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ST stats don't at all tell the story on contributions. The coaches have continuously praised Kumerows ST contributions where each player has a specific role on every kick. Containing your lane and forcing the returner into the coverage to force a tackle is just as important, if not more important than the player who actually gets credited with the tackle most the time. The vast majority of ST tackles are a direct result of not giving a pathway for the runner to find a lane. Kumerow without question has a leg up on Hodgins from a ST perspective. So if it came down to Kumerow or Hodgins, it wont matter if they feel Hodgins offers more as a WR that will never see the field, it will absolutely come down to whether or not they believe Hodgins can contribute on ST and if they have someone who can fill Kumerows role. Not to mention, Kumerow doesn't have the same injury concerns Hodgins has. To show just how meaningless these lower bench WR's are in terms of offensive contributions...As essentially the 5th WR on the depth chart the last 2 years, everyones favorite McKenzie has averaged just 25 receptions for 240 yards a SEASON as a backup slot WR, with blazing speed, and playing in the number 1 offense in the AFC the last 2 years. Last year, outside the NE game, McKenzie had just 9 rec and 53 yards total in the other 16 games of the year. Nobody else behind him had even 100 yards on the season. This year, we likely have Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, Shakir, Crowder making up the top 5 WR's, of which someone is barely going to have any production. The 6th and 7th WRs (if we keep 7) wont likely see the field as a receiver much at all. Not to mention we have Cook which will likely increase the total targets to RB's this year, plus Knox and Howard playing a lot of 2 TE sets. So whoever the 6th and 7th WR's are (if we even keep 7) will definitely be guys who they feel can be good and reliable ST players too. There is a reason why they tell these guys deeper down the bench across the roster that if you want to make this team you do it on ST.

This is gonna be tough, nothing against him, but this wont be an easy roster to make. Obviously, Diggs and Davis are going no where, and neither is Shakir given there is 0% chance they could successfully stash him on the PS, not to mention, he has been having an outstanding camp too. McKenzie as well, he isn't likely going anywhere at this point unless Beane decides he needs to make a trade to make room for someone, then McKenzie might be the only guy who would have any trade value (as they are not trading Davis, Diggs, or Shakir). But other than that, its safe to pencil these 4 in. Then you probably still have Crowder and potentially a KR specialist. Recently McKenzie and even Shakir have taken snaps as the primary returner, so if one of them locks down the job as a primary returner, then that makes the path easier for Hodgins to make the roster. But we already know they were not happy with McKenzie last year as a returner, and while Shakir did some in college, it wasn't what he was known for. So if we keep those 4 above, plus Crowder and a KR guy, that would mean we would have to keep 7 WRs for Hodgins to have a chance to make the team. And that 7th spot will likely also have to be someone who can prove they can be a reliable contributor on ST too. So not only is Hodgins competing as a WR against guys like Tavon, Stevenson, Kumerow, Pau'u, etc...he also competing to show he can be good on ST, something Kumerow for example has already proven he can be. Ive always liked Hodgins potential, so be cool to see him keep growing and make the team. But assuming there are no injuries or surprise cuts/trades at WR, then he likely needs to see us keep 7 to a real chance to make this team, and at the same time prove he can be relied upon on ST.

But you kind of are comparing them, I mean you are saying Hunt has no right to question Clevelands pursuit, trade, and paying of Watson because he once got signed by Cleveland after he had an incident disrupt his career. Which I can see how on the surface that makes sense, but the two situations are totally different and not really comparable or even similar. Before he got to Cleveland...Hunt had already lost his job, lost his income, did all the off field work including anger and alcohol counseling, apologized and was remorseful, took responsibility etc before he got a chance with Cleveland again where he signed cheap where he has been a model citizen ever since. And the only reason he did was because the GM in KC that drafted him was now the GM in Cleveland and knew him well enough to trust giving him a second chance. They already had Chubb too, so they didn't need to sign him. He was given a second chance because he did the work to earn it off the field. Watson has done none of that. Watson has never cleared anything, never truly taken responsibility, and his issues were not just one single bad mistake. He habitually sexually preyed on 24 women that we know of, and has since paid off 23 of them so he could get traded and get a massive new contract. He hasn't even lost money, he got paid to sit by Houston (not cut like Hunt) and then got a fully guaranteed quarter of a billion dollars from Cleveland. Its all good bud, we can agree to disagree on this, not a big deal by any means. But lets be honest...Watson got treated different because he is a top 5 talent at the most important position in probably all of team sports. Hunt had to earn his second chance, Watson not only didn't have to earn it, he still hasn't even cleared all his cases and still never taken responsibility for anything, just out there cutting checks to women to make them go away.

While I can see either Dallas or Eagles winning it, heck could even see Washington win it if Wentz can just be decent. But ultimately I went with Eagles. Dallas chokes all the time, and Wentz is not someone I believe in. So Eagles is my pick

Bahahahahaha thats some BOSS level s**t right there Diggs... 👏👏👏 Kudos for showing the classless people there are consequences to just blatantly throwing stuff at our players, especially ones who have been over the top generous in fan interactions and signings their whole time in Buffalo like Allen and Diggs.

You missed the part where he said "not anywhere near expected"...on the same day where all the other buzz was people gushing about Allen carving everyone up. Just saying, Thad is always less positive than everyone else. Its almost like it pains him to give praise

In fairness, the two situations are not even remotely comparable in terms of severity of the incident, consequences each faced, or even the morality of the mistakes. Hunt lost his job, immediately cut from the Chiefs. Same Chiefs team that had no problem drafting Tyreek after he beat up his pregnant girlfriend and would later beat on that kid too and still remained with the team and highly paid. Watson kept his job and his pay check while Houston waited out being able to trade him for a bounty. Hunt had to find a new job as a FA and find a team willing to give him a second chance Browns won a bidding war amongst multiple teams and traded a bounty to get Watson despite 24 women coming forward for sexual misconduct. Hunt played for the min in Cleveland and had to earn his way back to decent contract Browns handed a quarter of a billion dollars, all fully guaranteed for the first time in history, to a habitual sexual predator who didn't defeat the allegations and just literally paid women off to avoid further damages to his career. For me, their incidents on a "severity scale" are not remotely comparable. Both are 100% unacceptable, but Hunt's situation had more to do with him putting himself in a bad situation and then reacting very poorly to it. Lets not forget in regards to Hunt, the woman first refused to leave the hotel room and was causing problems with everyone in the room, then refused to leave the hallway, and then shouted racial slurs to escalate the incident and provoke the poor response from Hunt. DOES NOT excuse Hunts choices from that point on, but there is a BIG difference in being provoked into making a bad decision and Watson's premeditated decision to habitually sexually prey on 24 women we know of. Furthermore, Hunt has owned up to his mistake, paid the price for it, apologized for it, showed remorse, and been a model citizen both before it (as far as we know) and after it. All evidence indicates it was an isolated incident and mistake he grew from. He has earned his way back to this point on and off the field. Meanwhile Watson has not done the same and instead just paying women off while saying he is innocent to avoid risking further damage to his career. So for me, its not fair to compare to the two people as men, their morals, or their handling of their mistakes.

I would too, that team is a complete mess at all times. Not to mention handing a serial sex offender a quarter of a billion dollars after trading away a bounty to get him as well. So I don’t blame anyone for wanting out that dumpster fire

So everyone else gushing about Allen and the offense today and Thad still not impressed and not to his expectations still. Has anyone ever seen Thad Brown and Nick Wright in the same place at the same time? 🤔

I hear where you are coming from, but what you missed is that I was including the whole story. There was a lot that happened before the hallway, and that’s what is everyone is leaving out. People here keep discussing only a portion of what happened, which was just the physical part and not what happened prior to that and what happened after the hallway. So I would counter actually everyone else is not discussing the whole story and only focused on just where the physical altercation occurred. Again, not excusing his mistake, he made a bad decision after finding himself in a poor situation. But my main point was that mistake has been punished, he’s served that punishment, he lost his job and a lot of earning potential, he apologized and was remorseful, and been a model citizen since. So nothing about this incident suggests it’s a true definition of his character, and seems more like an isolated regretful mistake he learned from. And just so it’s clear, I’m hugely against men ever touching a woman unless someone’s life or safety is in direct danger. But at the same time, women don’t get to just not accept any responsibility for their actions either. And there is a lot of context here that’s being over looked in what caused the poor reaction from Hunt. And while that does NOT excuse or validate his poor choices, it does provide context that is necessary when trying to see if this is a pattern of who he really is or an isolated incident. And everything that happened, his history, and track record since all point to this being an isolated bad decision he’s grown from and not a pattern of this kind behavior.

All good, we don’t have to agree on everything I think he has continued to be humble and worked on himself. And at some point he has the same rights to do what’s best for him too from a business point of view. RB life spans are not that long, so he shouldn’t be frowned upon for trying to do what’s best for his career at this point. He’s already done everything right since the incident. And quite honestly if I was him, I would be furious that Watson was on the team, traded a bounty to get him, only got 6 game suspension, and was handed a quarter of a billion dollars despite a massive pattern of sexual misconduct that has already reached 24 women…23 of which he paid money to already. For all we know, his contract and trade demands could be for more reasons than just “more money”. He may just want out of Cleveland after what’s transpired this past year, and I wouldn’t blame him or anyone for that matter.

I don’t disagree it was out of line and mistake. But end of the day, she was the one refusing to leave, she was the one instigating from the start, and she was the one who escalated the situation. So I don’t think this is a fair representation of his character. He was younger, in a bad situation, and reacted poorly. All signs point to he learned from his mistake and has no prior history of this either. Does not excuse him by any means, but he’s already paid for this incident and has not been a second time offender. All reports on him in college, in KC prior to this, and in Cleveland since are that he’s been trouble free. What’s the point of owning up to your mistakes and changing your behavior if people are just not gonna let it go? And in terms of NFL incidents, this was pretty mild. And sorry, the physicality on this is nothing compared to other players in the NFL incidents, including his former teammate Tyreek Hill who has practically had zero consequence for his actions that included beating the hell out of his pregnant girlfriend in college and then later violence against that very kid.

This isn’t just a response to you, but to everyone who clearly don’t have their facts straight and have a false narrative of what happened. I recommend getting caught back up on the case, cuz you and others have a skewed view of what went down. 1. Hey had been trying to get her to leave, but she refused to leave their hotel room and was causing problems with everyone in the room prior to the hallway incident, including the other women there. Then refused to leave in the hallway too. 2. She called them the N word. 3. She initiated the physical altercation and struck one of his entourage first. 4. While what he did was still out of line, Hunt was being provoked and harassed the entire time by a woman looking to instigate something. She continuously tried to escalate the situation when they were all telling her to leave. 5. He didn’t hit her, he basically gave her a pretty meaningless kick in the butt once she was on the ground. I say meaningless in terms of level of physical damage or harm. I mean on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being Ray Rice, the “kick” was like a 1 at most in terms of physical harm. Hunt made a mistake and paid his dues for putting himself in that bad position and has had a squeaky clean record before that and ever since. He got himself into a bad position and made a poor judgement call and he cost himself millions in the process as he certainly would have made more thus far in his career if not for the incident. But it’s totally unnecessary to keep dragging him over the coals for it. And definitely even less necessary to over exaggerate what really happened and try and paint a different picture contrary to the facts to make him into a monster, which all evidence about him as a person outside this incident suggests this was an outlier and not regular behavior.

No one is going to refer to Davis as just "solid" anymore once this season begins. He might even lead the Bills in receiving this year

Shakir was one of my favorite draft picks, I couldn't believe he was still there in the 5th. I thought he was 2nd round to top of the 3rd round heading into the draft. Everything about his game reminds me of Kupp, which isn't a coincidence either as he patterns his game after Kupp. Not saying he will walk in and be the next Kupp, but he has that kind of potential and I think he will be here a long time and a fan favorite.

Seriously...What the hell is the point to bringing up the old tweets? Why is there a 4 page thread mostly about something that was so long ago when he was a dumb high school student thats already been explained, owned up to, apologized for, and forgiven? Like nobody cares, leave it alone. People hold on to crap way too much in this country. Thought this was going to be a good thread on all the great things Josh has done, but its been hijacked by this nonsense. Unbelievable its even being discussed. Not even worth coming back to this thread.

Breaking News: Beane is really good at his job...and has always been really good at his job since his first season here. No chance to beat 2018, just on the elite QB factor alone. But, I am supremely confident we will get a lot of contributions this year from Elam, Cook, and Araiza this year. Shakir is the future at slot for us, and I expect him to make some plays this year and come in next year as the starter at slot poised for a heavy workload. If just 3 of those 4 pan out, this draft will be a home run. And several of others as the OP have been standing out and making plays. I wont get too excited until we start seeing them in live game action, but the class as a whole is looking strong thus far which just adds to the excitement.

I mean thats a pretty exaggerated take. I dont get all the over the top negative stuff in regards to Singletary around here. I mean he has an excellent YPC, and excelled when we finally ran the ball last year. His stats when he got at least 12 carries or more (mostly over the back part of the season and playoffs) would project out over a 17 game regular season to be 1400 yards and 17 TD's. Im not saying he is elite or cant be upgraded from, but to say Cook (whose never played a single NFL snap) is worlds more talented at this stage is pretty extreme. Im as excited about Cook as anyone, and I think there are things they each do that compliment each other. Not to mention, there's been nothing but high praise for Singletary all camp long and him looking even better than last year. I dont know if he gets resigned or not, but he will certainly be highly involved in our run game this year still.

I was referring to the AFC, where we were the top scoring offense 2 years in a row. Its the AFC playoffs we have not made it out of yet to reach a SB. So no, I didnt make that stat up, its fact. And there was no comparably weak unit on the defense? WOW...did you even watch last season? Or did you just watch the games where we played bad teams? Because we sure struggled with getting run all over on by better teams, not to mention not being able to get to Mahomes again killed us. What happened the last 2 seasons? We got bounced in the AFCCG by the Chiefs in 2020, then again in the 2nd round by the Chiefs in 2021. What happened the very next game for the Chiefs both seasons? Lost both games...SB to Bucs after the Bucs D dominated the Chiefs and AFCCG this year they lost to the Bengals after the Bengals defense shut down the Chiefs in the second half and dominated them. So sorry, to sit here and pretend our Defense which gave of 42 points to Chiefs including 2 TDs and a FG in under 3 minutes of play at the end of the game was not the bigger issue is just crazy. Especially since the team we have NOT been able to get past keeps getting bounced the following week by DEFENSE.

Why do you point out the defense was ranked #1 and then dont mention how the offense was ALSO number 1 and number 1 for 2 consecutive seasons? Instead when talking offense you want to point out a specific unit instead while not doing the same for the defense. I didn't make anything up, I simply pointed out that its a FACT our defense has not been on the same level as our offense. We averaged 41.5 points per game in the playoffs. Josh accounted for over 800 yards and 9 TD's in 2 games. Our RB averaged 4.8 YPC. But what about our defense...oh yeah, they gave 42 points including 17 points in the final minutes of the game to send us home. So for a team with such a bad offensive line as you put it (which was not an accurate portrayal of the OL after Bates stabilized the line and we also started running the ball), we sure didn't seem to have any trouble scoring points, throwing the ball, or running the ball. BUT our front sevens inability to get to Mahomes sure as heck helped send us home. Our defense surrendering 42 points sure helped send us home. No one with any common sense what so ever blames our offense for not advancing past the Chiefs. Literally no one.

Isn't Twitter Spaces just a ripoff of Clubhouse?

Well you are basically complaining about signing Von Miller. I mean you seem want them to have spent that money on OL instead of Miller. His contract is the reason more money wasn't spent big on other positions this year. So dont come in here and say "Has anyone complained about adding Von Miller?" while then complaining we didnt spend more money on the OL because we signed Von Miller. And like I already pointed out to the other regular negative on here, Offense has been ahead of the defense the last 2 seasons. Yet we still invested a lot into the offense drafting while also working to improve the defense. Every year every single team has areas they can improve on. There has never been a SB champion that didn't have a unit that couldn't be upgraded. But teams work to keep making their teams better every offseason. But a team can only do so much in one offseason based on cap limits, available players, players that want to sign here, etc. We had a great offseason where both the #1 offense last year and #1 defense last year have seen additions that will make both sides of the ball even better this season.

I guess you missed the part where we drafted Cook and Shakir this year, both who will likely contribute this year. Or the part where we retained Bates, who helped stabilize the line last year and brought in Saffold and several other FA's. Or the signing of OJ Howard. I guess you missed the part where we drafted 2 OT's (one of which that emerged as a starter as a rookie) last draft along with a WR and signed Emmanuel Sanders. Or the year before in 2020 where almost our entire draft was offense that included drafting Moss, Gabe, and Bass...2 of which are major weapons for us. So, sorry, sell this false story elsewhere that we have ignored offense and put it on the back burner. We fielded the number 1 offense 2 seasons in a row and likely will again this year. To see someone complain about the offense while the defense has not been on the same level as the offense (not even last year when it was also ranked #1) is just mind blowing.

I didn't miss your point, I said I watched you complain about the defense and then seen you complaining we have spent money to make the defense better. And we did address our OL this offseason, you just didn't like the moves, but that isn't saying much because I can't think of anything you ever positive on that the Bills do. Besides just making moves on the OL, one thing that I think is going to help the OL ultimately is the change to Kromer, and thats a move I think that keeps getting forgotten and over looked. People panicking right now before the starting OL gets to play together is premature. We have some new additions and a new blocking scheme and new offense in general to install, and the starting unit hasn't taken any reps as a complete group yet.

Thats not what I said though. I said its amusing to watch people complain about something like the defense during the season...then complain about them going out and making it better. And you know full well you have done your share of posts here complaining about the defense, pass rush, etc.