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Huh? Where are you getting these impressions on his personality traits Dude, read your own post. Stop responding like you praised him just because you said he had top 10 potential. You trashed his character and yet to provide one statement to validate that trashing of his character. Unless you provide some context for your out of nowhere attack on his character, then it’s nothing but a troll attempt with this absolutely pointless and useless thread.

No, they did QB first. Beane wasn't a member of the Bills when we drafted Tre White. He was hired after the draft, came in right after the draft and immediately started clearing out cap space and players who don't fit the culture. HIs first draft pick was Josh Allen.

Just the Chiefs. Mahomes might be even better this year with a my diverse set of weapons and his best OL yet. Chargers don’t scare me because Hebert is soft. Give him time and he will pick you apart with precision. Smash him in the face and he folds. He doesn’t like contact. Don’t get me a wrong, he’s still an outstanding young QB, but he doesn’t have to have hat toughness that adds to what makes Mahomes and Allen who they are. I have confidence our DL will disrupt that Chargers DL enough to keep that offense from clicking on all cylinders.

I have no idea why you are getting so many eye rolls here, I 100% agree that Shakir should be active over all 3 active of Devin, Moss, and Cook. Despite being up multiple scores late, we still only totaled 15 total carries to our RB's, plus Josh Allen had 10 himself. We do not need 3 RB's to handle 15 carries a game, and Moss is the one who should be inactive. Moss had the worst game of any Bill on both sides of the ball. While leading the RB's in total touches he had 2.5 ypc, 3.5 ypc as a receiver and a fumble. Making Moss inactive we still have 3 guys who can do damage in the run game...Devin, Cook, and Allen. Moss is essentially a 4th RB when you factor Allens runs into the game plan. And while McKenzie had a TD, he also had a minimal impact most the game and a costly turnover. I actually thought Crowder had the better game. There is room for Shakir to get snaps on the field with how much we throw the ball, and so far, no one has really locked the slot spot down. So using Shakir some in the slot, and having him for some outside work too to me has more value then carrying an extra RB when we don't run the ball a lot with our RB's. Devin is by far the best runner on the team, when we are handing the ball to RB's just 15 times a game, he should be getting a MIN of 12 of those carries, if not all 15. Especially when he is averaging 6 ypc. Devin is a capable receiver too, and Cook brings speed and an even better receiver skill set. I actually think there is a strong possibility Shakir will be active this week. And it wouldn't surprise me to see Moss inactive if all our dinged up guys suit up.

If anyone had any doubt left, and honestly you should not have...Beane is the best GM in the NFL right now, and I don't think its even up for debate anymore. This is just a class act move and show of total respect and appreciation for his players. This is the kind of stuff that makes players want to come here, and I mean that seriously. You don't see a lot of GM's do this kind of thing, especially for players who are 31. This is a fantastic move for the team, Poyer, and the commitment to the pursuit of a championship. I could not love this move more to be honest. It's a win win for everyone and Jordan has more than earned this and deserves this opportunity.

I would guess this is different for every team, I don't think there is going to be a specific answer here.

Same! He looks like a monster out there this year size wise with all the athleticism he always had. On one of his big plays I swear I thought it was Jones and I was like what, thats Jordan? He seems a lot bigger than I remember.

Moss has a career 3.9 YPC compared to Devins 4.7 YPC though, it wasn't just one night is the issue. Devin out performs Moss in every statistical measurement over their careers, and most areas by a significant margin. Again, not down on Moss, it's just one game, but he is clearly not as good as Devin, so there should never be a reason why Devin only gets 8 Carries while giving up 6 carries to Moss. Devin had a higher catch rate than Moss last year by almost 10% better.

I get where you are coming from, but Moss just isn’t used that way. He’s getting carries throughout the game, not just short yardage and Devin gets short yardage attempts too. So while your point makes sense, I don’t think it’s really how Moss is used. He is used as a committee back, not a goal line back. It’s not like most his attempts are only short yardage attempts, in fact it’s the opposite. So for me, he just isn’t better than Devin in any area of the game still. And that includes statistically and the eye ball test for me. Devin hits the hole better, faster and more instinctively than Moss, and that is what is most important in short yardage. And Devin still runs with power and a low center of gravity. But all good, everyone has their own eyes and opinions, don’t have to see it the same way. Enjoyed the discussion though

You do realize Moss had ONE first down right, not several powerful first down runs on his night where he averaged 2.5 YPC and fumbled.

Ok, let me ask you a question then. Why do you think Moss is a better pass receiver? Motor had 40 receptions last year on 50 targets for an 80% catch rate. Moss had a 71% catch rate last year on his 23 receptions. That is what I mean when I say a "myth". I do not mean that to be people are lying, I just think there are a lot of beliefs about Moss compared to Devin that don't actually hold up statistically. I wouldn't have an issue if someone wants to say they are similar as receivers, but statistically Moss has not proven he is a "better" receiver than Devin. As far as the short yardage goes, the stats do not support Moss as being better either. Yards per carry: Devin 4.6, Moss 3.6 Yards before contact/att: Devin 2.3, Moss 1.5 Yards after contact/att: Devin 2.3, Moss 2.1 Tackled for loss rate: Devin 6.4%, Moss 9.4% If we look at their stats, Devin gets more yards before being touched by a wide margin, and then gets more yards after contact too. He also has a significantly lower tackled for loss rate. So for me, this is why I say it is kind of a myth that Moss is better than Devin in these areas. I think it has more to do with how underestimated Devin is though in these areas than anything. He has really powerful legs and low center of gravity and always finishes with the pile moving forward. He gets in the hole faster and finds creases better too. And this post wasn't meant to be argumentative, more explaining why I think some these beliefs about Moss compared to Devin are more myth than factual IMO. And like I said, I think it has a lot more to do with Devin being underestimated than Moss being over exaggerated. All good man, just my 2 cents

He had the most touches, averaged 2.5 yards per carry and 3.5 yards per catch...and he fumbled. Moss: 6 carries for 15 yards (2.5 ypc) and 6 rec for 21 yards (3.5 yards per catch). NOTE: 8 of his 15 yards came on one carry. His other 5 carries went for 7 yards and a fumble (1.4 ypc) Devin: 8 carries for 48 yards (6 ypc) and 2 rec for 7 yards (7 yards per catch). Devin was literally two to three times as effective in every facet of the game, and did not turn the ball over. But that is not even the issue...the issue is our RB's only got 15 carries...when you have only 15 rush attempts, you get your best player most, if not all, those carries. That is not a heavy workload for a RB. And Devin is without question the better player. Devin runs just as hard, if not harder than Moss and with better vision. Moss has this myth about him that he somehow the more powerful runner and better short yardage back, but it's just not accurate. There isn't anything Moss does better than Devin...and I don't say that as if Moss is a bum, it's just Devin is flat out better and has been every day these two have been on the roster. I am not down on Moss, nothing personally against him, but he honestly had the worst game of any player on either side of the ball Thursday night. If we were a heavy running team, then great, split the carries. But given the limited amount of carries our RB's typically see, we don't need a committee to handle that workload. Give the better player the touches. So, it's not that I am down on Moss, I just don't want to limit our better RB to 8 carries to get a RB that is not better than Devin at anything touches. And while Cook fumbled too, he at least brings more dynamics to the RB group with his speed and receiving skills.

What did Moss do to keep himself active? He had 2.5 yards per carry and 3.5 yards per catch with a fumble, despite leading Bills RB's in total touches, plus a fumble. Moss literally had the worst game of any player on either side of the ball yesterday. The rookie, also had his fumble, but he at least brings another dimension to the offense they want to use in his receiving skills.

Agreed, he has plenty of time to be ready and if not, we got beasts waiting in the wings to fill in. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Moss inactive next week. He had the most touches by end of the game, mostly because Bills built a 2 score lead, but he did squat with those touches and was highly ineffective with a fumble. Im not down on him, but clearly, Devin is the best back on the roster and will, and should, dominate the carries.

Our whole DL played great, we got impact plays across the board. A lot, practically all, of the credit is going to just Von's presence, but that beefed up interior was a major game changer. Its much easier for the pass rush to get home when the DL dominates the LOS and doesn't let the run game get going and forces the opponent to throw more often. And that interior wasn't just slamming the door shut on the run game, it was wreaking havoc on the pass rush too, all without blitzes coming. This DL just through down a gauntlet, if it can keep even 80% of how it played up the whole season, its going to be historically good.

haha whoa, we thought it was someone’s ballsy gender reveal, thanks for clearing that up

Ramsey got torched all post season last year, this isn't new for Ramsey to get torched. Him being top 10 on the top 100 was a joke.

There is a LOT of context missing here. First half, he didn't run much...halftime score 10-10. Second half, both the OC (designed runs) and Josh (improvised plays) start using his legs more...21 unanswered points. And lets not forget, 2 of our RB's put the ball on the ground and committed 2 turnovers too this game. Ideally they don't want to run Josh more than they have to, but at the end of the day, its part of what makes Josh unstoppable, and when the team needed to make sure we were doing everything we could to win that game, Josh running got more involved. And that is how it should be. So moving forward, I don't expect to see Josh running a ton early in games if the offense is clicking without it. But in tougher/important games, games that are close, or games the offense is on point, expect to see Josh's competitive nature come out and see him run and without caution as well as Dorsey utilize those talents to make sure we keep moving the sticks.

I loved bringing Jordan back, but man this is short changing Oliver who was a beast last night too while in the game. Its not always about the player, its about the scheme and fit. And for whatever reason, Jordan is a perfect fit in our D compared to how he fit with his other stops. Glad he is here and hope he stays long after this season.

This is sooooooo awesome!!!! As I stated in my thread, we found out after the game my wife and I are pregnant! Then there was what seemed like a gender reveal smoke bomb thrown on the field during the game. BABIES GALORE opening night!

Thats awesome! And yes, they look like they are poised for a special season...and we still don't have Tre back, or really any experience for our rookies already playing like both corners, Cook, and Shakir who are all going to contribute this year. In other words, we should only keep getting better. Haha thanks! Nah, we got names already picked out...but a Von jersey certainly will be in store haha

Found out after the game my wife is preggos with our first baby after just getting married this summer! We just started trying to, and she wasn't even supposed to take a test for like 12 more days but she was feeling lucky after the big win and took one anyway! This is gonna be one amazing year! Bills are winning the SB then having a baby in late spring! Yup...this is a LAMP post, but I don't care GoBIlls!!!!

Are you in every thread to be negative? Agreed on all accounts. For example...Kareem Hunt fumbled his first carry after never fumbling a ball in college. It means nothing really, doesn't change his potential. Now if he goes on to have a fumbling problem, that's a different story.

Everyone is giving all the credit to Von Miller and overlooking the biggest upgrade on the team was the 3 DT's we brought in with Jones, Phillips and Settle. Our interior DL wreaked havoc all night, including 2 sacks by Phillips. Von has been amazing, and an amazing start, but don't underestimate what a massive difference a defense looks like when you dominate in the trenches inside. Bahahaha, this got me man, kudos!

Seriously, what is your motive here besides going absolutely out of your way to be a wet blanket?