Alphadawg7

I was attacked a lot all off season when I repeatedly said McKenzie was NOT a starting level slot WR. I repeatedly said that Beasley today is substantially still better than McKenzie. But this board is fundamentally flawed in player evaluation where the only quality it see is straight line speed. They think that is the most important skill and that is all they focus on. But McKenzie isnt tough, doesn't run great routes, can't catch in traffic, cant fight for yards, doesn't win contested catches, and isn't a cerebal player...all things that Cole excelled at. I actually felt that the offense was better off after Davis ascended past Sanders last year, so I wasn't worried about losing him. I have to say, while Davis has flashed his big play ability again, he is really struggling right now with catching the ball and getting open consistently. I was always fine signing OBJ, but I didn't think we "needed" too nor did I think we would offer enough money and long enough deal for him to come here anyway. But, I have to say, with Davis struggling like this, I think signing OBJ is something that we actually should really be considering right now. But...I will also say this. Dorsey needs to make adjustments. Big plays were coming to easy, and he needs to figure out how to get our other weapons more involved like Knox, Shakir, Devin, Cook, and now Hines. These are all guys who should be utilized better and see us get back to spreading the ball around again instead of just always pushing it down field. I really thought Dorsey would involve the TE more this year, but Knox only has 1 more target than he did last year. Knox has been used to pass block a lot, and that has been needed and something he does well, but there are still more opportunities to get him involved. Especially in the redzone.

Lets keep in mind, Josh did not get hurt running the ball, and he has never been hurt running the ball. All of his injuries in college and pros came from throwing in the pocket. But, don't get me wrong, I am all for protecting Josh more if he plays through pain. Minimize the risk...however, I feel a lot better when Josh rolls out then I do when he stays in the pocket because in the pocket is where Josh takes the vast majority of his biggest and most vulnerable hits.

And with all due respect right back at ya bud, that is basically what I did say. He is credible on what might have have happened...his own personal speculation only. But he has no updates, insight, or knowledge of what is actually going on with Josh Allen. He is self diagnosing on what is possible, not what is actually the injury, if any, with Josh. So when I say he is not a credible source, I mean he has no credible medical information on what is or isn't currently wrong with Josh Allens elbow. He just can list all the possible injuries, which includes no significant injury, that may happen on a play like that. So again, its not anymore credible than anyone making a guess in terms to what the real diagnosis is on Allens actual elbow. Thats all I am saying

Thanks...but I wouldn't call this credible. He may be credible on listing what is possible, but nothing about this is a credible update to what Josh's situation actually is. This is someone with no knowledge of Josh's status just saying these things are possible. This guys tweet is like when I was 22 years old and got super sick and went on WebMD and self diagnosed myself as having stage 2 syphilis and went to a free healthcare clinic where they laughed at me and said "so you are one of the 52 people in all of Los Angeles huh?" Took them about 3 min to figure out I had strept throat and just needed an antibiotic 😂

Bills know our season hinges on Allen being healthy for the playoffs. I am fully confident Allen will only play Sunday if the injury is a non issue. They are not going to take chances with his throwing elbow. Especially since we are 6-2 and still the number 1 seed. If they had to sit Allen for a week or two, worst case scenario is to lose those games and we would still be 6-4 and in full control of a playoff run still. They know having Josh for the playoffs is substantially more important than Home Field Advantage.

I don't know where all this panic is coming from. What am I missing because I can't find a single credible source saying anything other than day to day right now. There are just some random twitter posters are they are hearing rumors or rumblings...but their sources seem to just be other random people posting fears or concerns without actually any information or knowledge. Obviously it would be awful to see Josh miss time or the season, but end of the day, right now there is not a single shred of information I can find anywhere that remotely suggests he will be out a significant amount of time or for the season.

I wouldn't quantify the Vikings as a red hot team. Yes they have a 1 game better record than us, but their schedule has been weak and they struggled to beat lesser teams. We are two missed FGs from Bass from being potentially undefeated, but injuries are a concern obviously for us as we have a lot of defensive injuries and now a potential Allen elbow injury. But I wouldn't say we can't beat the Vikings with Keenum, they just barely beat the lowly Commanders with Heineke at QB. In fact, they have barely beaten a lot of bad teams who had backup QB's playing. We have a great team with a better backup than most, so I think if Allen had to sit this is still a winnable game, which is why they traded for Keenum in the first place.

Gotcha, thanks for the insight into the injury

Gotcha, ok that makes sense. Although I think if Josh is limited, they likely sit him rather than risk playing him through it which is why they traded for Keenum. Ultimate goal is to win a SB, so I think they would err on the side of caution with Allen rather than risk a bigger injury.

Josh last pass, and right after his elbow injury, traveled further than any pass in the NFL in 6 years and was right on the money and hit Davis literally in the face for him to drop it 70 yards downfield. But you think he can't throw deep?

It is actually amazing to me how bad your takes consistently are, amongst the worst on the board just about every week all year long. Even in the LIVE BROADCAST the announcers said they didn't think Josh could see the defender because his view was blocked. Josh takes full accountability at all times, he is not going to say what ever he wants to say. He has always told it like it is and was the FIRST person to take the blame every time.

Didn’t realize Bills played a whole season in one game yesterday.

Well maybe that’s because coming off a loss is like Christmas for you given you pretty much stay in the negative lane all year.

Geezus…one loss against a stout defense and we went from SB favorite and most talented roster in the NFL to everyone but 2 guys are replaceable. That Beane and McD are not good enough. Make. It. Stop. The mental toughness of this board is at an all time low. Everything must be perfect or we suck and everyone should go. It’s crazy. Didn’t realize the Rams had a perfect season last year, or the Bucs the year before, or every SB champion in history. Shame on the Bills for not having a perfect season. Let’s clean house and rebuild.

I feel like only like 2% of the posters on this board right now even understand this info. Someone should pin this so the rest of people ready to jump off a cliff because we lost a game can process this info.

Make. It. Stop.

What are you even talking about? You replied to my post, I didn’t call you out or even mention you. I’ve never even heard of you until you posted at me lmao.

No it’s not. Your ability to analyze TE play is though.

That’s true for any great QB…running the ball keeps them off the field.

I don’t disagree with that, but I think you are over looking the impact of the missing personnel on the defensive scheme.

You are confusing the word honest with the phrase over dramatic. There are people in here declaring that the man (Allen) leading the NFL in total yards and touchdowns, and on pace to break the NFL record, who is the number one seed in the AFC and already beat Mahomes in KC is now done and out of the MVP race. And I am the one who needs to get a grip? LMAO

We were missing 40% of our starting defense, of which are amongst the best in the NFL at their respective positions. That is not just something you easily patch up like no big deal. You don't take all pro caliber players off the field and replace them with backups and just assume "next man up" can do the same job the all pros were. If we lost Diggs on offense and had to start Kumerow, it would be insane to expect the same performance. Why people think plug and play is so easy on defense is puzzling to me. So for me, I am less concerned about about the defense which is not healthy right now compared to our mostly healthy offense struggling. And outside of 2 halves of football (2nd half GB and 2nd half Jets), Bills run D has been excellent the rest of the season. So I am not going to panic over 2 halves of football with a severely injured Defense. And more importantly, in those same 2 halves, it was our offense that was sputtering and kept forcing the defense back on the field thanks to some turnovers and unsustained drives.

I love how if Mahomes loses...which he has to Josh Allen and to the lowly Colts...people here barely bat an eye on his MVP odds. When Allen (under extreme circumstances with a decimated team) loses to the Dolphins (which wasn't Allens fault) and then has a bad 2nd half against the Jets after the Jets shut the whole offense down people here declare the race over and Allen out of it. So Mahomes has lost to Allen and a bad Colts team. Allen lost to 2 teams who would be the 3rd and 4th seeds in the playoffs right now, and one of which took us having a decimated team and extreme weather to lose. Not to mention, had Bass just hit his FG's in both games we likely don't lose either game. The reactions to a Bills loss this board are so stupid it makes being on the boards practically unbearable. Allen is still on pace to break season records, still the #1 seed in the AFC, still first in the division, still leads the NFL in total yards and total TD's, and has been a one man wrecking crew for the Bills. Not to mention...during the first half, Allen was trending on twitter saying he is the MVP and its not close after his 2 TD runs. One bad half later and Bills fans are on here saying he cant win now. I don't know how some of you get through your days with all the roller coaster of emotions you have on over the top hot takes off every little thing.

I dont think so...I mean he was running hard in the first half just like the week before. The difference was the packers with their very talented secondary and the Jets with their up very good secondary and nasty front 7 made adjustments in the 2nd half to disrupt Dorsey's offense. Guys were not coming open for Allen like they had been, guys were dropping passes, and Allen made a couple errant throws as a result. People need to remember, the defense we are facing each week are being paid to make plays too, and they just flat out made more of them. This is the first mini slump for the offense under Dorsey, and now we need to see how he adjusts and gets the offense back on track. We have played 2 bad halves of football, the 2nd half of last two games, on offense. They have plenty of tape now to see how their offense was getting disrupted and need to figure out the necessary adjustments. Personally, I think Dorsey and the offense got used to having their way with defenses out there and have tried too much for the big plays and pushing downfield for chunk yardage. I think they need to focus on getting guys going all over the field and spreading the ball around again like they were earlier in the season. We have a lot of under utilized weapons on the offense between Knox, Devin, Shakir, Cook, and now Hines. These guys can do damage all over the field underneath. Not to mention getting Devin more carries in the run game.

Edmunds was again all over the field, and people just blindly blaming him when he was not even the issue. Its like people don't even watch the games, they just come out and say we lost because of Edmunds by default. Our defense was literally missing 4 of its absolute best players, and amongst the best in the NFL in Hyde, Poyer, Milano, and Tre. Then we had our first round pick get hurt and miss part of the game too. And we gave up just 20 points. Just like last week, people were freaking out about the D despite winning by 10 points. The issue was the offense in the 2nd half against the Packers and the 2nd half against the Jets. Our offense was only missing Brown on the OL but it got shut down in the 2nd half in back to back weeks. Both weeks we were also playing 2 of the best secondaries in the NFL right now, not to mention Jets have a nasty front 7. The defense won the 2nd half battles in both games and we went 1 - 1 in those 2 games. This is the first mini slump for the offense under Dorsey, and now we need to see how he adjusts. We also didn't do ourselves any favors yesterday by dropping passes, Josh having some errant passes, ill timed holding penalties, Bass missing his FG, etc. I think its premature to hit the panic button. Our defense is not healthy, so I am less worried about it. But Dorsey needs to make adjustments to get the rhythm back on offense and start creating ways to get guys open. Davis is struggling right now, he is dropping too many passes and not getting open enough. They need to start scheming to get him some rhythm and confidence back as well as start utilizing our other weapons more like Knox, Shakir, and our RB's more to help take pressure off Diggs and Davis too.