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Look, it’s my fault 💯 I started the game off still wearing my Niners hat that I wore to support my wife’s team in the afternoon game while her friends and parents were here to watch game. I cooked up a storm for them as this was my wife’s last chance to prob hang with friends to watch a game for a few months as she is due to give birth here in next week or two to our 2nd boy. I was just planning to relax and enjoy leftovers during the Bills game and was so tired I forgot I still had a Niners hat on rather than the new Bills hat I had wore weeks 1-3. In fact it was my wife who noticed it right after Henry’s TD run and ordered me to change it. She’s the best. My bad.

The issue is how they are using him and Cook. They keep pulling Cook to run a handoff or two to Davis when there is no reason to pull Cook out. RB’s need rhythm, and expecting a rookie to come in cold and succeed on the next carry and pull him back out isn’t an approach that is going to win a lot. 2nd issue is he also got carries when we were obviously running in blow out wins to chew clock in 2 games. So that’s gonna also hurt his YPC. I am still very high on him, but they need to let Cook get in rhythm and bring Davis in when Cook needs a rest and let Davis run some consecutive snaps to also get into a flow. I hate how they are rotating them now.

I don’t really disagree with this, although I think Mack has more value than just a handful of snaps given how much he’s affected the offense (almost every TD and many of our big runs and YAC plays)…BUT that value is when the run game and short YAC game is flowing. In a situation where you are pushing the uptempo offense because you haven’t gotten the other aspects going that we saw roll so easily first 3 weeks, it really should be Samuel or even Knox out there more. We have these 2 TE’s and Ravens have been weak defending the pass up the middle, but I don’t recall seeing much 12 personnel out there this week and yet we drafted Kincaid after extending Knox just for that purpose. I love that Brady is using these quick strike screens, been missing from our offense for years. But he also over used it and over relied on it this week. Maybe it was a panic move to try and counter how bad we were getting abused up front, I don’t know. But we didn’t trade up for Kincaid to throw TE screens to him a bunch of times. And we are paying Knox a lot to barely use him. This is a guy who had 15 TDs in 2021 and 2022 despite low usage. Brady has been great the three weeks coming in, so not going to condemn him after a week where the whole team just was flat and out muscled on both sides of the board. But I do hope this is a learning experience and he can show he can adjust moving forward. And that means more Coleman, more Kincaid away from the LOS, and getting Samuel involved outside just some gadget plays or screens. And one last note: While I am very high on Davis, they need to stop switching off Cook so much. RBs need carries to get in rhythm. Expecting Davis to just come in for a random carry on 2nd down is both taking Cook away from getting into a rhythm and asking a rookie to come in cold and succeed on the next play. ESPECIALLY in a game like this where you’re struggling to establish the ground game. Let Cook get Cooking. If Cook gets 8 yards on first down let him pickup the first down if you are going to run it again or leave him in and run a play action or read option.

Keep in mind, our offense took a vacation second half of weeks 2 and 3 and Josh had only 2 attempts before the final drive of the first half week 1. Not to mention week 2 was the Cook show. So that’s gonna affect his target totals through these first 4 games.

It needs to get some use out Samuel for sure. This reminds me when they talked up McKenzie back when Cole was still the slot WR all camp long. How he was gonna be used all over the place and such…then the season started and he barely saw the field the whole season except for the one Pats game. But more puzzling is that McKenzie sucked, so that at least made more sense. Brady has gotten a lot of Samuel before who is a legit NFL WR (unlike McKenzie who is a low rent gadget player at best) but somehow doesn’t look like he has much of a plan for Samuel other than quirky gadget plays.

Agreed Yeah they focused so much on the fumble and if Josh was hurt on the replay I had to rely more on what the announcers were saying who mentioned it was Coleman coming open. So yeah, will be interesting to see what that crap show play was looking like downfield on the All 22.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not suggesting he’s going to suddenly become a top 10 WR in a week or anything, I am more saying I think they are going to make him a bigger part of the offense moving forward.

He separated several times tonight, and deep.

And I’ve said it a bunch now, Coleman absolutely torched his defender one on one and was running down field for a would be long TD on the play OCyrus got worked and they sacked Allen quickly. The kid then got open downfield again next drive and that was the one he dropped. And I am pretty sure it was Coleman running open deep down field that Allen tried to launch the ball too on the stupid trick play where Allen got stripped on the attempt. I really feel like this is the game where when they go back and look at the film they realize they need to get this kid going early moving forward. And if they can get the Allen-Coleman connection humming, this offense is going to benefit greatly.

Im going to call it now - Coleman is going to see 7+ targets next week. I think this is what is going to be the silver lining, that this was sort of a coming out party for him. And once Coleman starts establishing himself as a primary target in this offense, they won’t be able to cheat their top CB to Shakir. Now…the bigger concern is how can they get Samuel going. When we need to get into high uptempo pass attack, we should be relying on Coleman, Shakir, Kincaid, and Samuel…but so far it’s like they have no idea what to do with Samuel out there. They need to get him involved.

Good recap, and I pretty much agree with most of this. Couple minor notes: I never liked the MVS signing and was praying someone would bump him off the roster. So I don’t disagree he’s not bringing a lot to the table other than running fast in a straight line. To his credit, Allen has missed him on 2 deep shots he was open earlier this season, but honestly I trust him to make the catch about as much as I trust Bass to make 50 yard FG. But Hollins has value to this team still. He’s supposed to be our 6th target, so he was never meant to be a high target volume guy. Where I think the problem is really with Samuel being a non factor. When we need to press the ball downfield it shouldn’t be Hollins we need to depend on. It should be Coleman, Shakir, Kincaid and Samuel along with our backs that we look to in those moments. But like you said, for what ever reason Samuel has been a ghost and it feels more like they don’t know what to do with him. Whatever they are doing isn’t working, and they need to get him going and get Mack off the field in those more pass heavy moments. Or of if they can’t, then they need to get Knox more involved as a pass catcher run more 12 personnel. The only area I disagree with is Shakir. Teams are not going to be able to cheat their CB1 short on Shakir if Coleman keeps building on this game, and I think he will. Coleman was close to a massive night tonight. When Allen got sacked because O’Cyrus got torched, Coleman toasted his one on one on the outside and was wide open deep for a TD with an accurate pass from Allen had he not had the Ravens DL in his face of the snap. Then of course the next drive was the one he dropped which would have been another big play. Seeing Josh and Brady come back to him and trust him to make those great plays down field after was awesome. And I really think that this may have been a mini coming out party for him in terms of his involvement moving forward.

I’ve watched it on every game so far and will again this time.

I agree with you about the OL. With the receivers, it’s hard to gauge them this game with the OL playing so bad and no run game support. But, I was encouraged by Coleman tonight and I’m hoping tonight’s silver lining is that he starts being more involved moving forward. He got open deep multiple times plus he had those great back shoulder plays. I have a feeling we will see his targets grow from this point on personally.

What I don’t understand is what happened to all the plans they had for Samuel. They use him like they don’t know what to do with him.

I think the OL had a lot more to do with the issues tonight than anything. They couldn’t get Cook going, they couldn’t pass protect, and they got to Josh with ease on 3rd downs. I wouldn’t say no to Hopkins, but I also didn’t leave that game feeling that the WR group was why we lost.

Brady has been excellent this year coming into tonight. Im not going to condemn him after one game where we were dominated in all areas of the game on both sides of the ball. But…that was a learning moment. It was incredibly stupid play call. Down 2 scores on the road while you have momentum you stay calm and keep playing your game and do what is working. You don’t run a risky play there that quite frankly was just a bad play design from the get go. It really hurt the team and a case can be made it cost us any chance of getting back into this game. But let’s see how he and the offense responds next week.

Yeah and Im less worried about the offense, we more beat ourselves there. And def good to see them go back to Coleman and get the kids confidence up after that drop. Coleman was 2 plays away from a monster game. On the Allen sack, Coleman torched his guy on the outside and was open deep for a TD if Allen doesn’t get sacked. And then of course the drop. If we can just not beat ourselves on offense we will bounce back. The D concerns me more as they couldn’t tackle, cover, or stop the run tonight. I think we finally felt the weight of losing Milano, Bernard, and Taron tonight. Good news we should get Taron back maybe this week and Bernard either this week or next week.

I agree 100%

Mitch TruPicksy

Agree and that starts with the Coaches. This is where they need to show they can learn and adjust after being taken to the wood shed.

It’s one game on a short week, against a good team, on the road, down key players. I’m not going to panic, we were never going undefeated. However, this is where Babich and Brady need to show they can learn and make the adjustments. Tonight is what it is…now it’s about how they respond to adversity. We got smashed in the trenches and that can’t happen. And one thing I hope Brady learned tonight is you don’t try some gimmicky high risk play when trailing on the road while you have momentum. You play your game and keep calm and take what the D is giving you as you are again driving. Game ended on that dumb play, we never recovered.

This was a dumpster fire across the board. We got punched in the mouth tonight. Now it’s about how they respond. Can Babich and Brady make adjustments and be better prepared next week. Really hoping we at least get Taron back this week, even better if we bet Bernard too.

Bye Bass.

This, but we also don’t get that big Shakir play earlier if he did it then. It’s part of the give and take with Allen. Sometimes he doesn’t get away, more often than not he does though