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He is 21st in receiving yards and has the 5th most yards after the catch in the NFL...despite missing a game, playing limited in another game, and the Bills passing offense not really involved over 3 more halves of football in weeks 1-3.

I didn't say they were stars, I showed the opposite by showing just how substantially more effective Shakir was with his targets last year and how good he really is.

They shouldn't extend a guy who is 21st in the NFL in receiving yards despite missing a game, 5th in YAC, and 1st in catch %? A guy who when on the field the offense is clearly better? A guy who Josh clearly trusts the most? A guy who is one of the best WR's in the NFL with the ball in his hands?

That is because he didn't really get his chance to play until Dorsey was fired. He had 611 yards on just 45 targets. If he had just doubled his targets that would only still be 90 targets and it would have put him over 1200 yards. For reference both Davis and Kincaid had around 90 targets too last year each, neither got close to 1000 yards let alone 1200 yards.

Hahaha Chris Long with the opening up with the epic name Gaff on "Cook"

I see 5 of Worthy's family members are also members of this board 😂 😂

***** The word censored above is "s n a t c h" - Someone let Tom Brady he cant use that word apparently anymore either before he his next game before he references how someone went up to "s n a t c h" the ball and loose women all over America get offended 😂

Hes not wrong on how he holds the ball. It hasn't helped the Dolphins yet though. Dumb comment..Allen is gonna ***** this dudes soul on Sunday..like he always does to Miami -----weird, its censoring me from saying "s n a t c h this dudes soul" hahaha----- I better go add this to the Tom Brady under fire thread as another word you apparently cant say anymore either 😂

I think Shakir will probably land in the $16M to $18M range...if he has a big finish to the season and post season he might be able to get closer to or reach $20M, especially if he got to FA. I think both sides want it to happen and because of that he will sign for a little bit of a hometown discount.

All good But I do respectfully disagree with this. I think if you even just watch his season highlights so far this year and from last year you will see he is more capable and doing more than you are giving him credit for here. And if you listen to any current or former players/coaches/GM's talk about Shakir, they all gush about just how good he is too.

I get your comments on Gabe, but I think you would agree there is a massive difference here between him and Shakir. At no point was Gabe ever as good or as important on a week to week basis to this team and offense as Shakir has made himself. Shakir is better, and often a lot better, in just about every single comparable category to Gabe. Shakir has also been historically efficient and reliable now in 2 consecutive seasons in all his opportunities. The team also saw first hand just how much worse the offense is without him when he missed a game. I am not saying he is getting St. Brown money or anything of course, but I do think he will be a priority extension (assuming no serious injury or regression rest of season) and he will definitely get north of $15M this offseason and how much closer that number gets to $20M will come down to how the rest of the season plays out. Where as Beane seemed to know ahead of time they were not going to be giving Davis a 2nd contract. Bonus info: Shakir is on a team that runs the ball great and spreads the ball around the passing game. He also missed a game and was limited in another game. And week 2 we barely passed at all in a run game blow out and week 3 the offense again didn't really pass in the 2nd half in another blowout. Yet...Shakir still is 21st in the NFL in receiving yards and 5th in yards after the catch. Not to mention again leading the NFL in catch % too.

You think there is a good chance Shakir doesn't get extended? Really? I will say it right now, barring some serious injury or unforseen regression rest of the season, Shakir is going to get an extension this offseason. Beane, McD, Allen, and the entire team absolutely love this guy and he has been absolutely clutch for this team now carrying over from last year. And no doubt Shakir seems to love Buffalo and the team too, so I am confident they will reach a fair deal that is good for him and the team and he will be a priority extension. Cook...well I entered the season thinking it was unlikely he would get a 2nd contract here just because he will either not play well enough to get one, or will play well and make his price tag too high to sign him back. I said it on draft night, Davis was one of my favorite picks of the draft (he was my RB3 in the draft) and felt he very well could be Cooks successor. Just felt like Cook was in a no win situation...he either doesn't play well enough to get a 2nd contract, or plays too good to where its too expensive to keep him, especially if Davis shows he is up for the task (which he has). So I do still think and agree Cook is probably gonna leave in FA as I can't see us spending big on a RB, especially with Davis showing he is legit and capable of leading the backfield. And while I still think that is the more likely outcome, it also would not surprise me if Beane did find a way to keep Cook, its just not what I am expecting at this point from a cap perspective.

Huh? How is this a question, obviously we want the Jets to win.

My wife and I keep talking about our 2 1/2 week olds chubby arms as these "chubby little croissants" because this one part of his arm when you take a picture looks like little croissants. So is the family of the person who invented croissants or bakers around the world going to get mad at me and try and cancel me for fat shaming croissants? This need to over analyze a words use based on some obscure origin story almost nobody knows its a wild fad these days. As a society we have migrated out of the information era and moved into an era of disinformation, outrage, and cancel culture.

I mean I get why Edwards wants to be traded, he came here thinking he was in line to play and he hasn't yet. Should we...well I am still not sold he isn't better than Hamlin, and with all the injuries we seem to get every year, I think his value is better on the roster than what Beane would get in trade. Could he get traded still, sure, but I am leaning he probably doesn't as not sure he brings back enough value to make us thinner at a key part of McD's defense. As far as Elam goes, as I see some want to bring him up...Benford has been one of the best CB's in the league this year and Rasul is as well. Elam not starting has a lot less to do with "Elam" than it does with the fact the guys ahead of him are playing at a very high level. At the same time, we don't have a lot behind Benford and Rasul, and Elam has shown he can step in and make some plays. While an Elam trade is certainly possible, I am personally not sure they would trade him in a season where we have a legit SB shot right now, maybe the best one we have had in the Allen era TBH.

Is this a real question? Prime talented DE vs an end of his career sack specialist who got hurt and suspended? Not sure how this can even be asked. Now maybe we win a SB with Von, but it won't be because Von is better signing than Mario, it will be because this team has Josh Allen, a real GM, and a legit coaching staff where Mario played with trash can QB's, trash can coaches, trash can front office, and was part of a middling team that never sucked enough to get great draft picks and was never good enough to make a playoff. Even then though, it won't make Von better signing, it will be because Von had Josh Allen on the other side, was on a better overall roster, with better coaching and a legit front office.

Damn this sucks...RIP John, hope the Bills win one for you this year! @SDS that was a very loving and great write up for John, he would have loved that.

Edit your poll settings to allow us to see who voted for what so we can publicly shame the 2 that voted yes 😂

Considering (in our country) the social media Karens are all total spazzes, I can see why they got offended 😂 FWIW Brady was complimenting Allen when he made the reference.

Ha, well I don't disagree with your first post stating he arrived last year, and I certainly am not the only one who believed in Shakir, but most people didn't see it that way. A lot of people felt like he wasn't going to be able to replicate what he was doing without Diggs drawing double teams. There were lots of people all over this board including in this thread, other WR offseason threads, my thread in season about him last year, etc that were either throwing shade at him, doubting him, or limiting his ceiling as more of a role player than anything else. Some common push back items were that they felt he wouldn't be able to get open enough with his short arms, that his efficiency would fall way off with a bigger sample size, etc. Most saw him more as a complimentary piece that would likely struggle without a bonafide WR1 on the field. But this year he has proved all that wrong and really arrived, not as a complimentary role player, but as a goto player who makes plays every time he is called upon. He has shown he has elite hands, elite YAC ability, runs as tough as any WR in the league too. He also blocks well, does all the dirty work, and is completely unselfish. So he still took it up another notch this year and became a bonafide star IMHO

Ok, I came to write something sarcastic and funny...but stopped here. Wasn't going to be better than this one. Kudos this was primo 👏 🫡 Bahaha that is premium mod work sir, thank you as this thread is hilarious

Midseason check in and an obligatory shout out to Shakir coming off another excellent game Now back on a 1000+ yard pace again. After setting the NFL record for most targets in a row with a completion already earlier this year (29) he has now caught 50 of his last 52 targets which is just insane efficiency. Despite missing a game, Shakir ranks are: Yards - 21st - 421 yds YAC Yards - 5th - 300 yds Some other ranks: YAC per Rec - 7th - 6.8 yds Catch % - 1st - 94.4% Now factor in the first 3 weeks too: Week 1 - Allen only had 2 pass attempts up until the final 2 min of the first half and finished with 18 completions to 9 different guys. Week 2 - Was the Cook show and offense took a vacation second half with Allen only passing for 140 yards in a blow out win. Week 3 - Josh completes passes to 10 different receivers in another blow out win where offense takes the 2nd half off. So he has missed one game, was limited in another, and the context of the first 3 weeks limited everyones volume opportunities in the offense. And he still has been this good. LFG! He has become one of my absolute favorite players to watch play

Yeah, and its unfortunate for Diggs, never want to see someone go down with this kind of injury. I was also really looking forward to sending him and Houston home in the playoffs too. I got nothing against him, but it would have been fun to see us end his season in his "grass is greener" season with Houston.

Hahahahaha touche´ and I concede you did

I mean they had to do something, their receivers couldn't catch a cold against the Browns. This is a great midseason pickup for them. Instantly their best WR IMHO, so don't love this for us, but for the Ravens this was a great move. I was actually shocked KC didn't go after him instead of Hopkins personally. Also good for my fantasy teams lol