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Reality...our secondary's weak spot is speed. If Tua plays, they are certainly more dangerous just having guys like Waddle and Hill, even though we should, and likely still, beat them handedly. Without Tua, it will be like last years Pats game, and curb stomp. What delusional Dolphin fans don't understand, is the one game they beat us in like forever (in Miami this year) is that the Bills utterly dominated every aspect of that game statistically. The only reason we lost that game was a botched snap before halftime by our backup long snapper costing us a FG. But...more importantly, by the end of that game, we had 14 starters or guys who started that game in place of starters either not play, leave the game for good hurt, or go through heat exhaustion and leave the field multiple times. We had to trot out a 3rd string TE with on the OL just to finish that game who had a torn ACL and still played 5 snaps on that torn ACL because we didn't have enough OL to put on the field. And still...we could have won the game if those exhausted OL could have gotten down on the line 1 to 2 seconds quicker where we could spike and kick the short game winning FG. But these Dolphin fans like to over look all that and just pretend they decisively beat us...heat, injuries and ourselves beat us that day, the Dolphins had actually very little to do with it.

His numbers are better because he’s been the #2 all season, so it’s due to the target volume. Last year he was never really a number 2 WR with guys like Sanders and Cole here. And he is under performing significantly of expectations and reliability. I almost cringe now when we throw to him because he is so unreliable.

I don’t think Lamar will play next week. Reports he still has bad swelling in his knee right now still. Doesn’t sound like a guy who is a lock to play, and for his own self interest probably shouldn’t play given the state of his contract.

Take away this game (where Hamlin didn’t play) and Hamlin was the leading tackler for the Bills this season. Yes he is no Hyde, but he had value.

Regular season doesn’t matter in the playoffs. And they played us close in one of those losses. Again, I expect to win. But I’m just saying it’s silly to disregard them as if this will be some cake walk.

Im no Debbie downer, but if you think this matchup isn’t a tough one then you haven’t been paying attention to where the Bills have shown themselves to be vulnerable. I believe we will win this game, but there is no question we have the absolute hardest road to the SB in the NFL right now. Our beat up secondary has to go through Dolphins WRs then likely through Cincy’s to likely face off against Mahomes and KC again. Yes we can win all 3 if that plays out like that, but we are down to our 3rd string safety and Tre isn’t all the way back yet and lacks the burst against those fast WRs. Mac Jones just out scored our offense today 24-21. We can’t bank on ST TDs every week. We need someone besides Diggs to step up on offense to help Josh out. So again, we should win this game, but to mock anyone who sees it as a tough matchup seems off base to me. It is a tough matchup, and no gimme.

As bad as that was, not getting a single foot in bounds on that sideline throw was inexcusable. I mean he should have easily had both and didn’t get one.

Agreed, it’s almost like he has regressed this year in several areas.

He isn’t worth the investment. I’d rather draft his replacement this year than pay him any where near what he will get on the open market. And this is from someone who thought he was going to have a big year. But he has shown me he is a low end number 2 WR probably better suited as a 3rd WR. His drops, lack of awareness at times, bad feet, and lack of consistently getting open has all just been too much this year to consider paying him like a #2 WR.

There was definitely an out clause if Colts were going to need the venue or the deal was concluded once they knew that even if they made the playoffs they wouldn’t be in position as a high enough seed to host the AFCCG. I mean that was pretty apparent a while ago with the Colts.

Lol, I assure you the players don’t give 2 s**ts about those articles by people trying to get clicks and reads. The biggest issue is we won’t have cap space to bring many people to Buffalo despite a lot of players may want to come here. Von Miller contract coupled with Allens deal kicking in already and guys like Poyer, Edmunds, Oliver, Singletary having major contract decisions to make are going to keep us from being very aggressive in the free agent pools.

What about this crazy idea: Move struggling Tre to Tarons spot and try Taron at Safety. Then start 2 of Dane, Elam or Benford at CB. This solves the bigger problem, Tre struggling on the outside. Yes I know it will never happen…so don’t flip out lol. Just more making the point, I think Tre right now still remains the bigger liability and the most exploitable than who starts at FS when it comes to facing teams with dangerous WRs like Cincy, Mia, etc.

What is confusing to you? Eagles were 1, Bills were 2 the week before/ Then Eagles got dropped 3 spots and everyone else bumped up one.

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All good, and I dont disagree with the challenges of an in season move like this. And as someone else pointed out, Tre is not a good tackler which is another valid reason of why this may not work out. To be honest, this is more about whether Tre should be starting at CB right now, or should we start 2 guys from Elam, Dane, and Benford. Tre has been the most exploitable weak spot on the defense since coming back. Cincy came right at him and he drew an embarrassing PI where he was badly torched on first play and then a couple plays later got worked on an easy route for a TD. Teams smell blood and we have a slew of dangerous WR's potentially to face in the playoffs.

Haha, already edited it...caught it after I posted...meant to say for Cheifs to lose

I was pretty set against moving Tre to safety...but given the circumstances of both Hyde and Hamlin out coupled Tre struggling in coverage and being probably our most exploitable corner right now with his lack of speed or explosion, maybe its not such a crazy idea to slide him over to FS and let Elam, Dane, Taron, and Benford handle the CB duties. If Hamlin was still out there, I wouldn't suggest this. But I would think Tre might fare as well or better at safety then our 3rd string FS at this point. And I do think our pass D will be better with Dane and Elam starting outside right now than Tre. Tre has made some plays, but he is also very exploitable with his lack of burst and we are set to potentially face teams like Miami and Cincy in playoffs who have some dangerous WR's to account for.

The only thing Bills fans need to know is we have to beat the Pats. If we do that, then that 100% guarantees we either play the AFCCG on a neutral site (KC beat Raiders) or we have home field and a bye week (Raiders beat Chiefs). Saturday cheer for the Chiefs to lose to the Raiders...Sunday all that matters is we beat the Pats.

Isn't this his excuse everywhere he flames out? I want to be somewhere that believes in me? At some point, his self belief needs to show up on the field and he needs to earn the belief of his peers and coaches. He has continuously under performed to expectations, and GROSSLY under performed to he value he places on himself that he tried (and failed) to secure in the open market now multiple times. He isn't a bad player, but he also isn't what he thinks he is. And clearly he has not been enduring himself to teams, coaches, or locker rooms given that he keeps wearing out his welcome and then doesn't find much of a market for himself. Pass...this isn't the kind of energy/personality this locker room needs right now, and quite frankly he isn't doing anything Shaq Lawson can't do who has had a very good season and deserves all the minutes he gets on the field.

Great post! I think that is what is a bit lost in the story is the extraordinary circumstances he had to perform under...to literally revive a man in front of that crowd, his brothers on the field, his family, and to the millions watching in prime time...just wow! I mean it is just an immense amount of pressure and stress to have someones life in your hands to begin with, but to have to do it under those circumstances and for that long...unreal. This! I think this would be an incredible moment and I really really really hope they do this!

Yes, see my post above...I got my info from a report on TV and they were wrong in saying Bills win the tie breaker in the record vs common opponents. So I had bad information, it is going to be SOV and that won't be determined until all the games finish this week. So my bad, I had bad info literally off of watching them discuss it on TV who had it wrong. But seeing comments here, I went and looked it up myself and confirmed you are correct.

I was going off information I got from ESPN discussing it where they stated we would win the tie breaker regardless and couldn't finish lower than the 2 seed if it was ruled a no contest. But after reading your comment, I went and looked at more information on it and now I see where they had their information incorrect. They had us winning a tie breaker on common opponents by 1 game, but that is incorrect. So apologies, I was going off what was being reported, and not only did they have it wrong that Buffalo would be the 2 seed regardless, but they also had the wrong tie breaker deciding the outcome I see now which would be one further regarding strength of wins. Bills enter at 92 wins and Bengals enter at 85. But a win over Balt jumps them to 95 to our 92 if we lose to NE. So then it would come down to the final results of the remaining games. So the reality I was incorrect based on the info I saw on ESPN, and so is everyone else saying the Bengals definitely have the tie breaker, because they don't. The actual correct answer is who will win the tie breaker will not be known until the conclusion of this weeks games (if a tie breaker is needed). Which now means, yes the Bills do need to win the game regardless if they want to control their own destiny regarding the 2 seed. So apologies on my incorrect statement, but I was just going off the report that I was watching at the time I posted it.

Kind of surprised this thread isn't getting more love and activity. I applaud Josh and McD bringing much needed attention to him and his heroics. I hope the appropriate amount of recognition starts to happen more for him. Without him and his decisive actions and dedicated effort this likely would be a much sadder story.

Payton is one of the most overrated head coaches in the NFL.

We would be tied on first tie breaker still and it goes to the second tie breaker which I believe is record vs common opponents which we have a 1 game advantage on. They did the whole scenario earlier, we tie again on first tie breaker and win on second tie breaker. Bills can’t finish the season lower than the 2 seed if the Bills vs Bengals game is declared a no contest UPDATE: Upon further review, it has now become clear what I was watching them report on TV was incorrect, both in what tie breaker would be the deciding factor (record vs common opponents) and the fact that either team had final claim yet to the tie breaker. Its actually not yet determined, and can't be until this weeks games conclude and they tally final strength of wins numbers to see if Buf or Cincy wins on that tie breaker. So to control our own destiny to not finish lower than the 2 seed, we need to beat NE.