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Well to be fair most teams lose more when their starter is out. And its not really fair to give Jimmy G all the win/loss credit on a team that wins around defense and the run game. Jimmy G has also only twice played in double digit games in his career too, never thrown for 4000 yards, and never surpassed 27 TDs. This year he had 3800 yards and just 20 TDs with 12 INTs. So he isn't out there lighting up the stat sheets and the Niners struggle when they need to rely on him when the run game isn't going. So the YPA as a stand alone stat is good, but its not like that tells the whole story.

Colts used that first round pick to trade for Wentz, so they dont have the ability to draft one. And yeah, that is part of the problem with Wentz, he seems mentally weak. He doesn't seem to do well mentally with competition, which for me is all the more reason to bring someone in to compete with him. Because if he cant handle that pressure, he sure is heck not going to handle the pressure of a big game like the dud he laid against the lowly Jags with the playoffs on the line where he had a total QBR of 4.4

My fiance loves the 49ers...so I have seen a lot of Niners games, was even at the game Sunday when they beat the Rams. Jimmy G, regardless of statistics, is not very good to me. He makes a lot of terrible throws and decisions. He is flat out soft too. Most Niner fans, including her, can't wait for the Jimmy G era to end, although they still feel he gives the team the better chance to win today as Lance is not ready. He lacks mobility, his arm isn't very strong, and he can be delusional with an utter lack of accountability when he doesn't play well. He also just seems to lack that drive to be great and isn't known to be a student of the game type guy.

I can answer that question...2 things are at play: People tend to take a short stretch of a persons career, over exaggerated it and try and believe thats the real them while ignoring the vast majority of their career data. His 2017 continues to be a thing of lore and over exaggeration. Its not as special as people seem to want to believe. Good season, yes...but wasn't that special. It was more about him being a 2nd year QB doing that then it being some unmatched season. In 13 games, he had 33 TD's putting him on pace for 40. He only had 7 INT's at that point, putting him on pace for about 10, BUT he had 9 more fumbles too, something he has been terrible at his whole career. He was also only completing 60.2% of his passes that year and only had 3296 yards passing, putting him on pace to barely reach 4000 yards. Based on his averages up to that point...his final season would have been about 4100 yards, 40 total TD's, 10 INT's, 15 Fumbles (4 or 5 lost), with a comp percentage of 60.2%. Not only would that NOT have even been contention the last 2 seasons for MVP, if Josh Allen had that same season it would have been labeled a down year and regression. It was literally one part of a season all the way back in 2017 and he is still living off that reputation despite his play not backing it up. Its not about what happened, its more about he was playing above his mean (compared to his career) for part of a season and that stretch being remembered as more than it really was. I mean, honestly this has happened many times before, and not just for QB's, players at various positions having great success for a stretch of a season, a playoff run, even a full season but never duplicating that again. Eagles alone have seen this...Foles had one crazy season as good or better than Wentz, went on to be the QB of the Rams and never was good again...except for one brief stretch again with the Eagles where he took over for Wentz and won them a SB where he out dueled a 500 yard Tom Brady in the SB...and then went right back to sucking again. Carr also had an MVP like season before getting hurt 2/3rds of the way, was never that good before and never that good again either. So for me, anytime anyone brings up that one stretch all the way back in 2017, I just kind of sigh because he has more time on the field both before and after that stretch suggesting that was more of an anomaly than than who he really is.

But did you see where Reich declined to commit to Wentz the day after the loss? I mean, if this is as strong and true as some suggest, he would have immediately squashed any possible speculation right then and there and gave Wentz a vote of confidence. That is telling to me, especially given Reichs history and bond with him. Reich to me is too good of a coach to blindly hitch his horse to one wagon no matter what. And its not only up to Reich either, the GM can still bring in competition regardless as well as they really have nothing behind Wentz anyway.

I get what you are saying, and honestly, that first round pick they spent is why I asked if Wentz would be the starter instead of would Wentz be on the team. But, at the same time, the first round pick is gone...to just default Wentz as the starter over it, regardless if its not working out, would be unnecessarily foolish with a roster as good as theirs. So for me, what they paid to get Wentz makes someone like Trubisky is an ideal candidate for them because he can won't cost a lot to bring in to at least challenge Wentz for the job (and I think MT would win that battle personally).

Someone woke up and chose violence today lol

I dont know, he didn't look good in DC this year in his brief time before getting hurt. With his age and stuff, I am not sure the market is going to be much for Fitz this year.

Yeah, if Colts sign MT, I think it will be more likely to compete with Wentz to start next year more so than just getting rid of Wentz all together.

I think the only way Mitch follows Daboll to Miami is if he has no other opportunities to start. And honestly, I think Mitch is going to get interest from several teams this offseason, so I don't think its likely he goes to Miami regardless if Daboll does or not.

All of those scenarios are certainly possible for Mitch, so yeah I can see any of that happening too. And honestly, what Colts spent on Wentz adds more reasons to why someone like Trubisky makes a lot of sense to come in and either start or compete to start with Wentz, because it would not cost a lot to do so and be of very little risk. I would think the only thing Indy cares about is winning at this point. The first rounder is already gone, nothing they can do about it. At this point, all that matters is that they get better, not just trying to force something (if its not working) because of what they previously spent to try it.

Statistically I would say that Trubisky wasn't as bad as some make him out to be while in Chicago. And the Bears, having made the playoffs twice with him, were certainly a lot worse without him. Keep in mind, his OL was terrible there and he had little to work with in terms of weapons around him. Add in how bad the coaching was, and even Trubisky has spoken out about just how little effort was put into developing him there compared to the kind of coaching he was already getting in Buffalo just as a backup. He is no lock to go to a better situation and be even better obviously, but there are legit reasons to see him as a guy that could really benefit from a change of scenery (from his former starting gig in Chicago). And honestly his career in Chicago was better than what Wentz was in Indy this year, again on a lesser team with inept coaching staff.

Yeah, I mean to be fair, Mitch is no lock to rebound if he was to go there, but he did get a lesser team with a terrible coaching staff and terrible FO to the playoffs twice. There is reason for optimism to put him into a better situation and see if he is ready to take a next step. And Mitch is still young but was in a poor environment to develop properly in Chicago. He has now spent a year with a very respected coaching staff that did wonders with a raw kid in Allen, so I think the potential is there, where as with Wentz, his best days seem to be behind him.

Welp, guess that seals this threads fate to be no more than 1 to 3 pages max hahaha. Threads are only active and long around here when they are full of nonsense and are off the rails. Hahaha

I could see Trubisky and Daboll pairing up somewhere. But the Broncos I think are going to first go after one of the potential big name guys that could be available like Rodgers, Wilson, or maybe Watson if his legal stuff gets cleared up like it seems like it could. I think Daboll is more likely to land in Miami though, assuming Daboll believes in Tua as a legit guy who could become a franchise QB. And if he does go to Miami, Trubisky likely doesn't follow for that reason.

Let me be clear from the start, I have no evidence of any Trubisky interest by the Colts, this is just something I am personally speculating on as I think it makes a lot of sense personally for both the Colts and Trubisky. Admittedly, I hope it does NOT happen, as I don't want to see the Colts get better lmao. Why it makes sense to me: Trubisky isn't going to draw a lot of interest from rebuilding teams IMO unless its on a cheap deal to hold a seat warm for a rookie because those teams are likely turning to the draft for a QB. There is also still Watson and of course possibly Rodgers that could be available too, not to mention the speculation that Wilson could be someone to keep an eye on. With the Colts run game, they don't need to try and pursue cap choking big ticket QB's like those guys. Someone like Trubisky, who was able to get the Bears into the playoffs twice despite little offensive talent around him, a bad OL, and a terrible Coach and front office could come into Indy and help right the ship immediately. And, it wouldn't likely need to be a big financial or cap risk either as the market for Trubisky isn't going to be expensive giving them flexibility to go in another direction quickly if its not working out. The case against Carson Wentz is pretty clear Eagles: 1. Gets hurt, Eagles go on a run with Foles and win the SB. 2. Eagles last year with Wentz…no playoffs. This year without him…in the playoffs. Colts: 1. Made playoffs without him last year. 2. This year with him (and an 1800 rusher and MVP candidate in Taylor)…miss playoffs. And in a must win game to make the playoffs, his QBR was a pitiful (and Nathan Peterman like) 4.4 lmao...yes 4.4 out of 100. Reich also apparently declined to commit to Wentz a day after the loss too. Which is telling given they had history before this season that led to him wanting Wentz there in the first place. So what do you guys think...created poll asking if you thought Wentz would be the starter next year or not, and what you think the chances Trubisky ends up there to either start or at least compete with Wentz to start.

Singletary. The last 4 games he’s averaged 19 carries, over 80 yards rushing and has 5 TDs. If they used him that way all year, his season total projection would be almost 1400 yards and 21 TDs. He averaged 4.6 YPC again this year too. He has been the engine keeping the offense going down the stretch in points of the games where the Passing game has been out of sync. Also, chewing time off the clock to keep guys we might face like Mahomes, Henry, Rodgers, Brady, in playoffs and super bowl is also going to help our efforts. 2nd choice: Davis. I think he’s going to have some chances to make some big plays for us.

23 pages huh? Welp, that gives me the hunch this is not worth the read and a lost cause. Usually the only reason a thread like this goes 23 pages is because it’s gone on off the rails. So even though I’m curious if there is any more info on what the OP posted, I’m gonna trust my instincts that there is likely no additional substance to be found here and move on to another thread. Looking at the most recent comments only seems to confirm that further lol

Its pretty good and the finale sets up a crazy season 5

Gaines drafts Tua over Hebert. Keeps job. Flores this season, with a QB whose hurt as often as he’s healthy, has a 7 game win streak and beats Belichick twice but gets fired. Dolphins are the new Jets.

Unrelated: But just finished season 4 of Cobra Kai this morning haha.

Ditto. Rams offense was figured out a while ago, and now it doesn’t matter who the QB is, it’s more of the same. I was at the Rams vs Niners game Sunday too and watched another collapse by a McVay led team. My fiancé is a big Niners fan, so we were there rooting for them and the game was epic. Part of her Xmas present, although I insisted I was still wearing Bills gear and watching the Bills game from time to time on my phone hahaha. Rams stadium is unreal though, so sick. I live like 7 miles from SoFi, but that was my first game there.

I would rather have McD over McVay anyway

If we get an opening on our defensive coaching staff this year he would be top of my list.

Wow didn’t see that coming, I think that was a mistake. Makes no sense