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Doesn't matter...if Minkah had intercepted the pass the ball is still live until he takes a knee or gets tackled. Meaning any player could rip it out of his had which would be an instant TD

Didn't die on any hill...already posted many videos of Devin making same kind of run and for longer. Not my fault people prefer blind false boasts over video facts.

But hurt...lmao...I had to contain my laughter when I saw you respond with a fans rant on twitter as evidence of something you know nothing about. Thanks for laugh though

Wow dude...now a fans ranting tweet on twitter is now your evidence? In all sincerity, this might be the worst piece of evidence and rebuttal to a post on TSW I have ever seen. I can't even believe you thought this was worth sending. The most hilairous part of this tweet is that he is clearly directly talking to people who are clearly critizing his tackling 😂 I mean look at our own fans...there are Bills fans who want to fire both McD and Beane...hell there were people in the shout box saying to fire them during the first half of the Ravens game. But please go on...please send me more tweets of uniformed fans making whiney proclamations on twitter as evidence. 🤦‍♂️

Dude..why do you always try and manipulate what people are saying to be something else? You came into a conversation where the discussion was Devin being able to make a certain play. I did not say anywhere he can't be upgraded from...or that we wouldn't try and upgrade...or that we would resign him...etc. In fact, I have repeatedly said I don't think he will be back. None of that has anything to do with wether or not Devin could have scored on the same run Cook did. I was even in the trade rumor thread talking about I wouldn't put it past Beane to pursue someone he deems could put us over the top. And clearly CMC is better than Devin as he is better than almost every RB in the league. So you need a new schtick man...your act is getting way too old and repetitive.

Just saying you responded to GunnerBill with the 1 missed tackle stat as a rebuttal to him saying he isn't known as a run stopper. Point is, 1 missed tackle doesn't translate into him being good against the run. He makes tackles on receivers catching the ball, that is a lot different than tackling a player running in the open field. So just pointing out the 1 missed tackle doesn't refute GunnerBills point.

Panthers only have 4 picks in this draft...5 in next years draft. And they still suck after failing to fix the QB situation with Darnold and Baker. Maybe he should sign Rosen and trade for Rudolph just to round out the failed QB's from the same class. Maybe the guy they should be firing is the GM?

What does missed tackles have to do with play against the run? Hey, if he made 5 tackle attempts and only missed one that seems great unless there 30 other attempts he wasn't in position to even register a miss. Minkah is not a run game enforcer...and no missed tackle stat can refute that.

Top 3 WR should be Diggs, Davis, Shakir. I love McKenzie, his personality, his energy...but on the football field he isn't dynamic enough IMHO and too one dimensional. He just is not a starter IMHO...more a guy who can be a weapon in situations than an every down slot WR. Shakir has a lot of similarities to Kupp, and I have said that since day 1. And it's not a coincidence either as he literally patterns his game after him. Shakir just flat out brings more to the table IMHO. But bringing him along slowly is the right call, because talent is one thing, experience and awareness is another...but not only do I think he will take over the starting slot position, I think he should officially ascend to that as soon as this week, or at the very least after the bye. If we sign OBJ, then yeah, he will take over that slot. But based on existing personnel, I think it should be Diggs, Davis, and Shakir.

I think that is more of a function in lack of opportunities though. Last season, in the 7 games where Devin got 12+ carries, his season average would have been 1400 yards and 17 TDs over a full season. He has run well too this year, but you can't lead your team in rushing if you don't actually run the ball. What we have seen, is we don't really start running the ball with any regularity until the starters come out in blow out wins. And at that point, they have been giving the rookie snaps with Keenum as they pulled the starters. Our biggest 2 issues this year in our run game are not running enough and their mistake of using Moss. But they have seemingly finally caught on to the Moss issue and got back to giving Devin the lions share of the snaps. But we still just don't run much, and hard to fault them on that when Allen is balling out like this. And I am not saying we cant improve on Devin by any means, and I doubt we sign him back as hard to validate paying RB's when you can draft a cheaper one. But this whole discussion started when people over exaggerated Cooks TD and said none of our other RB's were fast enough to make that run which is the only thing I took exception too as it was a complete farse given Devin has done it many times.

Im not saying he will be resigned, that is a completely different conversation (this one is supposed to be about whether Devin could make that same TD run or not). But Cook was brought in to be a complimentary RB, not a feature RB. Whether it is to Devin or to someone else, he wasn't drafted with the intent on being a featured 3 down RB. Just like how they went after McKissick first and then signed Duke when that fell apart. Cook may at some point prove he can be a feature runner, but that will be a bonus, not the point of why he was drafted. I mean even Beane talked about what they were looking for with Cook, a guy who can be that receiving weapon out of the backfield after McKissick decided to reup with Washington instead. But more importantly, none of that has anything to do with the conversation of the false narrative that Devin was too slow to make that same TD run, which is what he was replying about in the first place.

Lets face it...if not for injuries combined with extreme weather, Bills would be undefeated right now. Bills utterly dominated the Dolphins, few breaks just didn't go our way. Allen would be the MVP today without question if they polled right now. Its his to lose. If we beat KC, Allen will decisively have a lead that will be hard to overcome without Allen and the Bills hitting some sort of slump during the season. The only 2 people that pose a threat to Allen right now in the MVP race are going to be Mahomes and Lamar, and he already beat Lamar and had a much better game on Sunday than Lamar did too. Mahomes already has a loss to the Colts, and has a tough divisional game tonight still. Plus, Mahomes and the Chiefs have been hot and cold this year somewhat on offense. So if Allen also beats Mahomes on the road like he did Lamar, he will have a decisive lead that will be hard surmount in the MVP race.

He is easily going to win comeback player of the year. He won't sniff the MVP race as a legit contender for it unless his team starts winning games. He might get some token mentions as like the 5th guy or something at some point, but he won't contend for it.

You mean 1 year after Devin was a rookie and split time with Gore? Because he was still unproven. And showing how ridiculous your comment is, Moss isn't any faster than Devin...but you can't even keep the narrative straight lol. Literally, this isn't that complicated dude. You are just desperately trying to prove a narrative that you want to sell.

Cook was drafted to compliment him. You obviously did not watch the video either

I wouldn’t put that all on Elam though, several those catches were insane and with perfect coverage on Pickens. There was nothing more Elam could have done better on several of those today IMHO. So I think he still had a strong game outside the penalty

No disrespect bud, you’re a great poster, but I know you didn’t watch the video. Because if you had then you would know the first play of the reel he literally does this as well several more times in this one video of some highlights from just last year. I get there is this slow opinion people have of him, but it’s just not factually correct to say he couldn’t do that run because he has done it several times. Devin Highlights You can’t watch this and then honestly still say he couldn’t make this run. And there are many more examples besides what’s on this reel. Bonus: This video also shows how he runs with more power than Moss and is a better short yardage back than Moss too.

Honestly…Davis is just another example of how 40 times are not remotely as relevant to a players performance as people on this board make it out to be. Football isn’t about running in a dead straight line with shorts on and no pads or defenders. It’s why it’s maddening when people claim Devin is too slow when he has excellent change of direction and acceleration speeds allowing him to play faster than people think just because they have a bias towards his 40 time. Davis has become an excellent route runner, probably has a lot to do with Diggs, and he beats his man with his feet giving him separation. And to be fair, it also helps having Diggs on the other side drawing a lot of attention too. Jerry Rice ran like a 4.71 forty, didn’t impact him and no one thought he was slow for example. Davis is becoming a beast, still don’t think he’s even reached his ceiling yet either.

Watch the video I posted, he’s blown by people like that many times

There is zero chance you know what you are talking about. Zero. Video doesn't lie. This is just from last year alone.

Well that is a fair point about Moss, and I agree with Moss and his bad instincts and reads, however even Moss could have found that hole, but maybe doesn't cut back because he lacks vision. But if anyone googles Devin Singletary highlights they will find a lot of runs where Devin makes this same play or more. I totally agree Devin is an unsung hero. One of the dumbest myths around here is that Devin is slow. People foolishly look at combine 40 times to define speed, and then hang their hat on that time. 40 times are one small measurement, it doesn't come close to painting the whole picture. Devin has excellent acceleration and change of direction speed. That makes him play a lot faster than some stupid 40 time that literally only matters on the 2 or 3 runs a season a RB breaks some 80 yarder. His ability to cut and accelerate has him out running the defense frequently and getting more yards than he should on many plays. He hits the hole hard and fast too, something Moss doesn't do and something Cook has not yet begun to do, but that is likely do to lack of opportunities to get his confidence and rhythm going. But doesn't matter how many big runs Devin puts up, how many times he blows by a defender for a first down or big gain...or his excellent career YPC average...the same people who don't understand how speed is really measured on a football field are going to say he is too slow. Just like all the ridiculous comments people have made saying Devin couldn't rip that run off that Cook did when he has not only done it many times, he has done it for longer runs. Except Devin has done it many times and even for much longer runs. So yeah, those pesky facts again...

No this thread is terrible. When we didnt have a QB and we tried to be a running team to mask a bad QB when we had Taylor McD's first year here...all of you melted down, called McD conservative, said he was a mistake and needed to fired so we could hire an offensive minded coach. Now Daboll leaves, has a weak QB and runs his offense through one of the best RB's in the league when healthy and all of a sudden you all want to change your tune. You know full well that if Josh Allen was the QB for the NYG with Diggs and Davis at WR they would be a pass first team. So no offense, but this thread is terrible and lacks any real world context.

Geezus Christ…do you try and start a negative thread every week? You got some quota to meet?

Someone pin this post. 👏

I mean any of our RBs could have scored on that TD…but was still nice to see and hopefully gets the kid some confidence because he’s been playing slow out there at times. But I think that’s just been a combo of too few snaps and a couple snafus with the fumble and key dropped easy pass. But I expect the kid is going to start seeing more snaps and Moss is gonna be phased out. He’s gonna be a nice weapon come playoff time.