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Final update before the official schedule release. My contact at the TV Network in Detroit asked his boss if it was still Bills @ Lions on thanksgiving and they said as far as they know, they have not been told otherwise and even said it was said to him (his boss) again last Friday. My friend who gave me the Rams season opener tip said she still hasn’t spoken to their original source again, but another well connected source ar SoFi said told them today they believe it’s Bills at Rams week one season opener too as that was what they heard around the building at SoFi. So despite these Ravens thanksgiving rumors, I’m sticking with Bills @ Rams to open the season and Bills @ Detroit at noon for thanksgiving as I originally posted until I hear otherwise on the release. GoBills!!!!!

I was at that game. It wasn’t bad luck, it was a bad arm. He just didn’t have the arm strength and it’s a major limitation. I would actually take EJ over Peterman. That ain’t saying much though.

No disrespect, literally has no relevance of any kind to Boogie or his potential.

I think people put way too much into "draft slot" personally. He was graded as a late first to second round pick heading into the draft. I think the fundamental flaw in your post here is you said his draft slot doesn't indicate "elite talent" either. I think if you said he wasn't an elite prospect, as in top 10 or 15 guy it would be more accurate where those guys are seen as a higher success probability. But there are plenty of guys who go outside the top 15, outside the first round, even mid rounds who have elite talent potential, but there are just some other things that cause them to slide a bit. Sometimes, its because they have a low floor, or have some holes that need coached up. But, I wouldn't say a players drat slot indicates wether or not he has elite talent potential. Case in point...nothing about Brady coming out of college (especially coming off what I believe is still considered the worst combine performance for a QB in terms of athletic traits in history) was indicated he had elite ability, yet hes widely considered the GOAT now. Not saying by any means Boogie has that kind of potential, just saying I think its a false conclusion to base a players talent potential based on draft slot. Another example...Shakir this year...getting him in the 5th round, I do think he has elite talent potential where he could develop into one of the best slot WRs in football. So much about his tape reminds me of Kupp in how he uses his hands, controls his body, runs his routes etc. And he has some of Deebo or AJ Brown in him after the catch too where he runs with strength and agility. Doesn't mean he will, but I do think he has elite talent potential despite a 2nd/3rd round grade heading into draft and an actual 5th round draft selection.

Good point about the run issues, that very well might have been a big factor

Yeah it was weird how he just kind of lost snaps even after showing some real promise early, and I kept wondering if that had something to do with Groot starting on the opposite side. Like they wanted to get some vet presence more on the field with Groot. Then again, maybe he was losing ground in practice. I dont know, but he seemed like he was headed towards a heft snap count, but just didnt happen as the season progressed.

I really like Boogie and his potential. I felt like he flashed some real potential last year despite limited reps. What is going to be interesting to me this camp is the battle for snaps between AJE and Boogie. Last camp, AJE was the talk of camp, but we still had Addison and Hughes, plus a first round pick in Groot who actually took over as a starter week 1. So it left AJE where he had been since getting here, in a backup rotation. Now with Mario and Hughes gone, I am really excited to see how our young guys play this camp in Groot, AJE, and Boogie. One thing I want to point out about AJE is that its too early to write him off like some around here have been. Colts wrote off Hughes, and that was a terrible mistake. So, I am for one excited to see this battle of the two guys probably getting over looked the most by fans in AJE and Boogie. I feel like one, or maybe even both, could surprise this year if they can prove they deserve more snaps.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but keep in mind I got that tip like 3 or 4 weeks ago too. Not out of the question more changes came up since then. But I mean it came directly out the TV Network in Detroit from the sports marketing department. So given his boss is the one who informed their team there, I would say it was at least at that time what was scheduled. I did check in with him on Monday and he had not heard anything new since then, meaning nothing about the Lions thanksgiving game had been brought up again since that day. So, he couldn't say if it changed or if its still Bills at noon.

Yeah I think your exercise you did was fun, so wasn't trying to be rude towards your thread when I said it wasn't that close. I was more pointing out just how off base the forum was given its the forum here who submitted the votes and built the list. What I think your thread better showcased is that TSW does not know remotely close to what these front office professionals know when it comes to evaluating and ranking players. While that seems like common sense knowledge, you wouldn't know it when you see the amount of melt downs people have on here about certain players before, during, and after the draft. Based on who should go where, who we took vs who they thought we would take, what we used in the trade up, etc etc. And every team can vary dramatically from the next because its not just about grading a player, its about how that player would grade out in their specific system and plans. Also, it comes down to what traits they covet over others. Some teams fall in love with athletic gift, others covet fundamentals and technique, etc etc. All the internet, sports talking heads, media mock drafts, etc are mostly worthless and inaccurate outside the early picks. Their sole value really is to help fans get more familiar with what players are out there, not necessarily where they will go or when.

No offense, but the guy they chose didn’t even make the list of your top 14 choices. And 4 guys you had between 3 and 9 were not the pick even though they were on the board. So not sure I would say this was “pretty close”.

I’m not putting much stock in this, this guy doesn’t have any credibility and no one else picked up this leak. All the other leaks were picked up by credible sources.

Where did you see the Bills had 4 CBs with first round grades? Got a link?

If the NFL wanted to start the hype train early for the first game they would just announce it not leak it. This is off the table now. Rams play broncos on Xmas.

Actually, I think the wide spread hate for him has significantly reduced since leaving NE. He’s become much more likable by being funny and entertaining. Think this will be a good move for Fox. May not be very popular amongst AFC East fan bases, but I think he is far less hated by the rest of the fans than he was while in NE.

Certainly possible there could be changes. That VP of broadcasting for the NFL network during that 30 min interview said as much. Quite interesting interview actually, and believe there is a link to it earlier in this thread. Said the new tech allows their systems to run new schedules nightly and see how they like them. And that in previous years schedule changes were easier to do towards the later parts of the season, but now more recently with the advancement in technology can make changes at any week just as easily. Said changes could continue to happen all the way up to just before the schedule announcement. The one one caveat though was that he talked about the increased difficulty this year with so many live events coming back after COVID, so it’s not as easy this particular year to move things around freely as these stadiums, especially the expensive newer ones built with a lot of public funds, are booking a ton of events to offset lost revenue as much as possible when events weren’t happening and also during COVID where ticket sales were lost.

Schedule release week update: So since the week is upon us, I reached out to both the people who provided the rumor/tip to me originally to see if anything new had passed their ears or eyes. And neither of them have heard nothing new up to this point. My friend at the TV Network in Detroit said it has not come up again since they were told by their boss that he was told the Bills are going to Detroit for the thanksgiving game. My friend tied into the higher ups at SoFi said they have not spoken to them since they told them about Rams week 1 opponent at home being the Bills, so nothing new to report there either. Once again, I fully trust my 2 friends with 100% confidence that they were told these 2 things, but it again does NOT mean the information that was shared with them was correct either and this still remains just a rumor and tip at this point. So will be interesting to see how it plays out come Thursday.

Yeah, Baker isnt as bad as people are making him out to be, completely over looking what he was playing through last year.

I don't this logic works...I mean no 2 drafts are the same. We can't control what DE's are available when we pick or what the quality of the draft is at DE overall. More importantly is the value we got with those picks when we made them: AJE was a projected first rounder, and many felt he was the 2nd best DE in the draft behind Chase Young...So getting him in the 2nd was great value there and easily the BPA on many boards at that point. Rousseau seemed like he was headed for a top 15 maybe top 10 pick or better after his 2019 season. He only fell to us on the fact he sat out 2020 and others moved up the ladder in the first after they had good 2020 seasons. So getting Rousseau where we did was once again good value based on his last played season. Basham was being projected as possible late first rounder or 2nd rounder by most. So we even got some value there when we picked him too. So overall, I would say we got great value in the picks when we made the picks, and can't fault Beane for taking them where he got them. And we had aging DE's at both starting spots, so we needed to add young prospects there as well.

NFLs Instagram released some matchup ideas for the opening game today and asking what the people want to see. Bills vs Chiefs and Bills vs Rams were first 2 choices. However, I’m pretty sure the opening game is always the reigning SB champs though, so some of these don’t even seem eligible for the Thursday night game. There were a few other choices too like Rams playing either Raiders, Niners, or Chiefs at home and also the Bucs vs Saints. So I wonder if responses to this would have any sway on a change or not (I bet Bills @ Chiefs might be too choice). Like would they maybe make a last minute switch based on comments to this post for the Bills to instead play at KC and do it as a prime time game Sunday or Monday week 1 instead and then have like the Niners go to LA Thursday night? One caveat here that is interesting though, is there was an unrelated leak a couple times suggesting the opening game at LA on Thursday was down to Bills or Cowboys. And in the NFLs post today the Cowboys were not included. Does that suggest it’s Bills now for sure and this post is nothing more than a marketing teaser to get people excited about the schedule release? Seems hard to imagine they would make any big schedule changes this close to the release, but you never know. https://www.instagram.com/p/CdN5Ng9JynM/?igshid=NjY2NjE5MzQ=

Saw this yesterday and thought it was pretty funny. Honestly, the Bucs version of Brady is a lot more entertaining and funny and he’s admittedly had me laughing a few times now.

Actually, I would say Devin was actually substantially better. In the 7 games Devin got 13-22 carries, he scored 7 TDs and stats during those 7 games projected over a full season would be 1400 yards rushing and 17 TDs. And this was with an OC who was allergic to running the ball in the other 10 games, in a bad run blocking scheme, behind an OL that struggled with run blocking a large chunk of the season. Now that being said, I do think Barkley could really go off here in Buffalo. Last year is not a fair year to judge Barkley on coming off his injury that takes a lot players a full season of playing before they really get back to form. And he was also stuck on a bad offense, with a bad OL and bad QB. But...I don't think we need to spend the money, we have Devin and Cook as a 1-2 punch now, and Devin did quite well when he was actually given meaningful carries. And with Kromer, Dorsey, and the addition of Saffold, the line run game likely gets a boost this year too. Thought it could happen early in offseason when I thought Giants might have some interest in maybe Cole Beasley (which given he is still unsigned, seems like they don't), but once he was cut I thought the chance of a Barkley trade pretty much dried up completely.

No offense, but it’s time to let it go. You are openly admitting here that you are more interested in trying to some how prove you were right about Hall over anything else. And what’s even to prove? He was the highest graded RB in the draft by just about everyone, so it won’t make you some guru if Hall has a good career in the first place. It means you had the same opinion of just about every single draft analyst no and mock drafter in the country. It also doesn’t mean the Bills even made a mistake taking Elam over him if both have good careers. So no disrespect, who really gives a 💩about some Jets player. It’s a Bills board, I don’t need to follow his career on a Bills board. I’ll save that for my fantasy football draft prep. We didn’t take him, let it go. We probably would have in the second, but he didn’t make it there and we took Cook who is the RB we all should be following here on this board who is also an exciting prospect who could be awesome in this offense. 2-3 years from now is Elam isn’t living up to his draft status and Hall is killing it, you can start a “I told you so” thread. But keeping this thread alive moving forward is just silly.

To be fair, Levi Wallace took blame on behalf of the players and himself of losing focus on the field a bit coming off that high of the would even go ahead TD. Almost impossible to put that on McD. Coaching only takes you so far, players human real time emotions are not in his control. Additionally, what McD called on the kickoff was not executed and was a failure of his ST coach, who has since stepped down to make a lateral move to a lesser team as a result. I get the whole buck stops at the top philosophy, but there is only so much a coach can do before the execution falls on the hands of the players and coaches. For me, I hold the ST coach and then the players on the field much more accountable for what happened over that kickoff and those 13 seconds.

While I do agree he can be impactful more this year than even before potentially, I think this gets said too much above and that it’s not entirely accurate. Not only is Edmunds 5th in the NFL in tackles since entering the league, but Edmunds is also 5th in the league at tackles for loss since entering the league. I would consider TFL a pretty impactful play. IMHO because Edmunds doesn’t get “sacks” he gets this label that he doesn’t make important plays enough. But he also plays off the ball a lot almost like a 3rd safety. So I still say I think what people are most disappointed in with Edmunds really is more about how he is used than his production. Because he has the stats showing he makes a lot of plays.

Or…we don’t want to pay him and drafted 2 CBs already