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If Safety is BPA, it’s certainly possible. But Bijan on the board at 27 would hands down make Bijan BPA

Top 5: 1. Brady 2. Montana 3. Mahomes (yes he is already that good) 4. Elway 5. Manning

If Bijan is on the board at 27, I can almost guarantee he will be the pick. Here is why: Beane made an offer on CMC, and he was linked to inquiring into other RB's during the season. So there is established interest there already, and more so now with the likely departure of Devin. He will be without question the BPA at 27 no matter how the draft falls if he remains on the board. I would expect that if we did take Bijan at 27, we likely go OL with 2 of our next 3 picks. HOWEVER: I do not expect Bijan to be there at 27.

That’s not because of Devin, that’s because we just don’t run much

He could start for a number of teams, and I think he will be signed as a starter for this next season by someone. Devin has a very good YPC average for his career and has developed into a good pass catcher (had the highest catch rate on the team most the year). He has done that on a team with no run game design, bad OL play, and OC's allergic to establishing the run too. He is a lot better than your post indicates. He isn't a top tier RB, but he will be a quality player for someone next year IMHO. If we used him all year last year like we did down the stretch and playoffs, he would have had 1400 yards rushing and 17 TD's based on the stats he was putting up in those games where he had at least 12 carries. He would have rushed for 1200 -1400 yards here both last year and this year if they just gave him an average of around 15 carries. And again, that is on a team with a bad OL. Personally, I think he could end up in Las Vegas if Jacobs leaves or maybe someone like Carolina, Saints, KC, TB, or Houston where he could either be brought in to start or at least compete to start. I am not saying he is a future pro-bowler, but he just isn't as bad as your OP suggests.

I get all that, and I never said the D was atrocious that game, just pointed out we did still blow a 2 score lead and didn't get the stop in OT. But it's also a pretty irrelevant part of this convo wouldn't you say? I mean, that was 4 years ago. The last 3 defensive performances, especially the last 2 with the #1 ranked D and 2nd ranked D respectively in the regular season are more than enough reason to move on from Frazier. There is irony here...you are defending the defense from over 4 years ago, which was before we spent several first and 2nd round picks on the defense and spent a butt load of money to retain or sign defensive players...and yet it was our best defensive performance of the last 4 playoff losses these past 4 years. Now here we are 4 years later, and after all these investments into the defense, having a top 2 defense the last 2 seasons, we still have given up 107 points and 1403 yards the past 3 losses to KC, KC, and Cincy. And the Cincy game was in bad weather and in Buffalo with several OL out. We are "supposed" to have this alleged "home field advantage" in bad weather at home, but even that didn't help Frazier and his defensive game plan that again completely failed for the 3rd straight year in the playoffs. I mean just watching the KC vs Cincy game, the defensive game plan so clearly better than anything Frazier has trotted out in the last 3 playoff losses. That is the issue...I have never been "fire this guy" kind of guy. There are times where it's been painfully obvious though that you can't just keep doing the same thing. Under Frazier, we fielded the #1 and #2 ranked defense in the past 2 regular seasons...that D got dominated by KC and Cincy still in those respective playoff losses. YET...the very next week last year, Cincy shutdown the KC offense that 2nd half to go to the Super Bowl, something we couldn't do. This year, KC and Cincy both held each others offenses in check a week after Cincy embarrassed our defense (again, as they were doing before Hamlin injury too). There is only one common denominator here and its Frazier. Yes I do know McD has his hands on this D too, but still, we need to bring in a new DC with new ideas to make some changes. Running it back is the definition of crazy, just doing the same things over again and expecting the same results.

That is why I more focus on the last 3 exits, especially with how bad the refs were that game against Houston. But we did still blow a 2 score lead...and while Milano missed that play, there were other plays the D gave up. In the last 3 seasons: KC: Defense was utterly out classed by KC in every way. KC: Gave up 42 points, including a TD and a FG in the final 1:50 of regulation and an opening drive TD in OT. Cincy: Defense was again completely outclassed by Cincy this time, just like it was being outclassed by Cincy the night Hamlin got hurt. Worse yet, this game was at home, in bad weather (where fans falsely believe we have an advantage, which we don't on either side of the ball), they had 3 backup offensive lineman in, and he was playing DB's 10 yards off the LOS on 3rd and short. So even if you excuse Houston game, what our defense has done in the last 3 playoff exits since is 100% a fireable performance. 107 points and 1403 yards in 3 playoff losses? And the worst of those offenses is easily the last 2 seasons where we were defensively ranked 1st (2021) and 2nd (2022) during the regular season.

It wasn’t just one football game. They looked equally as bad, if not worse, defensively vs Cincy the first partial game. And our team was not running smooth since the KC game. More importantly it’s been 4 straight bad playoff exits. And now we are likely losing multiple key starters this year and running back the same defensive scheme that has surrendered 107 points and 1403 to KC and Cincy the past 3 playoff losses the last 3 years. We don’t have a lot of cap space either to address current significant needs and potential holes from potential player losses this year like Poyer, Edmunds, Devin, and Morse. Not to mention our 2 most expensive defensive players are coming off ACL recovery or tears, and Von is doing it at age 34. So I think heading into the offseason we are still 3rd best team, but we are going to have more significant needs and holes that previous years with a tight cap. We are definitely behind KC and Cincy already. And Cincy has a lot of cap space to potentially widen the gap on us. Meanwhile, all 3 of our divisional opponents are currently sitting with more cap space to keep working to close the gap on us. Yes, we will be favorites to win our division, but it’s far from a sure thing next year. NOTE: If we bring Frazier back, which it looks like we are, then even with a great offseason we are still behind KC and Cincy. How any DC can keep his job after 4 consecutive defensive failures in the playoff is beyond me. Blew 2 score lead against Houston. Then gave up 107 points and 1403 yards to KC and Cincy last 3 years, and one of those game was a snow storm against a depleted OL (Cincy). Not to mention the 13 seconds and OT debacle last year.

I get where you are coming from, but that doesn’t account for his many many games with little to no impact. They aren’t using him that way every play if every game. And if they were using him a lot like that, then they are wasting his play anyway and just more reason why Frazier should be gone. And I’m pretty sure the play calls weren’t to let the opponent walk all over the defense all game the last 3 playoff losses. And that’s what happened. Hence the money is better spent elsewhere, this defensive scheme isn’t worth the investment, it’s not netting returns on the investment in the games that really matter. I’ve been all for keeping the defensive unit up for a while now. This last straw though of the pathetic showing by the D for the 4th straight year in a playoff loss has completely flipped my interest. Take the Poyer, Edmunds and Oliver money and put into the OL in multiple spots, and a new WR opposite Diggs.

Let me put it this way...the last 3 playoff losses, with Oliver at DT, we have given up 107 points and 1403 yards. Everyone on this D is replaceable...literally every single player. Not once has a defensive player stepped up and showed out individually in the last 3 playoff exits. I would not spend top end money on a single player on this defense right now, simply because it won't matter. Fraziers scheme sucks. Our DL was utterly dominated by mostly backup OL players against Cincy, and they looked just as bad the night Hamlin got hurt against Cincy. And Cincy is a team whose biggest achilles heel for the past 2 years has been the OL. Oliver can look great one game and then disappear for multiple games. He doesn't have the consistency for us to pay him IMO. If I am Beane, I am looking to trade him this offseason and get some value back in either draft capital, player(s) or some combo of both. I really wanted him to be the guy to anchor down the DL long term, but he just is wayyyyy too inconsistent and has been easily taken out of the games in our playoff losses.

No. If you need me to explain why, then you clearly didn't watch this NFL season or the playoffs.

Bahahahaha this is so stupid. Peyton is the most overrated Coach I’ve ever seen. He struggled to even make the playoffs and missed them many times with Prime Drew Brees throwing for near or over 5000 yards. Broncos in the past 12 months have now invested 3 first round picks (two of which are top nine picks), 3 second round picks, a 5th round pick, 3 players (Including two who were very good starters for Seattle this year) and a butt load of money for: An old Russel Wilson and an overrated coach. That is without question the worst use of draft capital (not to mention the other resources like players and cap space from Wilson’s deal) I have seen since Ditka traded his whole draft for Ricky Williams or since Minnesota sent all those picks to Dallas for that insane moron Herschel Walker. You can rebuild a franchise with all those picks, cash, and players. Yet they chose to spend it on Wilson on the downside of his career and a HC whose record is underwhelming considering he had the 2nd most prolific passer in NFL history most in his prime during his career as a HC. This is why I kept telling all the ridiculous posts on here there was ZERO percent chance Peyton was coming here because Beane would never be so stupid to trade that kind of capital to get an overrated HC. For all that offense, they didn’t win much and didn’t make the Super Bowl but one time (during hurricane Katrina) the lone season they had motivation and actually had a good defense to go with the good offense.

If people can’t take their unbiased hat off and take an honest look at where we are at and where our divisional opponents are then I don’t know what to tell them. Everything you wrote is spot on. I would add the Pats are a very good rushing team too. A real OC and some off-season upgrades to receiving group CBs make them a legit playoff contender. The other thing people don’t think about (outside the division) is that Cincy still has a rookie QB deal, and will have a lot of cap space this year to get even better. Bills face KC and Cincy this next season again and still have the 6 divisional games, all of which (when healthy) could prove to be legit playoff contenders and tough opponents next year with the right offseason. And along with all that, Bills have some real glaring holes to address like OL and WR while on a tight cap. And we are looking at losing some key players potentially to FA (Poyer, Edmunds, Devin) that will create more holes. Then there is Morse, he is a candidate to potentially retire between age and concussions. And finally, our two highest paid defensive players are coming off ACL injuries (Tre and Von). We will be a double digit win team still, but the divisional title is far from a sure thing IMHO. We need to find the right pieces in FA and land some good finds in the draft to increase the odds we remain the big dogs of the AFCE.

Kind of expected this…he is the GOAT, and will be interesting to see how he does in the booth.

I think there are ways it could be balanced more, but a separate cap isn’t the answer. It greatly benefits teams with great QBs while doing nothing for teams with rookie contract QBs or lower tier QBs.

Miami and Jets are already tough opponents, and without a huge QB contract, they will have room to make more moves than us. If Jets land a QB like a decent to good QB they will be a very good team, and all signs points to them making a push to get one. Pats have a very good defense. They also are a good running team. Adding a real OC and maybe adding some receiving weapons could make them a legit playoff contender this year between that D and run game.

LMAO at PFF...Poll every GM and Coach in the NFL and Kromer is at or near the top of their list. I will trust in that over anything PFF has to say. Our OL wasn't very talented, and our OC was not very good at developing an offensive scheme or identity. The OL coach has to coach within the offensive scheme and game plan that is being implemented with the personnel he is given.

Wow thanks, that is some high praise there so thank you kind sir Totally agree, McD is safe today, but I think if McD runs it back with Frazier and Dorsey then this next year is his last year to get to the big show. If he comes up short again, all 3 will be gone and Beane will start his first coaching search as a GM.

Earlier this season I would have said sign Edmunds. He absolutely had his best year and would be worth that investment. HOWEVER...What is the point given Frazier's defensive showings the last 3 exits? With both Poyer and Edmunds...our defense under Frazier has given up 107 points and 1403 yards (36 PPG, 470 yards PPG) in our last 3 playoff exits...not to mention, all the money and draft picks also invested over those 3 years in the defense. It has NOT helped, and our D has been embarrassingly bad in back to back KC losses and now this Cincy loss. If having these guys doesn't help come playoff time, then the money vested there is a waste. Josh needs help, he is taking way too many hits in the pocket or under duress and is trying to score on every throw because of it. So now, I am all in on investing in Allen and the offense this year. DISCLAIMER: If we do move on from Frazier (I doubt it though), then I might lean back to signing Edmunds and give the new DC the right tools to tweak this defense to be better.

Not sure how you can say if Hamlin situation doesn't happen we win the #1 seed. In the Hamlin game, Cincy was moving the ball with even more embarrassing ease than in the playoffs. There was not a single minute between the Hamlin game and postseason game where we remotely looked like the better team. I get Bills have started behind early and then went on to win 5 times in the regular season. But we just played Cincy a whole game and they dominated every aspect of this football team. Sure, it's certainly possible we may have won that first game because Allen and the offense would have had a better game not playing in bad weather like the playoff game. And when you have Allen you will always have a chance. But in the 2 games our defense was dominated by Cincy and they were on their way to taking a 2 score lead in Cincy before Hamlin injury. Now, I agree we are a legit threat moving forward, but I disagree that we are one of the top teams at this moment. We have a slew of weak spots to fill and several FA's that likely create new holes. Our 2 best players on Defense still under contract (Tre and Von) are coming off ACL injuries. And our biggest competition in the AFC outside of KC have cap space to keep getting better while we are tight on the cap. AFCE might well be the toughest division in football next year, and we also play KC and Cincy. Going into next year, the cream of the crop is going to be KC and Cincy and we will be in that next tier until we can prove we belong back in the convo as a top AFC team. Im not being negative, I am just being unbiased and realistic about where we currently sit moving forward. And if both Frazier and Dorsey are here next year, then I think that will be the biggest mistake of the offseason and I believe it may cost McD his job next year. I just don't see us getting past both KC and Cincy with those 2 coordinators. Fraziers D is such a bad style against teams like Cincy and KC. Yes we can still beat them, but his defensive scheme makes it so much harder and puts all the pressure on Josh to be Superman to do it. Even when Josh played one of the best games in NFL playoff history, we still lost thanks to Fraziers defense giving up 17 points in like 2 minutes to end the game.

I never said fire McD, so not sure where you are getting that from. I said its time to move on from Frazier after 107 points and 1403 yards surrendered in the last 3 consecutive playoff losses, plus 13 seconds debacle and OT collapse. I can't think of another coach with that kind of playoff record in 3 straight seasons that has kept his job. And really its 4 straight years because his D blew a 2 score lead in the 2nd half against Houston too 4 years ago. You only get so many legit shots at the SB...Fraziers defensive scheme is a BIG reason why we haven't gotten over the hump. We keep upgrading his personnel on defense too, and he keeps giving the same result. Dorsey IMHO sucks. He was completely clueless on how to use the roster properly, terrible situational awareness in his play calling, and utter lack of creativity in his scheme. Not to mention, he was worse at running the ball than Daboll was.

I don't think its that bleek, We will still win 10-12 games next year IMHO, but that may have us mid pack in the AFC instead of the conference leader. McD called a squib...ST Coordinator then screwed up and told everyone but Bass, who was warming up at the net. ST Coordinator stepped down rather than be fired and took the same position with the Jags.

Id rather sign Foreman

Diggs was not the issue, he did not fade. Allen's elbow injury was more of an issue that many think Dorsey's offense was not creative and didn't scheme guys open. Allen and Diggs got a lot of their production off improvising. Defenses figured out how to defend the Bills offense once GB put the blueprint out there. The OL was bad, and Allen saw his comfort behind the line disrupted We couldn't run the ball These are all the reasons we saw his numbers dip IMHO.

I wouldn't frown at signing him, he may be motivated too by Kelce now tying his TD record in the postseason. I wouldn't see this as an end all be all solution, but I think he can still offer enough to be a good player for this team on the right deal.