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If we make a trade...a guy I would like to see us target is Chase Claypool. His skillset paired with Allen could be scary. Running 3 wide with Diggs, Davis, and Claypool? With Allens arm? Geezus watch out NFL.

Oh, I don't disagree with you there...I feel like they need to make Moss inactive, let Devin be a featured runner and let cook get those targets out of the backfield. And just live with what ever mistakes come with the rookie early and let him learn by playing through them. I think the biggest problem in the run game is just the fact they still don't run enough, and definitely don't give Devin enough touches. Devin should see 12-15 carries a game every week and Cook should be getting a handful of carries and 5-7 targets out of the backfield a game. And I don't think they need Moss even active, especially with how they are already mixing Gilliam in. We definitely do NOT need a 4 headed RB attack (Devin, Moss, Cook, Gilliam) to handle 8 to 10 carries a game. Both the RB's and OL need rhythm in the run game to be effective. So I definitely think we need to really apply what we got before and see what we get back before we start making trades for valuable draft picks.

I am not saying we are making a trade, I was just pointing out, the trade is more doable than people realize because they are grossly inaccurate on the real cap hits. One one thing I have learned is to NEVER count out Beane's ability to be creative with the cap to get the players here he wants and to retain the players here he wants to keep. He has proven to me that he without question is amongst the best in the business in working contracts to work with our cap. Something people are also over looking...the possibility and probability that Carolina will likely have to pay part of CMC's salary to trade him. They won't save a ton off their cap, but will get his numbers off the books in future seasons. And why would Car do that? Because they are desperate for draft picks. They only have 4 draft picks in 2023, including no 3rd and 5 picks in 2024 including no 4th. They are staring down a major rebuild essentially without the ammo to do it. So the higher value of CMC to Carolina right now is not on the field where its not helping them win games...but in moving him for pick(s) to help with the rebuild. So for me...anyone looking at the "cap" as the road block to a CMC trade doesn't really understand his cap hit and the options that are possible. But more importantly, they are grossly overlooking Beane's abiltiy to figure that out when its for someone he wants on this football team. None of this means we are trading for CMC, just means the "cap" panic around here is being over stated and not as unsurmountable as many think it is.

I get where you are coming from...but GM's don't (and shouldn't) think that way. I am not even talking about the RB spot or if we will or not make a trade. In general, the goal is to win a SB...what we have or haven't used draft picks on prior to today has no relevance to what they see today as a need to upgrade to increase our chances for a SB. And we already know Beane doesn't think like this because if he did he wouldn't have used a 2nd round pick on a DE one year and then the next used a 1st and a 2nd back to back again on DE. Same with RB...he is taken a RB in 3rd, 3rd, and 2nd rounds in each of the last 3 drafts. You do what you need to do until you have filled that hole the way you wanted to. Now none of this means we are making a trade, I don't know how McD and Beane feel about the RB position here right now. What I do know is that they are not using our personnel correctly thus far...too few rush attempts for our best RB in Devin, too many snaps for Moss, and not enough opportunities for Cook. Before I would make a trade, I would make Moss inactive, give Devin 15 carries and cook 5-7 targets in a game and see what they do with them. Because Devin has been effective consistently when given chances his whole career, but they keep forcing this 2 headed non-sense with Moss who is inferior to Devin in every facet of the game. And Cook has not been give much chance to shine yet other than garbage time against Titans where he did pretty well. But that is also because he fumbled his first snap and then dropped an easy pass too. But let the kid get some rhythm and confidence before we know if we need to make a trade.

Regardless if someone thinks we may or may not make a trade for him, the cap issue isn't as bad as people think and your cap info here is not accurate. First, he already restructured his contract this year, so his cap hit this year is a min base salary. Then the acquiring team is responsible for just $12M a year for the remaining 3 years because the guarantees also stay with the Panthers. BUT...$12M a year is still a lot, however, Bills can cut him with no cap hit if the injuries persist or he flames out. There is also still the option to redo his deal as well, and might even be something arranged before the trade if we were to include a premium pick. Not saying we are trading for him, just saying most people have the cap info about this potential trade wrong.

The only thing the activist is really trying to do here is get more attention on what he was protesting. Their lawyer knows already and I am sure they do to that there is 0% chance to win this case. It's merely a publicity stunt just like his BS move on the field was. Same thing happened in the Rams vs Bills game, same pink smoke for same BS publicity stunt.

No one is going anywhere...not in a SB press year... Tre will be eased in and have limited snaps, especially with how good our young secondary is playing. But once he is a full go starter again, I suspect it will be him and Elam given how well Elam has played. But they could rotate guys based on matchups or type of D they wanna run too. I think all of them will see plenty of snaps to keep guys fresh and I can see the "starter" possibly changing at times depending on who is playing better at the moment or matches up better with that particular team/WR. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me to see Beane flip one of our young guys this offseason for a decent draft pick like Benford or Dane potentially if the right offer comes along. With our cap, I know Beane is going to look for more ways to keep filling the team with young cheap talent and will covet draft assets to do so.

Doomed.

And you wonder why you get so much s**t around here…another stellar garbage thread for the purpose of being negative. It was f-ing raining and wet. Shocker a ball almost came out. DIGGS also had a TD go right through his wet hands, do we need to upgrade him too? Im ashamed at myself for even wasting my time posting in this absolutely pointless thread. I’m gonna go hold my hand over a candle flame until it burns as punishment.

Then why doesn’t he have a higher fumbling rate. Oh those pesky facts

I dont even have to look anything up to know your stats are wrong. He had a sack, so teh "no tackles for loss" isnt true and I watched him make multiple tackles for loss in game this year on RB's too, including Derrick Henry. So I don't know where you are pulling stats from, but they are not correct.

What drafts have you been watching? We drafted quite a few OL under this regime. Including back to back picks in 2021 when we took two DE’s followed by 2 OT’s. Not to mention Ford and Wyatt Teller.

Exactly. It’s like people forget the chunk yardage he regularly chews up and focus on one play or two where the RB was stopped (and more often it was Moss).

Without question our best option between knowing the offense for the most part and experience playing with Allen…but I don’t think there is much chance of it happening. Even if Beasley was willing to come back, Beane won’t bring someone in who didn’t want to be here. He will elevate off the PS before signing Beasley.

Neither. It was a FG

No joke…my wife says to me in the second quarter, “You need to change your hat, that’s not your lucky one”. I have a hat I had yet to wear that I bought last year (amongst others) at home opener. Started wearing it this year for the games and also had it in when I found out my wife was pregnant. Made the hat switch, poof…instant turn around on the field and we drive the field to get the TD before halftime. So my bad guys on the rough start, I had the wrong hat on.

Nah, we fostered a dog and my wife was smart enough to name him after something I love like a favorite Bills player to increase the odds I would go along with her plan to just fully adopt him lol. She’s smart

Could be the best trade we have made, and one of my favorite all time players. My dog is named Diggs even. But TBH, I hate this narrative of what he did for Josh Allens development as if it implies Josh developed into what he is because of Diggs. Allen was already making VAST improvements in short periods of time, going back to before the combine even, and before Diggs got here. No doubt, Diggs has been invaluable to this team and to Josh, but I think it short changes Josh in how much work he put in to become this great. His drive to be the best player he can be may be unmatched in the NFL even. Diggs or no Diggs, Allen was reaching this level regardless.

And then who catches it? Again your absurd attempt at some sort of distorted victory lap about saying we need WR help back in the off-season just because 4 of the WRs we kept are now dealing with injuries is pretty lame.

All Josh? Hmmmm...weird Josh throws it to WRs....sooo yeah.

They werent before injuries...So your victory lap is false.

Agreed, but its also nice to see them still maintain that high level play despite missing 2 of our best interior DL guys.

Because it does not support their agenda of looking for confirmation bias in any data they can use to validate their opinion.

He really is playing at a much higher level this year. And considering we are hurting up front, he and Milano really played a strong game of mostly keeping things in front of them, especially containing Lamar and taking away Andrews.

Literally there were people demanding to fire McD in the shout box during the first half. Unbelievable.