Alphadawg7

No it’s not. Your ability to analyze TE play is though.

That’s true for any great QB…running the ball keeps them off the field.

I don’t disagree with that, but I think you are over looking the impact of the missing personnel on the defensive scheme.

You are confusing the word honest with the phrase over dramatic. There are people in here declaring that the man (Allen) leading the NFL in total yards and touchdowns, and on pace to break the NFL record, who is the number one seed in the AFC and already beat Mahomes in KC is now done and out of the MVP race. And I am the one who needs to get a grip? LMAO

We were missing 40% of our starting defense, of which are amongst the best in the NFL at their respective positions. That is not just something you easily patch up like no big deal. You don't take all pro caliber players off the field and replace them with backups and just assume "next man up" can do the same job the all pros were. If we lost Diggs on offense and had to start Kumerow, it would be insane to expect the same performance. Why people think plug and play is so easy on defense is puzzling to me. So for me, I am less concerned about about the defense which is not healthy right now compared to our mostly healthy offense struggling. And outside of 2 halves of football (2nd half GB and 2nd half Jets), Bills run D has been excellent the rest of the season. So I am not going to panic over 2 halves of football with a severely injured Defense. And more importantly, in those same 2 halves, it was our offense that was sputtering and kept forcing the defense back on the field thanks to some turnovers and unsustained drives.

I love how if Mahomes loses...which he has to Josh Allen and to the lowly Colts...people here barely bat an eye on his MVP odds. When Allen (under extreme circumstances with a decimated team) loses to the Dolphins (which wasn't Allens fault) and then has a bad 2nd half against the Jets after the Jets shut the whole offense down people here declare the race over and Allen out of it. So Mahomes has lost to Allen and a bad Colts team. Allen lost to 2 teams who would be the 3rd and 4th seeds in the playoffs right now, and one of which took us having a decimated team and extreme weather to lose. Not to mention, had Bass just hit his FG's in both games we likely don't lose either game. The reactions to a Bills loss this board are so stupid it makes being on the boards practically unbearable. Allen is still on pace to break season records, still the #1 seed in the AFC, still first in the division, still leads the NFL in total yards and total TD's, and has been a one man wrecking crew for the Bills. Not to mention...during the first half, Allen was trending on twitter saying he is the MVP and its not close after his 2 TD runs. One bad half later and Bills fans are on here saying he cant win now. I don't know how some of you get through your days with all the roller coaster of emotions you have on over the top hot takes off every little thing.

I dont think so...I mean he was running hard in the first half just like the week before. The difference was the packers with their very talented secondary and the Jets with their up very good secondary and nasty front 7 made adjustments in the 2nd half to disrupt Dorsey's offense. Guys were not coming open for Allen like they had been, guys were dropping passes, and Allen made a couple errant throws as a result. People need to remember, the defense we are facing each week are being paid to make plays too, and they just flat out made more of them. This is the first mini slump for the offense under Dorsey, and now we need to see how he adjusts and gets the offense back on track. We have played 2 bad halves of football, the 2nd half of last two games, on offense. They have plenty of tape now to see how their offense was getting disrupted and need to figure out the necessary adjustments. Personally, I think Dorsey and the offense got used to having their way with defenses out there and have tried too much for the big plays and pushing downfield for chunk yardage. I think they need to focus on getting guys going all over the field and spreading the ball around again like they were earlier in the season. We have a lot of under utilized weapons on the offense between Knox, Devin, Shakir, Cook, and now Hines. These guys can do damage all over the field underneath. Not to mention getting Devin more carries in the run game.

Edmunds was again all over the field, and people just blindly blaming him when he was not even the issue. Its like people don't even watch the games, they just come out and say we lost because of Edmunds by default. Our defense was literally missing 4 of its absolute best players, and amongst the best in the NFL in Hyde, Poyer, Milano, and Tre. Then we had our first round pick get hurt and miss part of the game too. And we gave up just 20 points. Just like last week, people were freaking out about the D despite winning by 10 points. The issue was the offense in the 2nd half against the Packers and the 2nd half against the Jets. Our offense was only missing Brown on the OL but it got shut down in the 2nd half in back to back weeks. Both weeks we were also playing 2 of the best secondaries in the NFL right now, not to mention Jets have a nasty front 7. The defense won the 2nd half battles in both games and we went 1 - 1 in those 2 games. This is the first mini slump for the offense under Dorsey, and now we need to see how he adjusts. We also didn't do ourselves any favors yesterday by dropping passes, Josh having some errant passes, ill timed holding penalties, Bass missing his FG, etc. I think its premature to hit the panic button. Our defense is not healthy, so I am less worried about it. But Dorsey needs to make adjustments to get the rhythm back on offense and start creating ways to get guys open. Davis is struggling right now, he is dropping too many passes and not getting open enough. They need to start scheming to get him some rhythm and confidence back as well as start utilizing our other weapons more like Knox, Shakir, and our RB's more to help take pressure off Diggs and Davis too.

We look a LOT better THIS year through 8 games than we did last year. This board is always so over the top after a loss.

Or...we just played 2 of the better secondaries in the NFL in back to back weeks. Jets D is one of the best units in the NFL right now with very good corners and a nasty front 7. So maybe we shouldn't panic just yet...defenders get paid to make plays too. Josh had an off game, the whole offense was out of sync again in the 2nd half. We lost to the Jags last year and then set NFL playoff records on offense.

If by blueprint you mean the Bills need to be missing 4 of their best players on defense and then continue to lose more of them to injury at times during the game, then sure. Geezus...this board never learns. Freak out after a loss every time. We lost to the Jags last year and then went on a tear. Jets defense is legit. They played a strong game. Allen and the offense had a slow game. Josh Allen is still on pace to SHATTER the NFL total yards record and we are still the #1 seed in the AFC. Give them a chance to adjust and figure out what is going on before we declare they are figured out and the sky is falling. Somone already started an absurd thread "Fire Everyone". See you all in a week...this board is going into the toilet this week.

The funniest part about your bad takes is that you don’t even know what we were discussing in the first place, which was your Dolphin statements, not the Bills run game. Literally can’t have a discussion with someone who doesn’t even know what he’s discussing. LMAO

Best part about this is now I know you have nothing you’re gonna post worth reading. So I can skip them from now on

What are you talking about? No s**t he plays WR. I asked you how many yards did Hill have (receiving) and because you keep pumping their run game up I asked you how many yards rushing did they get. Your posts here in this thread are literally absurd

Every QB in the NFL pleads for PI, late hits, etc. Its literally part of their job to do that. Show me a QB who doesn't and I will show you a bad QB. I mean the defender literally shoved him late, so any good player is going to sell the contact. The contact was absolutely illegal though in the first place.

LMAO...Man, some of you have the absolute worst hot takes. How many yards did Hill have against the Bills while missing its ENTIRE STARTING SECONDARY and lost one of the backups who started the game actually during that game? How many rushing yards did they have that game? How many passing yards did Tua have? We will wait while you go google your reality check.

LMAO...there are some terrible takes on here, but this is one of the worst. Too slow physically? He is unreal fast for his size and one of the faster LB's in the game. I mean do you even know what number Edmunds wears because how could anyone not know this or see this on the field when he plays? Cant be a successful starting LB in the NFL? The same guy that is a 2 time pro bowler, entered the season 5th in total tackles across the NFL since entering the NFL as a raw underaged player, and is on track for probably a 3rd pro bowl this year? The guy who leads the number 1 defense in tackles every year of his career? They guy everyone on this board says he is going to get a huge payday this offseason? This is the guy you think cant be a successful starting LB even though he has been one his whole career? LMAO The absurdity of saying that he cant be a starting LB in the NFL is so beyond outrageous its like it came straight out a slapstick comedy. He would start on the vast majority of the NFL rosters without question. This is the kind of over the top, outrageous gross exaggeration about him that drives me nuts.

Facts: Edmunds is having a very good season. It's indisputable. Anyone refusing to accept that just tells me you either don't know enough about football to know what you are looking at or are just more concerned about being right about your dislike than you are about being unbiased and giving him a fair review of what he is doing this season. Its totally OK to not want to resign him still, I don't have an issue if someone doesn't want to spend a large amount of money on a player or position. But if you are sitting saying he still sucks this year, then you are not worth discussing anything with because you are unreasonable and just stubborn on your own bias. None of it means he will for sure be resigned because his contract and the cap are real things that will play into any decisions about him. But he is undeniably having a very good season.

Gotcha, misunderstood. I thought you meant the offseason speculators like myself that kept saying we needed to draft a CB given we did not know when Tre would be back. I kept getting so much flack from people saying he was gonna be ready week 1 and we did not need to draft a CB early because of that. I totally agree with your sentiment here though now that you explained what you meant. Them being cautious with Tre literally had nothing to do with it "not going well" and was something I always thought was likely going to happen in the first place. So yeah, my bad for misunderstanding where you were coming from, and yup, I 100% agree with you on all of that. Deleted my post now that I know we were talking about 2 different things as well.

Here comes the panic over reactions to an over rated player

Utterly terrible take. Bills were fine giving up some run defense to make sure Rodgers didn't get any quick strike scores and mount a comeback. We had a big lead and chewing clock was just fine. This is why you are not a football analyst. You would have to actually understand game planning and strategy.

LOL...I didnt say its unbearable around here now, I said after a loss, and that its getting bad even after wins now. Look at how many panic over reaction threads are on the board right now. Look at the comments in the shoutbox yesterday and today. And its only Monday. You would think we lost by 2 scores, not won by 2 scores. And Nextmanup is the one who used the term "unbearable", so I was countering that point specifically

Yay, another extreme hot take. You people realize Davis missed time and also played hurt right? Commenting on his total catch numbers is unreasonable. Another extreme hot take over one game...really over one half...of a game we won by double digits and against one of the best pass defenses and secondary's in the league. You people realize there is talent on the other teams we play too right? You realize they get paid to make plays too right? Not every player is going to dominate every second of every game. Is it Sunday yet cuz I don't how much more of these extreme hot takes I can take?

Its actually quite the opposite. Lets run down the norm after wins around here... Panic if we didn't BOTH dominate passing AND running. We have weekly we are doomed threads if you we dont sell out our future for a RB. And I am not even opposed to say trading for someone like Hunt. But this implication that if we don't we are screwed is a weekly groundhog day repeating theme. Even in blow out wins. OVER exaggerate any one thing that didn't go absolutely perfect as if elite teams play perfect on every snap of the ball for every second of 60 minutes. Demand we fire McD, Frazier and Beane during the first half when we aren't blowing them out yet. I have seen in multiple games, all games we won too, THIS YEAR where several people were calling for McD, Frazier and even Beane to be fired in the first half of wins. Endless threads to complain about players like Devin and Edmunds after they had GOOD games. Now you can add Davis to that list as now people think he isn't good enough despite having a record setting YPC season so far and having missed time. But suddenly he isn't good enough because he isn't second on the team in catches. Its honestly exhausting even recapping that, and I can keep going with the over the top panic and nonsense around here. We are an impossible amount of injuries and extreme heat from being undefeated, we are the consensus SB favorite, we are considered by far the best roster in the NFL, we are considered the best defense and offense when healthy by just about everyone, and we have the consensus MVP right now. Yet people are on this board talking like we are a fringe playoff team or in some form of desperation. And if you don't want to revel in people's extreme hot takes, they just double down. There are people on this board who seem to think we must have a Madden like roster where you have an NFL best player at every position. There are people on this board who seem to think we MUST play perfect every play of every game or peoples jobs are on the line. Its utterly unbearable around here after a loss, and honestly getting hard to be around here even after wins now. EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL HAS PLACES ON THE ROSTER THEY CAN UPGRADE. Every one of them. We don't need over exaggerated screams and whining to make big moves every week. Of course there are places we can upgrade, and Beane has PROVEN countless times he will explore those opportunities for what is good for the Bills.

Why are you so hung up on this? As @Simon already said, just because it wasn't clear to you doesn't mean it wasn't clear. Milano didn't make an issue about it, McD and Bills sideline didn't make an issue about it. The broadcast booth saw it was incomplete and didn't make an issue about it. I mean rather than waste so much time on this one play in a double digit win, why not just go google search for the proper angle or just rewatch the game to see the replay angle that shows it clear as day that most everyone else saw? So many people have told you there is an angle that clearly shows it, but you keep arguing as if it doesn't exist. This is a weird thread