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Agree on the top 2. I think Chargers have a case for 2, but I am not sure their defensive signings are enough, that defense was bad on 3 levels last year. I think I have to get the Chargers here somewhere in the top 4. Couple of things, Cincinnati made the SB last year, but doesn't mean they are a top 6 team this year. I think they regress...that being said, they can still win their division and be at least the 4th seed, but this isnt a playoff positional list, this is best team list. And right now, I don't have them in the top 6. They had a lot..and I mean a lot...of success throwing 50/50 balls, prayer balls, etc. Guys made some insane plays at a high success rater for the risks of those plays. And thats just not sustainable way to consistently win in the NFL. So while, I fully acknowledge they could still win their division, I don't think they are one of the 6 best teams in the AFC right now personally. I think people are also writing the Chiefs off way too fast. Go back and check the stat lines last year on Hill...big game, then like 5-7 duds in a row of like 30 yards. This is a WR rich draft with an elite QB in KC. You can bet they will take at least one WR early, and when you have a guy like Mahomes, that WR may come in and make a big impact early. Miami over achieved under a great coach...I think they regress this year even after adding Hill. Oakland is better than people are giving them credit for right now and I think will surprise some people this year. They have a good defense and added Chandler Jones to it. Their offense is intriguing with addition of a big time guy like Adams too who already has played with Carr. Yes Carr is a big downgrade from Rodgers, but he still is a guy who can sling the ball and played clutch in close games. So I think they could be a tough out. All of these teams above belong in this range IMO, people can argue the order, but I cant put any of them higher except maybe Atlanta over Cleveland just given the probability Watson gets a big suspension. However, Cle with no Watson suspension is better than Indy imo. My ranking: BUF - Almost all of our main pieces back and some very good FA additions to areas we need to improve. Den - Tough to put them here before we see what Wilson can do there, but on paper it makes sense given the balance of defense and offense they have. LAC - Herbert takes yet another progressive step, which is enough to move them up to 3 even though the D has questions to whether it is improved enough. KC - Too early to right them off. Hill will be missed, but his production was very hit or miss, they can find a replacement for that potentially in this WR rich draft. OAK - Yes I realize I just put the whole AFCW from 2 -4, but its (on paper) maybe the best division ever, and quite frankly I think any of the 4 are capable of winning it. I think its unrealistic to say all 4 make the playoffs, but this isn't a playoff list, its best team list. And right now, I think these 4 are better than everyone in the AFC not named the Bills. TEN - They proved doubters wrong when they kept beating the best teams even after losing Henry. CIN - A lot of people will have them higher, but I don't feel their style of winning is sustainable long term and I think other teams have improved more than they will be next year. BALT - Assuming they are all healthy and stay that way, I think they work their way back to being one of the better AFC teams, but how good is still a question. They have some holes still and questions at RB as well, so hard to know who they are today. Potential to be a top 4 team or could miss the playoffs, hard team to figure out at this stage of the offseason. Honorable mentions for top 8: Cleveland would be in that top 8 if not for the expected Watson suspension. If he doesn't get suspended then I think Cleveland by default moves into the top 5 ranking. Indy is a curious one, not sure how much of an impact Ryan at this age makes there with mediocre receiving group compared to what he was used to in Atlanta most his career. But on paper now, I like the other teams a little bit better, but they are pretty close with those teams outside of the top 5 in terms of ranking them today. Miami I think is at best a 9 win team, and may be under .500 this year. I think they will feel the sting of losing their HC a lot personally who always had them over achieving most the time. I have a feeling they are more like a 7 or 8 win team, AFCE has a tough schedule this year. Teams like NE and PIT cant be in the top 8 right now, but they have sleeper potential. NE showed it last year, while not in our class of teams, they still found ways to win a lot more games than people expected, so hard to just flat out count them out even though they definitely don't belong in the top 8 ranking list right now. And Trubisky might just surprise a lot of people in Pit...I mean he cant be any worse than Ben was last year IMO, and likely better. If he Trubisky comes in and proves to be a good starter there, then that team can be dangerous again. Everyone else has no shot at being in the convo of being a good team this year IMHO.

Hahahaha 5 draft picks and $30m a year! Love it, gonna be one of those mega deals that likely hurts them long term more than it helps them.

I have also heard both McD and Beane talk about how early they knew Allen was their guy. From what I have heard from people I trust is that Allen was their #1 guy on their board overall. Meaning even if we had the #1 overall pick, it still would have been Allen. I bad Baler ahead of Allen, but Allen was my top choice for us once it was clear that Baker was going to likely go #1. If we missed on Allen I wanted to stay put and not trade up and then take Lamar. I hated Rosen, wanted nothing to do with him. Would have supported the pick still and trusted they knew more than me, but hated the idea of drafting Rosen, and despised even more the idea of trading up for him. He was an obvious high risk bust choice for me.

Diggs was a 5th, Davis a 4th. DK Metcalf was a 2nd, so was Cooper Kupp and Davante Adams. The list continues...AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel. Terry McLaurin, Tyler Locket, etc just to name some more that were all taken after round 1. In fact there are more guys in the top 10 and even top 20 WR's list in the NFL list that were taken after round 1 than guys taken in round 1. So I just dont understand this big want so many have of going WR in round 1. We also have an elite top 5 WR on the roster, and a good core behind him. At CB, we only have Dane right now. Tre is a question mark if he will be ready week 1 or not, and even once he is ready, there is no telling how long it takes him to get his form back, it can sometimes take a whole season of playing. So we are currently down both starters last year, with no one to help man the void. Dane gets promoted by default. We are facing a gauntlet of lethal offenses in the AFC now, we need to shore up our CB position in the worst way. Its so bad you can defend reaching for a guy in the first if you had to. We may bring someone in, but there really isn't anyone out there that is a lock to come in and play at even Levi's level last year. What we know is that Beane likes to stay true to his board and go BPA according to his board, which the very ranking has need built into it. He has also said that if there are 2 guys at 2 different positions they have similar grades on, they will factor in depth of each position in the draft on who they draft. Given this is a WR rich draft, I think its highly more probable we are going to take a CB in the first over all other positions, However, that is also dependent one being on the board graded high enough to select. I am confident Beane won't over reach either just for the sake of reaching. But there are a couple guys projected to be there that I am pretty confident Beane would have a high enough grade on to take. So I would prepare yourselves (those you want WR round 1) that its far more likely its going to be CB, and it almost certainly should be. Dont get me wrong, I would love Jameson if he is there at 25, but right now, CB is a massive hole on our team unless they find a way to address it before the draft.

Bengals lost to the Jets and made the SB. Get over it. It happens to even the best of them.

I think its pretty safe we are drafting CB in the first 2 rounds and probably round 1 unless there just isnt a guy they covet there. And its not out of the question we take 2 CB's in the first 4 rounds. Tre is unknown if he will be ready week 1 and we just have Dane now as another healthy CB.

Read this 👇👇👇👇👇 Bottom line it was pretty clear Harry realized early the Bills were not going to offer what he felt his value was. And everyone knows conversations are going on long before the start of FA. I mean why are we even still talking about this? Why are you so bent on trying to prove the poster false which you 100% categorically can not do? Just like we can’t 100% prove he told truth. What we can do is take it for what he presented it as…a rumor…and accept the fact it’s plausible it could have happened the way the OP presented given the only portion of the rumor that actually mattered was accurate of him not coming back. This need to still be on some crusade against the OP makes no sense. Especially given he presented it the right way if you’re gonna provide this sort of info/story to the board IMHO. Time to move on.

Lol, honesty this actually lends more credibility to the OP and strengthens his story, so not sure why you posted this as some sort or proof he made it up.

Your comparison is beyond ridiculous. Yes I think it’s more plausible his experience was true than not true. I’ve got way crazier true stories than this one that involved way bigger news and people. But people here tripping on meeting a below average starters friend in a local bar to where he plays…lmao. Next time just move along, no need to shred the OP and discouraging him from sharing. Because clearly no matter the outcome you were still calling him a liar, which is even funnier to me. Like what’s the point

I posted a thread about this right when it happened, but he seemed normal on Twitter at the time and had 3 stories up that 2 of them were Bills related at the time. Seemed maybe a rebrand with his new logo was in the works. Probably all that was so I took it down.

I think he could be an interesting add. Shouldn’t cost too much, if it were say a 5th I would be into it. Anything more than that I think I prefer the draft.

I know right! I can’t recall seeing another player where I thought this about either.

So you think it’s more plausible the OP just flat out made up that story? I mean that seems unlikely. Why it’s so hard to believe these things happen is just puzzling to me. And even if people don’t believe his encounter was real, they have no proof of that either and it’s really unnecessary to pile on the OP with no evidence of any kind to suggest they made it up. They could simply read then ignore the thread if that was the case.

Actually, I felt he fell flat when he had to be the number 1. He also had terrible feet while here, I remember yelling all the time Woods is on the ground again or Woods stumbled again and cost us a first down or score. Either stumbling after a catch, falling down in a route, etc. I mean I can’t think of another player I have ever said that about, but he always seemed like he was stumbling around too much. He played well in LA, but even though I was super excited when we drafted him, I felt he was a bit of a let down while here and wasn’t interested in paying him what the market was gonna give him. I enjoyed seeing him find his groove with rams, living in LA they are my second team (albeit a distant second). I would have welcomed him back for that trade too. Woods isnt a number 1 WR, but he grew into a very good #2 and should fit in well next to AJ. But I’d expect a drop off in production with Tannehill there and how often they run.

But it was already established it was just his made up guess/opinion. Why debate something that there is zero evidence of even happening? Thats like me saying: "Josh Allen was so pissed that JD went back to Washington that he probably stormed into Beanes office and demanded he make a big move immediately"...and then us debating our reaction to this made up scenario. Pointless and just creates a false narrative.

Whaley was better than he gets credit for here. His biggest down fall was being forced to try and find a franchise QB in a horrific draft for QBs. And never getting that right QB in place is a death nail in most GMs jobs. I think he could do well in Pitt. Unfortunately for him, it’s another weak QB class to be hunting for a QB. But at least they don’t have to take one this year if they wanna see what Mitch can do first. So if Whaley gets the gig, if I was him I would avoid this years draft to take a QB early and target next year if Mitch doesn’t take hold the job this season.

Doesnt this accurately answer the OP question and end this thread? What’s left to discuss?

Wait, what Fournette rumors?

So Houston got no players in this deal? Thought Houston said they wanted at least 1 or 2 players back in a trade too?

And yet when Cover1 or any other analysis say he had a good game, people still come on a dump on him too. Its all good, youre a good poster, so meaning no disrespect. But in my book, there is no denying his criticism is over the top and grossly exaggerated. He isn't perfect, he has things he can do better, but the role he plays here he does better than people give him credit for. And honestly, its not really debatable when you read the bad takes all over this board. Not lumping you into that description, just in general the over exaggeration that goes on around him.

I get what you are saying, but its also kind of an inaccurate thing to say. They dont heap praise on Milano they way they do Edmunds or really other players. In fact, Edmunds is probably he most often mentioned player in our defense by those people. In fact, the guys that most often get pointed out with praise are Edmunds, White, Hyde and Poyer. They don't have to mention Edmunds, yet they do on the regular.

Yet GM's, players, our own staff, defensive coordinators, opponents etc all say differently. So theres that too. He isnt perfect, but he isnt nearly as bad as you and others make him out to be.

Yet the people who know a lot more about football than all of us here are always praising just how well he does his "job". So theres that too. And not just his teammates, opponents, defensive coordinators, even our new signees. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find anyone who analyzes players professionally or plays the game professionally that will be anywhere near as negative about him as people here. If you listen to TSW, they call him a bust on the regular, and want him gone immediately. Its a joke the level of criticism he gets here. That doesn't mean he cant get better or hasn't missed plays. It means, the negativity here is more often than not way over the top and over exaggerated. And while there are people who understand his role and are still critical, many do not and you can tell by just reading the grossly over exaggerated hot takes and comments they spew out constantly. We are talking about a guy who gets beat up after wins where he played quite well...they still in threads bashing his play that game. Its totally fair to question what he is worth or what we should pay him, and if that fits into your future plans. But the level of hate he gets is beyond unreasonable.

It never made sense unless he wasn’t in their future plans. Which we still don’t know yet, but our GM, Coaches, players, and even the new players continue to praise him and refer to him as good to even one of the better LBs in the NFL. I keep saying it, what people hate most about Edmunds has more to do with how we use him more than anything. I don’t see us trading him unless we get a really good offer. We are making a big push for SB this year, they aren’t just gonna easily give away the captain of the D and create yet another hole.

As we have discussed before, I’ll provide the additional context here for those who aren’t familiar with what really happened in terms of that quote. Correct…Star never said that. A reporter said that years ago to convey the strength of Stars love and motivation for his family. People twisted this to be something it’s not. Same article praises his work ethic and his dedication to helping and fighting for his teammates. It’s a total farce that Star didn’t love football based on people inaccurately attributing a journalists comment to Star. Just like it was a total farce he never played here like people say when he didn’t miss a single game until week 1 this year, the only game he ever missed with us due to injury. He had COVID complications that led to a few more games missed this season.