Alphadawg7

100% agree

I’m still not over that play call. I’m all for trick plays, but when we are moving the ball with momentum just do what you do best if it’s working

Now go get another stop.

Everyone is wide open. What is Babich doing

Coleman torched his defender deep and was wide open deep on the sack. The issue is the OL getting punched in the mouth every play

So frustrating, Coleman torched his defender on the outside and was a sure TD if Allen hits him on that last play. But OL gets blown up

Spot on. Total domination in the trenches

Coleman was wide open deep for a TD on that sack

At least we get the ball first in the 2nd half…oh wait…

You gotta be kidding me. How is every Raven just wide open everywhere

Well this is what we knew was coming at some point. Once more film was out there on this offense teams were going to find some ways to disrupt it. So this is that first real test for Brady, can he make the adjustments now. Same for Babich, both these coordinators need to figure this out.

he already caught the record earlier when Kyle Hamilton tackled him for a short gain on the first drive

his first one was, each one since has added to it

Just play our game. Stay calm here and answer

Welp…

Well we did and Kincaid dropped it

Kincaid has got to catch that

So all off season we had this terrible roster, Beane should be held accountable or fired, etc. Now suddenly we can win games with the inept and pathetic QBs of the past with this roster? Lol this board never ceases to deliver entertainment.

After 140 pages of all this 2 sided chatter...its really much much much simpler to determine the validity of the OP's actual thread. His thread is titled: "I am really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better." So there is one simple question that only needs to be asked: Going into Baltimore Sunday, which WR group do you want to see on the field this Sunday to give us the best chance to win the game? A) Last years group of Diggs, Davis, Shakir, Harty, and Sherfield B) This years group of Shakir, Coleman, Hollins, Samuel, and MVS It really is that simple in terms of the context of this threads actual point. And from my point of view, this is an obvious answer based on our first 3 weeks.

I still think Beane will look to a deal earlier to get about more a discount though., but of course it takes two to tango in that regard.

I agree with you on that, but that is not what Gunner is saying and some others who keep very specifically stating winning on the outside, one on one, down the sideline where the defender can use the sideline as another defender. Again I agree with what you just said here and that is why I said there is more way to win on the "outside" than is being discussed such as using size and positioning (back shoulder throws are one of the hardest plays in the NFL to defend for example), not starting from the outside and still attacking the boundaries, and starting from the outside and attacking the middle. Where I am saying I feel like an over fixation is occurring is in this very specific example of down the sideline in one on one that keeps getting brought up. And quite frankly, I personally already trust Coleman is capable of going up and making the catch over a defender in a one on one scenario. I would rather have a guy who is big, soft hands, with body control and knows how to his body to adjust and go up to get the balls in those one on one deep shots where there is a bigger margin or error of where the QB can put the ball. As opposed to a guy who is dependent on just burning his defender then relying on the QB to make an accurate pass that doesn't over throw him and does not come up short allowing the defender to erase the separation and turn it back into a contested catch scenario, especially if that WR doesn't have the size and physicality to have the advantage in a contested catch situation. And you can see the many deep shots to a wide open Diggs last year where Allen sailed the ball and flat out missed him or threw it short and resulted in an incomplete or interception. In a one on one matchup on the sideline, I personally prefer the big target with soft hands who has a big catch radius on those deep shots more than just a speedster guy more dependent on both beating his man and the QB throwing an accurate strike in order to complete the play. And while we definitely have not yet seen a lot of it, we have seen 2 plays from Coleman that are promising in this way with his week 1 sideline catch and his crosser TD where he torched his 1 on 1 matchup for his first TD. We have also seen Shakir make teams pay down the seam, Kincaid make plays this year and last year from the middle out on the boundaries, etc. Not to mention we have seen MVS get wide open deep twice but Allen just miss him bad. So while we have not been truly tested much in this manner, I don't think it would be fair to assume we just can't do it either based on some things we have seen so far.

Dont get me wrong, I could personally care less. I am just more talking about all this focus leading up to this game and how this is a big test for the Bills and how the media, and even the pessimistic crowd around here, always change that narrative after the games. Just like how a lot of people picked us to lose to Miami week 2 and then after we embarrassed them its now that the Dolphins just suck even though they have since had to play without Tua. Jags too...heading into the season and even that game it was all about the Jags being dangerous needing the win, how they have our number, etc. Then we blow them out and its well they just suck. So I don't think it will be any different if we decisively beat the Ravens is all with people citing their 1-3 record. And again, none of this is important by any means, just more of an observation. But mark my words...this board will be insufferable this week if we lose.

No disrespect, but this just really feels like its being over blown here. And I already know you are going to hit the disagree button on this, and that is fine, but this may be the single most over focused talking point I have seen on this subject. It honestly starting to feel like this something some of you want to hold on to because its the lone thing anyone can say we haven't been tested on yet in regards to those who have been more critical of the WR room. And I do agree, we haven't really been tested in this fashion...but I don't agree that its this end all be all piece of the offense that without it the offense will struggle or fail in big moments. I have watched KC and Pats build 2 dynasties not having that big play sideline guy. Even when KC had Hill, they predominantly did his damage on short throws across the middle that turned into big plays with YAC than they did just throwing sideline bombs. And when they did go deep to Hill, it wasn't down the sidelines and almost always over the middle. Look at the 13 second game...Hill busted that long TD on us to go ahead with just over a minute left in the game on a short crossing route. Kelce and Hill made plays in those 13 seconds over the middle. They scored the winning TD on a corner throw to the TE Kelce. Futhermore, our own attack was Davis catching TD strikes over the middle as well. I am not saying having the ability to win deep along the side line has no value...but you guys talk it up like its going to sink the offense if its not a key part of our offense. And FWIW, I watched Coleman do just fine on his lone shot down the sideline...I also watched him torch man coverage on his 3rd snap for an easy TD this past week. So he has at least shown potential to be able to make these plays in those moments. FWIW: Josh Allen stats against man coverage are filthy.

This game kind of feels like a no win type situation for the Bills in terms of "proving" anything this week. What I mean is all the people saying this is a tough game now are going to change their tune if the Bills win in decisive fashion again and point to the Ravens then 1-3 record and say well they just must not be any good (like they did after we smashed Miami and Jags) rather than look at the Bills as proving they are this good. At the same time, if we lose a tough road game on a short week while missing 3 of our best defensive players I am sure there will be a crowd that says points and says the Bills were a product of their schedule and not that good after all. And we already know what this board will be like if heaven forbid we lose a game in general.

I liked the Dorian pick when we made it, and I have liked what I have seen from him thus far. But I need to see more than 3 games before anyone starts talking about him starting over Milano when Milano is back. I don't know what the contract details are of Milano are, but I would think if Dorian does keep playing at a high level it is going to make Milano's future here murky at the very least. He is on the wrong side of 30, injuries are becoming an issue, and is more expensive.