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No offense here, but why do people only focus on the 13 seconds of the KC game? Our defense gave up a TD and a FG in under the final 2 minutes of that game and then laid down for another easy TD in OT on its way to giving up 42 points to a team that would go on to lose the next week only scoring only 24 points against the 16th ranked Defense. Buffalo had the #1 ranked defense that year, and yet the defense was dominated. Bengals 16th ranked defense dominated the Chiefs offense in the 2nd half the next week and allowed only 3 points in the entire second half. Buffalo and Cincy both had the same number of sacks on the season too at 42, so you can't even say their defense was better at getting to the QB. Our #1 ranked defense gave up 3 scores in less than 2 min of the end of regulation and opening drive of OT. Lets not forget, Frazier and what was the #1 ranked defense at that time gave up another FG in less time, 12 seconds, at the end of the half again this year to KC. It was far more than 13 seconds with Frazier. In all our playoff losses since Frazier has arrived, we have given up an average of 152 yards rushing per game in those losses, and all but one team (Jax) was a lowly ranked rushing team. This years embarrassment was while Frazier fielded the #2 ranked defense. And Hyde and Von are not valid excuses, despite that being a popular excuse. Hyde missed most the season and Von missed almost half of it. Yet we still fielded the #2 ranked defense on the season. Them missing didn't plummet our defense into the bottom half of the league, it still managed to remain the 2nd ranked Defense. 3 straight embarrassing performances by the defense in playoff losses, surrendering 107 points to teams that would combine for 53 points in their next 3 games (all losses). I honestly don't know of any other DC in the league that would survive that streak of games. It is the same reason Frazier has zero HC interest despite the team trying to sell him as a HC candidate hard. In fact, his HC candidacy has decreased each year until it reached ice cold zero this year. And for good reason given his last HC job was a flop and his playoff resume of defensive collapses.

Better question: When are you gonna get a new schtick?

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To be fair…How many of those coaches would have supported taking Allen over Rosen and Lamar? And of those that did, how many would have successfully over saw his development from Raw and widely predicted bust into a quarter Billion dollar super star? Easy to say any coach can win with who Allen is now, but that’s not how Allen entered the league. And McD and the other coaches McD hired over saw that development.

Which is exactly why I don’t think it will ever happen and basically the end of the Frazier era. Which is all good news to me

Found Waldo...took like 4 seconds. Yolo is proving to be more elusive though 😁

It wouldn't surprise me if the Bills look into a trade for Brandin Cooks. Beane mentioned a trade as an option at WR multiple times when fielding multiple questions around WR draft strategy. To be fair, he also mentioned free agency too. But I think someone like Cooks to put out there with Diggs and Davis is going to intrigue Beane, and the cost to facilitate that trade will be relatively cost friendly in terms of draft compensation. I mean look at what Cooper went for last year. They can make the numbers work as well on a deal like this.

Agree...I would even go as far as flat out say No, and this is absolutely the end of Frazier in Buffalo. Beane even alluded to the fact he wouldn't be back without directly saying he wouldn't be back when they asked him about that.

I mean he is not going to publicly shame him...what else is he supposed to say? He has however talked a lot about getting more playmakers and guys who are great at YAC, something Davis has not been good at

Hard pass. Mentally weak and not very good. So many better options. The only thing he brings to the table in terms of fit in Buffalo is he can scramble with his legs. But that is not even close enough on a team that is a high volume passing team.

0% chance that Huntley, coming off a pro bowl, is going to want to sign with a team with 0% chance to place outside of injury. Everyone can cross Huntley off any list for the Bills because he is not coming here. I am not saying Huntley is a high quality starter, because he is not, he was a pro bowler in the way Tyrod was in Buffalo. But...Huntley is going to believe he can be and at the very least want a place he can compete to start if he doesn't find someone who is willing to sign him outright as the starter. None of those things are happening in Buffalo behind Allen.

While agree Beane is a straight shooter on many things, he isn't on all things, nor should he be. When Farwell botched the call in the 13 second debacle, they story was Farwell left on his own to take a step backwards in his career making a lateral move to a lesser team. Neither Beane nor McD would directly detail the depths of this decision even though it was publicly known Farwell made a mistake during that sequence. But rather than be made a scape goat, he was able to step down and take another job. And this is all understandable, no credible or good GM is going to air the dirty laundry behind the scenes. Not to the public or to the rest of the organization, which is why its irrelevant another poster here supposedly heard the same thing about it being Fraziers choice. Head coordinators trying to get HC jobs don't just take a year off from SB contending rosters, especially coaches coming off #1 and #2 ranked seasons for their units. Nothing about this story appears to be the "full" story. Lets not forget, the defense has been atrocious in 3 straight playoff losses. This year, Jonw Wawrow reported that during the game McD was visibly upset and yelling presnap when he saw the defenders 10 yards off the LOS on 3rd and 4 and wanted them to move up. Beane directly references this play in the end of season presser too. And McD already has had to take away play calling duties before from Frazier which resulted in a significant and immediate improvement from the defense. Everything about this sounds like McD was going to be more involved in the defense again, which is essentially the same as another demotion to Frazier and would certainly hurt his HC chances further that were already ice cold. And I think its substantially more likely Frazier took exception to this and was facing accepting it, getting fired, or quitting. Both McD and Beane seem to have a great respect for Frazier as a person, they are always talking him up for HC opportunities. So this weird story seems more like Frazier electing to "take a year off" to mitigate potential damage to his HC aspirations rather than get demoted, fired, or have to outright quit and the team being supportive of that out of respect for him and his personal goals.

Wow this is awesome news!!!! I’m looking forward to seeing what some new thinking and energy can do with the defense.

Cant compare todays deals with the larger cap to deals other players signed already in the past, they are not equally comparable.

People realize there are more than 1 round per draft right? Why is everything always about the first round pick? Especially when drafting late. Most of the top 20 WR's in football were not taken in the first round, it is not the only place to find a WR. Let the board fall the way it falls, we have plenty of holes on this team to consider with our pick, take the BPA. If its a WR, great...but it could also be an OL, RB, or even a defensive player if we suddenly have some big holes to fill. But to just say it must be a WR and then have to reach to get a WR at our pick would be a mistake. Personally, I think it will more than likely be an offensive lineman the way I think the first round board falls that will be the BPA. However, if Bijan does last to our pick, I have a hard time seeing anyone else that would still be on the board and be ranked higher than him.

Anyone who thinks this is about anything other than money is clearly mistaken. He knows this is his last contract to get any more real money, and if Buffalo was to offer him what he would get somewhere else, he would absolutely stay in Buffalo. And honestly, all this talk by him sounds a lot like a guy angling to get the Bills to pony up and make him a proper offer. Don't try and drum up some lame conspiracy theory and all this other junk. You need more gears in your gear box other than negative gear. You try and paint the most negative situation with every story.

Lmao, I mean it’s happened many times. But ok lmao

Great post, and something I have been echoing for a while as well. You will also find they also only refer to first round picks as "premium" picks but in any other thread on any other topic will refer to 2nd and 3rd picks as premium or high value too. Especially in draft threads, trade threads, etc. But when they want to insist on the team only focused on defense, suddenly 2nd and 3rd round picks have no value and only the first round picks matter. They also will ignore that these same people wanted us to draft Oliver and also ignore the context of each draft on who was on the board, priorities for the team, etc. When we took Groot, DE and pass rush was our biggest achilles heal on the team and he was their BPA on their board. When we selected Elam, CB was the weakest position on the whole team. It is not like they are making luxury picks with these first rounders. And you don't have to leave the first page of this thread to find someone already doing that. Literally completely ignoring the heavy investment of 2nd and 3rd rounders into the offense compared to the defense and now focusing on comparing first round to 6th and 7th round picks instead to try and manipulate the info to support his opinion of its been defensive heavy approach.

Again, you are missing the point. Just because Buffalo, and now Cowboys and Ravens as you put it have done good jobs at avoiding cap jail does not in any way mean cap jail doesn't exist for teams who do not properly manage it. That is like someone saying that just they haven't fallen off a bicycle and gotten hurt that no one is it risk of falling off a bike and getting hurt. The logic of it not yet happening to someone specific therefore somehow means it doesn't happen at all is not correct. No one is arguing that cap maneuvers are not possible to free up more space. But to say that no team is at risk of creating cap problems down the road if they mishandle how they do those, player contracts, roster decisions, etc is incorrect.

Just because Buffalo is not in a severe cap situation to be labeled "cap jail" (thanks to intelligent moves by Beane during his tenure here) does not mean "cap jail" does not exist. Plenty of teams have experienced it and suffered consequences as a result over the years.

I dont think its that dire, but I do think this is a critical offseason. We still have a very good roster, but I am more concerned with 2 coordinators. They are not being improved upon, and I just lack confidence in both of them. Dorsey at least has potential to improve, Frazier I fear is just always going to have the wrong approach in the playoffs when we face teams like KC and Cincy. But thats just it...you are talking "extensions"...those don't affect the cap until after their current deals expire. So doesn't matter if they hand them a truck of money this year, Burrow still has a year left and a 5th year option left on his deal, and Chase has 2 years and a 5th year option left. They have the flexibility to push their cap hits out 2 and 3 years from now if they want.

And don't forget, this year Cincy has a ton of cap space too to try and improve further and potentially widen the gap they established by looking like the better team in partial game and playoff game we played them this year. It is why I have said this is IMHO the most important offseason for Beane during the Allen era. We are going to need him to make good decisions during free agency and also a strong draft if we want to stay ahead of all the teams in our own division and keep pace with KC and Cincy.

That is the only thing you took away from that post? Lol...I didn't say he was a focal point, but he was part of the DL rotation backing up Oliver. And honestly, what does it matter, you are complaining about a guy who was brought back on a 1 year deal as the #4 DT behind Oliver, Jones, and Settle whose primary role would be to backup Oliver specifically. It literally had no impact on the cap preventing us from signing or retaining any other players last year or this offseason.

I think you are being a bit overly harsh here. All teams sign guys like these. And many of these guys were the early days where Beane was both a new GM and in the midst of having to clean up a mess of a roster and cap use by his predecessor. And many of these were short term or 1 year deals with no future cap ramifications brought in to help field a competitive team without creating cap issues that would prevent the team from improving in the subsequent years. Not to mention, several played key roles in high ranked offenses and defenses that helped us win our division, reach the playoffs, and win playoff games. Guys like Morse, Sanders, Beas, Brown, Williams all started or played key roles in our offense that has been amongst the highest scoring in the league the past 3 seasons. Guys like Addision and Star were starters on a defense that was ranked #1 in the NFL their last year here, and Phillips was good contributor for us this year on a defense than ranked #2 in the NFL despite the crazy slew of injuries to the defense. Is every signing a home run, absolutely not, but no GM has a perfect record. But Beane has a better track record than most.

Yeah, this is essentially what I was saying. And Tennessee is a great example of poor cap management costing them where as I feel like Beane is among the better GM's in the league at being smart about it.