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Then what happened? Nothing much, just went on to set NFL playoff scoring records last year and averaged 42 points per game in the playoffs with Allen throwing 9 TD's in 2 games. Except none of this accurate other than him being an outstanding teammate. But everything else you said is incorrect.

This pretty much sums up what I have been saying in all the other threads. So you got an agree from me. One thing you left off though...Dorsey needs to figure out how to adjust. He needs to find ways to involve a more spread out offense where we are getting the ball into other hands in the passing game like Knox, Shakir, and the RB's. You covered some of that, just didn't mention Dorsey's role in that and him needed to show he can watch the film on how the Packers and Jets made halftime adjustments to stall our offense, and show he can adjust.

Mental issues? Really? Where were all the mental issue concerns when Brady threw 4 INT in a game, or when Brees did that, Rodgers did that, Manning did that, Montana did that, etc? Our offense was out of sync in the 2nd half of two games against 2 great secondaries. Allen made a few bad decisions and some errant throws...now all of a sudden he has having "mental issues"? And we won one of those games thanks to Allens big first half, and should have forced OT in the 2nd one at the very least had Davis not dropped a ball right off his face to end the game on what was one the greatest throws of the season by any QB...or had Bass not missed another FG. The amount of unrealistic perfection people expect out of Allen and the Bills this year right now is so crazy. Mahomes has had more bad stretches this year than Allen...where are all the concerns over his mental issues?

I thought the Wyoming one was on a sack. Other than that, it is true. Allen has not missed a game in the NFL or since that injury you said he was scrambling on in Wyoming from an injury that occured on him running the ball as a runner. Every game he has missed has come on a pass related injury. That is the fact. You literally just tried to add in injury scares to count them as injuries.

He had a bad second half in back to back games, not a bad game and a half. He has 4 TD's in the first halves of both those games. People need to step back a second and breathe. We don't need to over exaggerate things here. We are a missed FG by Bass and a dropped pass by Davis from winning the Jets game and being 2-0 in this "bad stretch". GB and Jets have excellent secondaries, and that allowed them to not blitz much, in fact Jets I think blitzed only twice all game. This gave them extra guys in coverage and Dorsey failed to make the adjustments we needed. Jets especially have an excellent front 7 and brought pressure all day with their front 4, again allowing them to take away the big play from the Bills in the passing game. End of the day...the bigger concern here IMHO is Dorsey. He needs to figure out how to make adjustments because we just watched 2 teams in back to back weeks make halftime adjustments to take his offense out of sync. Guys are not getting open, especially Davis. Dorsey needs to scheme better to give Josh more options. This is what happens when you don't have a threat out of the slot like we did with Cole. McKenzie experiment needs to end, its an utter failure like I said it would be. They specifically said part of the reason they traded for Hines was to use him to return kicks so Shakir would no longer have to even though he has done a good job. Beane said they are asking a lot of him as a rookie to return kicks and learn to play WR at the NFL level and want to free him up to focus on being a WR. This tells me they both recognize the need to get Shakir more involved in the passing game and plan too, and this offense needs that. Now it is up to Dorsey to scheme better and give more outlets to Josh like Knox, Shakir, the RB's, etc.

Lol, I put a funny laugh face after it as poking fun a bit. But his input is as worthless as anyone else guessing. Credible means he has credible information on Josh Allens actual medical diagnosis. If they haven't spoken to the Bills, Allens doctors, etc...then the tweet is as worthless as any other tweet. There is not a whole lot of things that could be the injury, one doesn't have to be a doctor to predict the few possible injuries a movement like that can make. I don't have a medical degree, but I can tell you with pretty strong accuracy the types of injuries possible when a knee is bent the wrong way or the ankle rolled up. And all of those diagnosis possibilities include it being a non-injury as much as it does a minor one to a serious one. Look at Kupp last week, initial reaction was he was going to be out a while and had at the very least a serious sprain to possible season ending injury. He didn't even have an injury designation by the end of the week and played this week. People were melting down all over twitter about their fantasy football seasons for nothing. So that is where I was coming from. Great he is a doctor (assuming thats even true given its twitter), but means nothing in regards to Josh's actual diagnosis. And this is how rumors start and panic starts...guys like him getting everyone all charged up with literally no actual information to base it on other than a "all things possible" analysis. Its just a pet peeve of mine in this world of baseless claims, misinformation, etc. we live in now. None of that pertains to you, just specifically saying with tweets like this.

Josh played the next game, I am talking about injuries where he missed games. All of his injuries where he missed time were related to him throwing the ball, not running. And all but that one came inside the pocket, including all of his NFL injuries.

Davis needs to get open more. He is not getting consistent separation and has a catch rate of a dismal 54% on the season as a result. I have been very high on Davis, and thought he had a shot to lead the team in yards and TD's this year with all the attention Diggs gets and his big play ability. But facts are facts, it can't be over looked he is not getting open like we expected and has had some costly drops. Personally, I think Davis is struggling with the additional attention he is getting, especially with no one else (like a Beasley last year) being a serious threat elsewhere on the field. Our slot production is a fraction what it was. Its time to make Shakir a bigger focal point in the offense IMO. We need someone there to step up, and its NOT McKenzie, to be another threat out there. Because right now, we just saw 2 of the best secondaries in the league just clamp down on the big play threats of Diggs and Davis in the 2nd halves of these past 2 games and it threw our whole offense out of whack. We need to pose more of a threat else where to help open up our outside guys. That includes running the ball and getting the RB's and Knox also more involved in the passing game.

I was attacked a lot all off season when I repeatedly said McKenzie was NOT a starting level slot WR. I repeatedly said that Beasley today is substantially still better than McKenzie. But this board is fundamentally flawed in player evaluation where the only quality it see is straight line speed. They think that is the most important skill and that is all they focus on. But McKenzie isnt tough, doesn't run great routes, can't catch in traffic, cant fight for yards, doesn't win contested catches, and isn't a cerebal player...all things that Cole excelled at. I actually felt that the offense was better off after Davis ascended past Sanders last year, so I wasn't worried about losing him. I have to say, while Davis has flashed his big play ability again, he is really struggling right now with catching the ball and getting open consistently. I was always fine signing OBJ, but I didn't think we "needed" too nor did I think we would offer enough money and long enough deal for him to come here anyway. But, I have to say, with Davis struggling like this, I think signing OBJ is something that we actually should really be considering right now. But...I will also say this. Dorsey needs to make adjustments. Big plays were coming to easy, and he needs to figure out how to get our other weapons more involved like Knox, Shakir, Devin, Cook, and now Hines. These are all guys who should be utilized better and see us get back to spreading the ball around again instead of just always pushing it down field. I really thought Dorsey would involve the TE more this year, but Knox only has 1 more target than he did last year. Knox has been used to pass block a lot, and that has been needed and something he does well, but there are still more opportunities to get him involved. Especially in the redzone.

Lets keep in mind, Josh did not get hurt running the ball, and he has never been hurt running the ball. All of his injuries in college and pros came from throwing in the pocket. But, don't get me wrong, I am all for protecting Josh more if he plays through pain. Minimize the risk...however, I feel a lot better when Josh rolls out then I do when he stays in the pocket because in the pocket is where Josh takes the vast majority of his biggest and most vulnerable hits.

And with all due respect right back at ya bud, that is basically what I did say. He is credible on what might have have happened...his own personal speculation only. But he has no updates, insight, or knowledge of what is actually going on with Josh Allen. He is self diagnosing on what is possible, not what is actually the injury, if any, with Josh. So when I say he is not a credible source, I mean he has no credible medical information on what is or isn't currently wrong with Josh Allens elbow. He just can list all the possible injuries, which includes no significant injury, that may happen on a play like that. So again, its not anymore credible than anyone making a guess in terms to what the real diagnosis is on Allens actual elbow. Thats all I am saying

Thanks...but I wouldn't call this credible. He may be credible on listing what is possible, but nothing about this is a credible update to what Josh's situation actually is. This is someone with no knowledge of Josh's status just saying these things are possible. This guys tweet is like when I was 22 years old and got super sick and went on WebMD and self diagnosed myself as having stage 2 syphilis and went to a free healthcare clinic where they laughed at me and said "so you are one of the 52 people in all of Los Angeles huh?" Took them about 3 min to figure out I had strept throat and just needed an antibiotic 😂

Bills know our season hinges on Allen being healthy for the playoffs. I am fully confident Allen will only play Sunday if the injury is a non issue. They are not going to take chances with his throwing elbow. Especially since we are 6-2 and still the number 1 seed. If they had to sit Allen for a week or two, worst case scenario is to lose those games and we would still be 6-4 and in full control of a playoff run still. They know having Josh for the playoffs is substantially more important than Home Field Advantage.

I don't know where all this panic is coming from. What am I missing because I can't find a single credible source saying anything other than day to day right now. There are just some random twitter posters are they are hearing rumors or rumblings...but their sources seem to just be other random people posting fears or concerns without actually any information or knowledge. Obviously it would be awful to see Josh miss time or the season, but end of the day, right now there is not a single shred of information I can find anywhere that remotely suggests he will be out a significant amount of time or for the season.

I wouldn't quantify the Vikings as a red hot team. Yes they have a 1 game better record than us, but their schedule has been weak and they struggled to beat lesser teams. We are two missed FGs from Bass from being potentially undefeated, but injuries are a concern obviously for us as we have a lot of defensive injuries and now a potential Allen elbow injury. But I wouldn't say we can't beat the Vikings with Keenum, they just barely beat the lowly Commanders with Heineke at QB. In fact, they have barely beaten a lot of bad teams who had backup QB's playing. We have a great team with a better backup than most, so I think if Allen had to sit this is still a winnable game, which is why they traded for Keenum in the first place.

Gotcha, thanks for the insight into the injury

Gotcha, ok that makes sense. Although I think if Josh is limited, they likely sit him rather than risk playing him through it which is why they traded for Keenum. Ultimate goal is to win a SB, so I think they would err on the side of caution with Allen rather than risk a bigger injury.

Josh last pass, and right after his elbow injury, traveled further than any pass in the NFL in 6 years and was right on the money and hit Davis literally in the face for him to drop it 70 yards downfield. But you think he can't throw deep?

It is actually amazing to me how bad your takes consistently are, amongst the worst on the board just about every week all year long. Even in the LIVE BROADCAST the announcers said they didn't think Josh could see the defender because his view was blocked. Josh takes full accountability at all times, he is not going to say what ever he wants to say. He has always told it like it is and was the FIRST person to take the blame every time.

Didn’t realize Bills played a whole season in one game yesterday.

Well maybe that’s because coming off a loss is like Christmas for you given you pretty much stay in the negative lane all year.

Geezus…one loss against a stout defense and we went from SB favorite and most talented roster in the NFL to everyone but 2 guys are replaceable. That Beane and McD are not good enough. Make. It. Stop. The mental toughness of this board is at an all time low. Everything must be perfect or we suck and everyone should go. It’s crazy. Didn’t realize the Rams had a perfect season last year, or the Bucs the year before, or every SB champion in history. Shame on the Bills for not having a perfect season. Let’s clean house and rebuild.

I feel like only like 2% of the posters on this board right now even understand this info. Someone should pin this so the rest of people ready to jump off a cliff because we lost a game can process this info.

Make. It. Stop.

What are you even talking about? You replied to my post, I didn’t call you out or even mention you. I’ve never even heard of you until you posted at me lmao.