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Literally laughed out loud...post of the day. Kudos

This above statement presumes innocence but infers he made bad choices that led to being falsely accused of sexual assault. So if he is innocent, what was the bad choice? Having consensual sex while in college at a college party where he was living? Are you alluding that college kids should just abstain while in college in fear they could be accused of sexual assault later?

To be honest, I don't understand the plaintiffs lawyers choices and antics on a lot of things he has done. He has posted text messages of him threatening Matt's attorney to settle or else. He has posted photos of all her journal entries that were written by the plaintiff the day after and the days following that she literally does not have any memory of who took her to the room or who raped her. Why he did this is puzzling to me because it completely contradicts his own filing and claims in the civil suit act that not only names exactly who did those things, but the exact manner it happened, all contradictory to her own journal entries before retaining a civil attorney. The civil attorney was direct text messaging Matt and direct contacting the Bills, all for the purpose of encouraging a settlement. His twitter is full of him trying to win his cases in the court of public opinion on all the cases he is involved in, obviously to create more leverage in doing his job to get the most money on behalf of his client. And he is getting a lot of backlash over it and put out this long full page statement ranting and justifying him trying to do this all in the court of public opinion. And we do not actually know if anyone form the Bills investigation spoke to the plaintiff. Her attorney just said the Bills directly did not call him or ask him any questions...but the Bills did not do the investigation, a 3rd party did and we do not know who he has or hasn't spoken to yet. And quite honestly, her statement is just going to repeat what was published in the civil suit now. None of this means she wasn't assaulted or makes her less credible. I am only discussing why the Bills did not go through her civil attorney...again civil not criminal...to conduct any investigation into the matter. And honestly, no one doing any proper investigation would work with any civil attorney on any matter. If he was a criminal attorney I suspect there would be more dialogue between the team and said attorney.

No disrespect at all intended here, but you seem to be making assumptions here on what was or wasn’t found before we know what Bills PI discovered. I agree with pretty much everything else you said, all valid comments.

You can’t interview the plaintiff if it’s not disclosed to you. And the you keep saying the Bills investigation was not thorough because they didn’t talk to the plaintiff. But: 1. You don’t know if the 3rd party PI spoke at all to the plaintiff. 2. The plaintiff has already submitted conflicting versions of the events. She repeatedly stated in her own journal and in statements that she does not know who led her to the room or who was in the room. Then files a civil suit naming 3 specific people and who exactly led her in and raped her. 3. The lawyer has complained on social media that the Bills didn’t run the investigation through him. He didn’t want the Bills talking directly to his client, he wanted the Bills to talk to him and he had personally contacting the Bills for weeks trying to incentivize a cash settlement. 4. The plaintiffs statements at this stage are going to just be the claims in the civil suit. Point is, he is not a criminal attorney, he is a civil attorney. Big difference. It’s not in his best interest to let anyone talk to his client, he isn’t building a case, he’s trying to win money and the best way to do that is incentivize all parties into settling, something her attorney has been doing and has on his own accord out things on social media confirming that. So, you can’t talk to a Jane Doe if that person isn’t disclosed. And you don’t do an investigation and involve a civil attorney in said investigation. So I think people need to cut the Bills a little slack here. They are getting blamed for a lot of things they really shouldn’t be getting blamed for IMHO.

Not according to her attorney whose complaining he was not involved in the Bills investigation on social media.

Yet it wasn’t. And I would not classify it as “common knowledge” because some students were aware. It’s pretty unreasonable to think teams should interview the entire student base on every player at every college. That’s not common knowledge and not something that’s ever going to come out in any teams due diligence on a player. The School and the Coaches did not disclose the story, no charges were filed, there were no law suits filed or even in motion, and no news outlets were aware. Matt’s record at the time was squeaky clean by all accounts. So, it’s just incredibly unreasonable to expect any team to uncover a story like this that could only be uncovered if they conducted individual interviews of the entire student base attending the same college to see if there is any other dirt or rumors that no other part of their due diligence process would ever discover. And then do that at every college in the country for every athlete they are evaluating. So hard disagree this is on the Bills front office for not knowing before the draft.

You don’t contact a civil attorney, whose 100% biased and being paid by a client to win money for said client, to do your investigation. Especially one that has been contacting the team in an effort to spur and push for a cash settlement. A third party PI was hired to do the investigation which is 100% the proper path to take in any situation like this. And the Bills decisions were based on that investigators findings. IMHO they did it the right way by taking it to a 3rd party and steering clear of a civil attorney looking for money for his client. Her attorney has released text messages already showing he was pushing for a settlement and emailing the Bills and the Bills attorney.

How is Matt even a miss though? This was not known before the draft by anyone. Can’t blame Beane for also not knowing what wasn’t known by anyone. This isn’t Beanes fault what so ever just like it’s not the Pats fault for giving a contract extension to a murderer. Not like the Pats knew he murdered people and then gave him an extension. Just like Beane didn’t draft Matt knowing he was going to be accused of gang rape.

I’ve been firmly in the let more info come out first crowd before we rush to judgement. And I still believe that. But seeing McD at the presser and even some of the players quotes has also given me a 180 that this is too heavy of a situation to carry into the season. So for me, there needs to be a very strong piece of information that comes to light immediately that supports Matt’s case or I don’t know how they can keep him on the team while his case plays out. And honestly, sounds like the opposite may have happened where they may have gotten new info that makes his case worse. I think he will be cut this weekend.

Yeah, I think that seems to be the case too. Tomorrow will be very telling, if Matt is cut then it pretty much confirms they found some stuff out that they are not comfortable with at the very least and that will definitely be more damning to Matt’s case in his claims of being innocent. I honestly don’t see how they can keep him on the team past tomorrow if they have any new information that is damning to Matt’s claim of innocence. I suspect we will know pretty early in the morning if he is going to be cut tomorrow.

People keep saying this, but it’s not true. He was not at all the highest rated punter in the draft, Stout was. Many teams didn’t have Matt in the top 2 even. In the NFL, hang time and accuracy are far more important than distance. And Matt had legit questions about those areas. He had a catchy nickname and the media covered his long punts…that is why fans thought he was the best punter, because he was the only one they heard of. But actual GMs didn’t care as much about punting 80 yards as they do about accuracy and hang time. He had the most intriguing skill set, but he was not the country’s best punter last year nor the most NFL ready.

I think tomorrow will be a pivotal day. If Matt is still on this team 24 hours from now, then I think it was more about it’s just an awful situation and difficult spot for McD in the press conference to field questions about such a horrific event a young woman went through. If Matt is cut tomorrow, I think it’s a safe guess that there was some new information exposed to them today that they were not comfortable with and probably didn’t previously know.

But the concern becomes can he get separation. Duke Williams used to gobble everything up in practice and preseason too, just couldn't get separation against starters in the same way.

How many snaps did he have against backups and scrubs who won't be on NFL rosters?

3 rec for 13 yards. He is averaging under 9 yards per catch over 3 preseason games despite leading the team in targets and receptions. I am rooting for the kid, but you won't make a team averaging under 9 yards per catch as a backup WR unless you can prove you can contribute on ST.

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I am impressed with the push up the middle our reserve DL is getting right both on runs and QB drop backs

When does the fun stuff not involving punting conversations begin here?

Show me anywhere I stook my neck out for anyone. Seriously, show me one time I said he is innocent. I said we need to wait until more is known before we decide his guilt or innocence. I cant believe how difficult it is for you to understand that.

Seriously and spot on. Also...This dude has a pattern of trying to win cases on twitter, just go look at his posts on all his cases. Does not mean this woman is lying, just means this article is incredibly stupid and terrible journalism.

Lol, of course they are not "investigating" the case through EITHER parties attorney. Both attorneys are 100% biased to their clients version of said event in any case ever. He is a civil attorney representing a client for money, not an unbiased investigator, he has no role in anyones investigation into the matter.

I agree...its sadly the world we live in today with social media and the internet

Oh I don't disagree, I had fully expected Haack to not be on this roster going back to the end of last year. I was just saying, if they had planned on also cutting Matt, it would have already been done. They clearly felt good enough about Matts case at the time they cut Haack to also keep him, praise him publicly, and not bring in any other punters, despite how close to the season we are. But again, all that can change at any moment like I said. Public pressure or new info could sway their stance and they could cut him at any time. My main point was they had 6 weeks to investigate the situation and decide if they felt comfortable with Matts side of the story or not before this story came out.

Yet you still DONT know if he was even on the property at the time the rape happens. Oh those pesky facts...