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Yup, exactly my thoughts as well, totally agree with all of this. I mean McD has a case for COY right now (he wont win it, but he has a case) after exceeding just about everyones expectations, which I would bet money includes the Bills in house as I seriously doubt they came into the season expecting to go 13-3 and lock down the 2 seed at this stage. Especially with the perceived schedule we had coming in during a season with so much change with a mini reset. But with exceeding reg season expectations come raised expectations in the postseason. So despite his regular season accomplishments, another disappointing early exit at home would absolutely put him on the hot seat, but his over achieving regular season likely buys him next year. I mean all 3 of our losses were to playoff teams, so I think if we got upset at home early in the playoffs there would be some built in benefit of the doubt he would get where the whole "transition year" comes back into play where they can say he "overachieved" in the regular season with a team that didn't have all the pieces to consistently beat the caliber of teams in the postseason.

You must not have been on much in the offseason and missed the quietly got better thread too ha He got way way way more heat in the offseason than in season. In fact, he was pretty good the first 3 weeks where he affected almost every TD scored running and passing either through blocking or receiving. Only time he really took any heat in season was the Houston game, but it was totally misguided heat, not only on that play, but that game in general. For example, that Texans play was more on Josh Allen in what was Allens worst game as a pro both throwing the ball and on his decision making (and the worst game in NFL history for comp% if I am not mistaken too). It was a poorly thrown ball that had way too much air on it, was thrown too far and more importantly thrown off target to the wrong shoulder on the outside. That ball was put in the most difficult spot for any WR to track and catch that ball when Mack had been wide open for what should have been an easy toss and catch. It was not that Mack looked one way and should have looked another, it was Josh made a poor throw and put Mack in a highly difficult position to both track and make that play...That is a hard adjustment and catch for most WR's.

No disrespect, but this happens every weekend all across the NFL. WR's all the time will point up when they want to tell the QB put it higher, I mean I have seen this gesture a 1000 times. This is 1 million percent in no way showing up the QB, its completely standard, regular, and common communication on the football field. I have both done this gesture in a football game as a receiver and I have had other receivers do this to me in a football game as well when I was in as QB. I am actually stunned the OP actually posted this thread and hasn't taken it down yet. This thread couldn't be more off base with what was happening or how common this gesture is.

If we lose first round, I think McD absolutely should be and will be in the hot seat. That being said, I don't know if that would lead to him getting fired or not this year as being in the hotseat doesn't always equate to getting fired either.

Mack Hollins is trending on twitter...for...basically being awesome haha. Still can't believe all the whining and crap that was piled on this guy during the offseason by a lot of posters around here.

With todays win, Josh Allen now has the most wins of any QB in NFL history (75) through their first 7 seasons. He already held most total TD's and most total Yards of any QB in NFL history as well. MVP.

Maybe the worst thread post of all time...thats quite the accomplishment

Wow what a catch!!!

Houston game was Allen’s fault

LMAO Romo said there’s nothing to worry about kicking off with 13 seconds. He needs to watch more Bills games apparently

Let’s let it go…and agree to disagree. I mean it’s been beaten to death and I don’t have the time ot energy to keep breaking down everything you are wrong about again.

Josh had Ty wide open for a big first down and gain but elected to heave it a mile instead. Keon should have caught that but Allen still needs to look more than just deep on those extended plays for easier throws

Much better than Cooper. Much better than Cooper. Little better than Cooper, but he is also used completely different than Cooper and not really comparable as he runs the ball a lot to as a RB Much better than Cooper Little better than Cooper and yet Cooper has always been considered in a tier higher than Sutton Also better than Cooper Cooper is worse than every WR on your list, some by a noticeable difference. Exactly what I said. Slightly worse than Cooper, but Tate was not in Coopers calls of WR either, he was at least a tier or 2 lower. What are you talking about, you literally 100% confirmed my entire point. You listed a bunch of WR's who were either his peer or worse and Cooper was literally worse than every single one of them, several by a lot. Come on man, not even the same era. Comparing receivers and their yardage production from 30 years ago to today is a worthless excecise. I mean you just proved everything I said correct, so thanks

True, and honestly, I don't think there is any scheme that benefits from being small up front.

What part about my original post did you miss where I said if he wants legit WR1 money you don't pay him? The entire point I made was that he was not in that class and yet you seem to be arguing the same thing, which is even more puzzling to why you are arguing in the first place when you seem to agree. But please stop telling me things you "think" as if they are fact, when I actually did the work and checked the facts. Amari's boom or bust rate is higher than a lot other WR's, so its really annoying when people who did not do the work sit here and argue against the work. Doesn't matter if you believe it or not...but the facts are that Coopers degree of variance has been higher than his peers throughout his career. Its not an opinion, its math.

Yeah, that’s a good point about Gabe, I was counting him as netting us a 3rd pick in the 4th round before the season began. So yeah you are right, probably 5 now taking that into consideration. I still wouldn’t hate 2 picks within those 5 going towards the DL, but I bet and hope at least one does.

Depending on how the board falls, this would not surprise me, especially if one is an edge and the other interior. I would be all for it, but only if the board falls right, don't want to reach for a 2nd guy or anything like that. If we came away with 2 DL guys and a WR in our first 3 picks in the first 2 rounds I wouldn't be mad at it. Especially since offensively all we really need heading into the offseason is probably another WR. Shore up our trenches on the defense should be a top priority. I also wouldn't hate signing in FA or making a trade for a proven stud on the DL if one is available. I haven't checked to see what the FA market looks like next year, so no idea if there is a good option maybe there. But there is always a potential trade target if someone like say Garret comes available or something.

Yeah, Lamar is having a season that would be a run away MVP seasons in many seasons past. There is no reason to diminish that. But Lamar also blew the Chiefs game missing a wide open game winning TD before the toe play. He also had some struggles in moments in some of the other losses too. Allen meanwhile has elevated what was supposed to be his worst set of weapons and an offensive step back all year to the #2 seed yet again and if not for a few lucky breaks (like Lamar blowing the Chiefs game) Bills would be the 1 seed and not the 2 seed. Meanwhile Lamar and the Ravens have dropped 5. Last year, they said it wasn’t about stats, so Josh couldn’t win it even though he was probably a slight edge over Lamar for more deserving. This year, it’s clear it’s Josh. And if stats weren’t the important factor last year, they shouldn’t be this year. But what concerns me is if Allen had a slow game again this week…voters have recency bias memories, so every week Allen doesn’t post gaudy stats and Lamar does hurts Allen’s chances even while still winning. And it’s pretty likely Josh sits or only plays a quarter/half the final week too. So let’s hope Allen smokes the Jets, if he does, the MVP will be his. If he doesn’t then I worry it’s going to be a close vote that could go either way.

Ozzie is a first ballot HoF GM, has a case as the best GM maybe ever.

This is a big part of the problem. When you are undersized as much as we are in places in our front 7 it’s going to cause problems and inconsistencies. You want to win in this league you better win in the trenches first. We are consistently winning in the trenches on offense but not on defense. Which is why I sincerely hope we invest 2 picks into beef on the defensive side in the draft, grabbing at least one between our 6 picks in the first 4 rounds, if not both if the right guys are there. I think WR and DL should be the priority heading into the draft. Obviously FA or Trades could change that, but as of now those should be our top 2 priorities IMO.

No he is not spot on. I’ve done the variance on other WRs and Amari is worse, especially in the really bad games under 40, 30, and 20 yards. I’ve said this about Cooper his whole career. It’s why both the Raiders and Dallas traded him. Raiders didn’t want to pay him what he was going to get as a free agent and Dallas over paid him as an elite WR1 and then he was wildly inconsistent and didn’t live up to the contract. So no, MDH is right there is variance…but I never said there wasn’t variances. He keeps doing “spot checks” on partial data then claiming Cooper is on par with other top WR1’s and it’s just not correct. Again, Cooper was a good add, he brought a dimension we needed. But we are talking about signing him back as a FA here. And he is on the wrong side of 30, drops a lot of passes over his career, and is statistically more likely to put up less than 40 yards than he is more than 70 yards. And that data was generated during the prime of his career, he is again now on the wrong side of 30. In 4 of his last 6 games he has a TOTAL of 25 yards for an avg of 6.25 ypg playing with Josh Allen. So the point in my original point stated you sign him back if it’s a cost friendly deal. If he wants legit WR1 type money it’s a hard pass, you can replicate his weekly decoy status and occasional relevant game elsewhere for cheaper, like the draft where we have 3 picks in first 2 rounds plus 3 more in round 4.

End thread here 👆 😂

Your comprehension is at an all time low…it’s not that there is variance, it’s the extremes of his variance. Hence why I provided you with all the data you are ignoring and desperately trying to skew and cherry pick (which is your total schtick and par for the course with you) in a desperate attempt to pull the foot from your mouth.

Because this convo has gone on and on, the actual point has been lost. The point is the significance in Amaris variance, not that there is variance in the first place. I mean let’s not be ridiculous and act like I was remotely suggesting there should be no variance, that’s absurd. Cooper has 45% of his career games under 50 yards. The number of games he has under 50, under 40, even under 20 yards is higher than what top end WR1s should have. So no, he’s not spot on. I never once stated there should be no variance, it’s football, of course their variance. I’ve talked about the DEGREE of variance with Cooper. And it’s factual, there is no denying the statistical facts of the boom or bust weekly variance of Coopers career. And back to my original point…you sign him if it’s a reasonable friendly deal. If he wants legit WR1 money…you don’t over pay a guy on the wrong side of 30 who drops too many passes and disappears for too many games.

Haha thanks for being so predictable…you won me a bet with my wife that this nonsense is how you would reply. She thought no way you would still try after it was clearly laid out for you. This I agree on. Which is why I said he was a good midseason add…and also why I said you resign Cooper if it’s a cost friendly deal. If he wants legit WR1 money it’s a pass. You don’t pay a guy legit WR1 money who has too many drops and disappears as often as he does, and who is also on the wrong side of 30. You left out what he averages in the other games, how many games under 50 yards, how many yards under 40 yards, etc. Go compare how many games Chase has under 20 yards compared to how many Copper has. So for someone accusing of manipulating numbers, you just did half the work to manipulate a point.