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I’m not surprised, even though I prefer he stay. We need to free some cap space up somewhere. I still think it’s plausible he winds up with the Giants given he comes off the books next year and he knows Dabolls offense and can be a safety bal let for whoever plays QB for them this year.

Beast. Next season can’t get here fast enough.

Id be interested considering it would likely take very little to acquire him. I liked him coming out of college and Kirk has played a lot of slot for AZ, so thats contributed too in his lack of touches.

Yes. But depends on price, we got a lot of other holes and TE isn't one of them.

Well, you do realize there is a massive difference in rushing in a Daniel Jones led offense with the worst OL in football and running in a top 3 offense led by Josh Allen right? This is not an equal comparison. For example: Priest Holmes was a meh back for the Ravens, but he became other worldly the second he stepped onto the field as a Kansas City Chief. So no disrespect bud, but this isn't a good argument here just because it's not remotely close to equal situations for both running backs.

Fitz is an awesome dude, but I want no part of this. I don’t think he has much left in the tank.

I dont disagree to limit your risk exposure. I think Moss and a 5th...or if they have cap concerns, do Beasley and a 5th because then the contracts almost cancel each other out in terms of the cap hit.

A torn ACL isn't somethig guys commonly come back to 100% in their first year back. Often its not until the next season do they start to regain their full form again. I wouldn't write Barkley off yet.

I started a thread on this a month ago and proposed sending Moss and a pick so the pick wouldn't have to be as high. We have some players that I believe Giants could have interest in like Moss or Singletary, for obvious reasons where one of them can be looked on as a guy who can come over and compete to start in his place. Or even Cole Beasley, also on a one year deal so he is off the books next year but gives them a value piece to help Daniel Jones (or whoever starts this year) in Dabolls system that can be an underneath safety blanket and 3rd down ace who knows the system already. And if we trade Cole, then the salaries almost wash each other out too, so makes it easier to take on Barkleys salary this year. Or of course Beane could try and work a new deal ahead of the trade, a short term one thats good for Barkley to try and reset his market in a better situation and gives us a talent at a price we can afford as Josh's deal starts to kick in next year. I thought then, and still do now, that Barkely to the Bills is a realistic scenario.

Even further, he somehow managed to throw multiple picks in a half speed no contact Pro Bowl as his playoff encore in terms of recent bias. LMAO how anyone threw multiple picks in that fake game is beyond me.

Nothing wrong with wanting to get paid, its how he is going about getting that accomplished is the issue. Remember he wiped all references and photos of the Cardinals from his social media recently too before all this began. He is the one that decided to make his unhappiness public, and there was nothing to be unhappy with yet. They had not submitted a contract extension yet (that was just sent in week and a half ago) and they had not had any counters yet from the FO, even as of now. Yet, he preemptively decides to make this standoff public with his social media cleanse of everything Cardinals. Now he is further pressuring and negotiating on social media? Absolute worst thing he could have done IMHO.

Actually, the real reason why is because Kyler started all of this himself by scrubbing all references to the Cardinals from his social media out of nowhere long before that. Had he not done that, which immediately made everything he was about to do public, then no one would be clamoring for any info on Kyler, his status with the team etc. But because he did that, its been non stop speculation and people trying to get info on what's going on putting him and his agent under pressure to make an official statement of some sorts to clear up the unknown after those actions. And the Cardinals didn't immediately jump all over a response, they decide to begin negotiating further in the media through their statement to clarify what is going on. Which was a total mistake. Now the Cardinals went from weighing doing the extension this year to deciding if they are going to publicly cave to this Kanye West level diva tactics in the media setting a bad look and precedence for the team. The lack of patience and respect they have for the Cardinals given its only his 3rd year is astounding.

What there is nothing wrong with is him and his team desiring to get a long term contract done now. What there is something totally wrong with all of this is being an entitled diva and without warning scrubbing all references to the team you are under contract with still from your social media accounts causing distractions for the team and then publicly submitting a total LAMP letter to the public that gives off the douche level of something Antonio Brown would do demanding to be paid now. So yeah, nothing wrong with him wanting the contract now, but how he is going about trying to get it is absolutely stupid and another red flag. And I promise you it won’t sit well with a lot of people in his locker room. And this is after there is already a bunch of negative buzz of how poorly he handled the playoff loss as well. The QB position is the leader out on the field, the guy who gets more credit or blame each week than they usually deserve, and has the biggest spotlight on them. It’s one thing if a WR like AB takes his baggage to social media, it’s a whole other thing when the face and leader of your team decides to do all this in the public eye. Kyler and his team made a big mistake with this, and he is getting torched everywhere because of it.

Hahahaha I thought the same thing. I feel like Kyler and Mariah Carey have the same team behind the scenes. I wouldn’t be surprised if in Kylers contract demands he wants only red M&Ms in a bowl in his locker every morning.

All I’m gonna say is thank god we got Josh Allen. Can’t believe that they put this Diva statement out lmao.

We don’t have a desperate need. 5th in pressures, 10th in sacks. We aren’t desperate by any means. Would he be an upgrade, sure…just saying people who keep saying we are desperate are grossly over exaggerating the situation.

I see a lot of flags in the NFL in these highlights. He is nasty, but also a lot of this stuff is flag city. I want to know what his fundamentals look like more than see him be nasty while be flagged constantly.

Without question, the topic I was committed to and totally wrong about was thinking CJ Spiller could be a full time RB after he had over 2000+ total yards the year before. Wasn't so much a "hot take" though, I mean he did put up 2000+ yards with over 6 YPC, so it was more an entire offseason take lmao. Yeah nope.

Also a good way to put it too

Yeah, a probably a lot more times than you. In the meantime, lets agree to disagree because I can already see this isn't going anywhere productive.

Too bad thats not remotely what happened...I mean not even a tiny bit close...but you keep sticking to that over exaggerated version. If you are gonna call someone out, you better know the facts, otherwise maybe just don't say anything at all. I am very anti violence against women, so don't try and take my character there ok bud. Thanks.

Hunt is a heck of a lot more than a timeshare RB. This dude would be a legit potential top 5 RB as a starter. If we can get him here it would be huge. His off field stuff was way blown out of proportion too and he has been a model citizen since anyway. I am all for bringing Hunt here, in fact he would be my number 1 target if he was someone we could truly land. He is better than every RB on that list in your post, and exceptionally better than most of them.

I agree with most of this. My only note would be that I suspect Beane and McD might feel a little better about Edmunds play than a lot of the fan base does. I don't know if they like him enough to do what it takes to keep him or not, but Edmunds is better at his job than he gets credit for around here. A lot of what people don't like about Edmunds play is in how he is used a lot in our defense. Its one of the reasons I was hoping Frazier would get a HC job so we can see how another DC might be able to get our of Edmunds this next season.

Yeah, I already agreed its best to pay him now. I was talking if they don't agree to an extension and he becomes a free agent. I didn't compare his situation to Kirk, I compared the lack of money he made to Kirk. And the reason I mentioned that is the OP talked about a home town discount, which is quite plausible unless the gap for his open market value and what we can offer gets too big. All the more reason to try and work an extension this year, but of course Knox and his agent would have to be interested in that this offseason. Im confident Beane is gonna try and get it done this offseason for all the reasons we have all been mentioning

And on this, well said. Its exactly why Gronk will be the greatest TE in history in my book over say someone like Kelce. Gronk was an excellent blocker and true complete TE where Kelce is more that big slot guy.