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Couldn’t agree more

This reads as his own comment like anyone on here would make, not that he has any inside info. This didn’t read at all to me that that he is hinting at anything or that there is a real internal issue. Just feels like people trying hard to make more of this than it is.

I’ve been saying the same thing. Everyone wants to blame McD or certain players. But I’ve watched Dorsey more than once completely abandon the run game despite it being effective in the first half once the second half starts. I’ve seen defenses adjust at halftime and Dorsey not. I’ve seen terrible play calling plague the second half. it makes no sense. First 7 games of the season we dominated the 3rd quarter, best in the NFL in point differential. Suddenly now it’s like last year again where we can’t get anything going in the 3rd quarter. Im not down on Dorsey, but I will say I’m disappointed in 4 areas right now: 1. Lack of adjustments in the 2nd half as we already discussed. 2. Consistently starting with Devin running well early in games and then completely abandons him, including giving other guys rush attempts or not running at all. I really thought he was going to more consistently involve the run game after how much our offense improved last year from the second half of the Bucs game to the end of playoffs once we got the run game consistently involved. 3. Lack of TE involvement in the pass game. We went from maybe seeing a lot of 2 TE sets to only sporadically using Knox in the passing game. With Dorsey’s history of playing with great TEs, I really expected him to use the position more as a weapon. Knox has been doing great when given chances and as a blocker, but without a threat from the slot right now, we need to involve Knox more in the pass game. 4. Lack of designed runs for Allen in specific situations. Daboll used WAY too many, Dorsey uses too few. There have been a number of times where a designed Allen run would have been a much better call than the play he chose. I don’t want to see Allen being used as a FB like Daboll did at times, but the vast majority of Allens rush yards this year are from him improvising. Which is a great thing, and how it really should be as that’s when he’s most dangerous. But at the same time, it’s like Dorsey forgets about how effective Allen can be a key situations with his legs and has taken that element out of the playbook. It’s like we over corrected in that department.

Wanna put money on it? Name any amount

Did I make any excuses for him? I said people throwing him under the bus with over the top comments on him And correction, he’s struggled in second half the last 3 games, he’s been very good still in the first half in all 3 games with at least 2 TDs in each

I didn’t say he didn’t have things to clean up, it’s ok to discuss where we need to be better. I’m talking about the people straight throwing him under the bus

Too bad I can’t say the same thing for some of the posters around here

I’m not gonna name names, but there are some pretty stupid comments about our QB around here right now. I’ve never seen a bigger group of ungrateful cry babies than a bunch of people around these parts the last few weeks. This guy lays it all on the line on every play. Yeah, he has had a handful of plays the past few weeks that are not what we are accustomed to seeing from him. But I see idiotic comments comparing him to Wentz, saying he isn’t living up to his contract, he’s been trash, etc etc. First, how about some appreciation he even played today, and WITHOUT pain killers in his elbow. How about how he was the only reason we were even in this game. How about how he didn’t even look to protect himself despite playing hurt while scrambling to all game trying to win. He’s a warrior on every play and played hurt today. How quickly y’all forget what life around used to be before we were blessed with Allen. How about rallying around our guy? Don’t have to make excuses for him, he doesn’t either. But the amount of people straight throwing him under the bus is pathetic. End of the day…despite the offensive miscues…We are essentially 2 missed FGs and a miracle catch by Jefferson (that might have been the greatest catch I’ve ever seen) from being undefeated. Despite missing half our defense in all 3 losses. When we were healthy we were destroying teams. Offense has had 3 bad second halves in a row, now it’s time for Dorsey and Allen to figure out what is going wrong in the second half and make adjustments. I for one have all the confidence in the world still in Josh that we will figure this out.

Defense did NOT give up 30 anyway. People keep saying that but one of their TDs was a defensive TD Terrible post

They need to fall regardless, Shakir should lead in snaps from this point on over McKenzie IMO

Huh? You take away the best player in the NFL from any team, ESPECIALLY when its a QB, and that is a terrible barometer to rate a team. No one player is more important in any team sport than the QB is in the NFL. We are playing a 7-1 Vikings team, win or lose it does not change how great of GM Beane has been. Sorry, this is not a good topic

Sweet see you next year then. Nothing more for you to see here. Season is over. Peace.

While I normally would back this logic, I will say the injury is a minor one to his throwing elbow. So don't think there is much chance of further injury to his specific injury if we used him in some 3rd and short, 4th and short, or goal line situations. Even though the most important thing is making a SB and winning it, we are still the #1 seed in the AFC only by a tie breaker, and we are only a half game up on our division while also being 0-2 in our division. So, this game is still important both in our quest for home field advantage as well as winning our division. And for that, I wouldn't be opposed to see Josh used creatively in a way that doesn't put his elbow injury at risk if we needed it this game.

Except Josh got hurt in the pocket trying to make a throw. Didn't have anything to do with our run game or Josh doing too much. We were in a last drive situation where we had to pass no matter what. Run game wouldn't ha changed that. But if you are saying, that it forces to get Dorsey to use the RB's more and spread the ball around more in the near term while Josh is recovering from the injury, well that could be one silver lining. However, there is no real bright side here IMHO. Having the heart and soul of our team and one of the best players in the NFL have a very dangerous injury to his elbow is not worth any silver lining. I would have rather hoped Dorsey made those adjustments off the film, not because Josh has an injury on his throwing elbow. In fact, my biggest concern thus far on Dorsey is the fact he hasn't made the necessary adjustments in the 2nd half's of the past 2 games. I want to know he can do that on his own more than do it because he had no choice.

I’m just saying Josh hit Diggs, then OL holding penalty over turned it. Josh hit Davis 70 yards down field he let it bounce off his face. Josh made the plays on that last drive, his teammates let him down on that drive was just my only point.

I don't disagree with this, they definitely can't put it all on Keenum. But we can win this game with Keenum. The key to this game will be ball control. The defense is going to need to get healthy as it can this week. Hopefully Poyer and Milano are back, seems like Groot is likely out. And if we can get Tre active for this game that would be great too, although not sure how well he will play in his first game back. But the D needs to limit the Vikings offense so Keenum and the offense can focus on ball control and moving the chains. We won't be getting the chunk yardage we get with Allen. We can't have regular 3rd and longs and expect to pick them up like we do with Allen. I would love to see us utilizing multiple RB's in the passing game, Knox and Shakir on al lthe underneath stuff. Just keep moving the chains.

Not Josh's fault on that though...phantom holding penalty overturning a great throw to Diggs then Davis dropped an absolute monster dime on a 70 yard bomb that no only is a gimme FG from there, but they had a shot at the endzone still to win the game too if Davis catches that instead of bouncing it off his face. I think I was more sick about that drop than I was on the Hopkins hailmary loss. To see our injured QB make that throw while rolling out to his left was mind blowing. Then to see Davis drop it was sickening. Reminded me when Josh got that impossible ball to Charles Clay and he couldn't make the catch against Miami and we lost that game. Except this throw was a dime, but both should have been caught and Josh should have 2 more wins on his resume.

I agree on the first down. My only point though was the offense was sputtering which kept putting our very short handed defense back on the field. So I think the defense is fine, it was just getting worn down by being on the field a lot and missing 4 guys amongst the best in the NFL at their positions and two young starters we lost for parts of the game in Groot in Elam. I am not overly concerned moving forward, we are still the best team in the league in points allowed by a wide margin. We just for the first time this year didn't get the offense going and score over 20 points ourselves.

Saying we can't take anyone lightly anymore (implying they took the Jets lightly) after a loss is a pet peeve of mine. Just because we lost a game doesn't mean McD, Frazier, and the team came in taking anyone lightly. Jets are 6-3 on the back of great defense and good ground game and a good coaching staff with a stout defensive background. Not like we lost to a bottom feeder team like Colts or Houston. This was a tough divisional rival, I have no doubt they took this game very seriously even though it didn't go our way.

Why over exaggerate? Here are the facts: #1 Seed in the AFC - And 2 missed FG's by Bass in games we were decimated by injuries keeping us from probably being 8-0 #1 scoring Defense in the NFL and by a wide margin of over 2 points per game to the next closest team #4 Defense in yards allowed #6th in rushing yards allowed The D wasn't bad against the Packers, we gave up 17 points in a game our offense couldn't stay on the field in the 2nd half. We played to stop the pass with a large multiple score lead in the 2nd half which opened up some rush opportunities which gave small plays and ate time. We won by 2 scores still. Against the Jets, the D was missing 2 main anchors in Poyer and Milano, to go with already missing Tre and Hyde and then we had injuries during the game to guys who started the game like Elam and then of course Groot. And yet we still only gave up 20 points. The issue was not the defense, it was the offenses inability to sustain drives and get anything going in the 2nd half. Our D, already severely short handed, couldn't get off the field and gave Jets more opportunities to play ball control and wear down the defense further. So all this panic everyone has is completely lacking the context of the past two games. I don't think people realize how close we are to being 8-0. It took some rare and extreme circumstances to lose the Miami game even though we completely dominated that game by every measurable standard. And then the Jets game, they made their long FG attempt, and we missed ours. Not to mention the absolute dime Josh dropped on Davis on last pass of the game he flat out dropped and bounced off his face. When we were healthy, we were annihilating teams most week and went into KC and beat them again. They guys we have been missing on D are not guys backups can just plug in and play up to their level...they are amongst the best at their positions in the league with guys like Milano, Hyde, Poyer, and Tre. Not to mention our young talent has missed time too. Now we got an elbow situation to monitor with Josh which is the scariest of all the injury situations and just hope it doesn't get worse if he tries to play through it. Just get healthy for the playoffs. We can do that, we will be the scariest team in either conference come playoff time.

hahaha oh man, this thread will always be gold. I refused to engage it in when it was up and just sat back and watched the comments as people fed the troll lmao. I miss ieatcrayonz lol...lots of other good peeps in there I don't think are around anymore like Lori

I dont know. As much as I want to see Cook succeed, he is really slow on his reads for lanes and has shown poor vision. Ive watched him miss so many open lanes to just take a path to get a couple more yards when he could have cut back and picked up a ton more. His field vision and awareness is very low right now. Granted, more snaps and experience can help this, but right now, his vision is substantially lower than Devins which is why Devin is much better at picking up tough yards in finding small lanes to get through. \ Devin is just faster the hole, and that is more important than break away speed

Ok this one got me. 👏😂 You win the internet today.

Did you try double jump

Haha saw this on twitter lol... Josh Allen Runner Game https://www.joshallen-runner.com