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I mean I wouldn’t give him away, but if we could get a decent pick I would move him.

It’s actually better Diggs is not there. He doesn’t need the reps with Josh or the work on his game. It is all the other new guys that benefit and get more balls and reps with Allen that are MUCH MORE needed than Diggs. And I think that is why it’s not that big of a deal to Allen, the coaches, or to Diggs.

I don’t know how they keep Davis if they sign Hopkins. I think Davis gets traded ahead of week 1 if we sign Hopkins because we would 100% not be signing Davis next offseason either if we sign Hopkins.

No issue at all with you having a different opinion. But you repeatedly make exaggerated statements against the facts about his health, suspension, performance, etc. And to be fair, that are definitely extremes on the other side of this convo too. I would like to sign Hopkins personally because more talent is always something I’m in favor of. But I also don’t have an issue if someone doesn’t want to. I also don’t think we must sign him either, I rather like our receiving weapons as of now. But…he is 6 months older than Diggs. So exaggerating his age is pretty silly unless you think Diggs should leave town too because of age. He has had one injury in his whole career that caused him to miss more than 1 game, and that was 2021. In fact he’s only missed 2 other games total in his entire career. So saying he is injury prone isn’t accurate either. His suspension had nothing to do with “roids” either, and you know that yet continue to rant about his “roids” use. You think we don’t need him, shouldn’t spend the money on him, or what not is all fine. Literally changing facts to paint a picture to support your negative bias is over the top and quiet honestly just wasted energy. And that leads to people from the other extreme sometimes looking for extreme reasons as to why. But I don’t have a personal issue with you at all, just find many of your statements on Hopkins to be pretty bad takes in my personal opinion. Doesn’t make you racist though.

Huh? I defended you and said you’re not being racist and are owed an apology from anyone calling you racist. And agree, 300 pages was ridiculous, I made fun of that thread a lot too lol. All I was pointing out is that your posts in this thread and the other have been pretty extreme and over the top exaggerated on the negative opinion you have. It’s cool to not want to add Hopkins or just not like the guy. But your comments have at times been pretty ridiculous, inaccurate, and devoid of the real facts about Hopkins. And when you go that extreme it sometimes prompts people to look for extreme reasons, right or wrong. And for the record, I think it was wrong to question racial bias…just didn’t surprise me either after this 2 thread crusade full of false facts and over the top negative exaggeration either. I agree with that too. You’ve definitely got extremes from both sides on the discussion in the two threads, no doubt.

I agree with that, and said he isn’t being racist and is in the right for wanting an apology if anyone is calling him racist for his personal opinion. But, also at the same time, shouldn’t be too much of a surprise either that if one is going to go to such extremes and over the top statements like he has, then it is going to sometimes cause others to look for equally extreme reasons as to why, right or wrong.

I don’t think you’re being racist either…and I don’t blame you for wanting an apology from that other poster… But…it is a little telling that your Hopkins takes are so extreme, so bad, so over the top, and so ridiculous that some people are looking for equally extreme reasons to try and figure out how your takes could be this bad. So maybe you’re also just being a little bit over the top with your Hopkins bashing crusade too.

Your takes are as bad here on Hopkins as they were in the 300 page thread.

Not firing Frazier after the 13 seconds and continued playoff failures by the defense.

Very well said, couldn’t agree more

That wasn’t close, that was a loss in round 2 and would have had to play Cincy still who we have not looked against yet.

This is great news for me! My friend is close to her and her family, she works directly for Hailee. My wife and I have even been invited to concerts and come hang backstage with them in the past. So this creates a realistic shot at not only meeting Josh, but just hanging out in general if they keep dating! So stoked about this!

Josh Allen has 38 total INT's over the last 3 full seasons with 133 touchdowns. This is a cherry picked stat to make him look controversial. And the 38 turnovers include his fumbles. Bottom line, the only thing this is evident to is that in the last 3 years Josh Allen and the Bills have played in 20 games that ended in 1 score where Allen was often called upon to be Superman and carry the team both rushing and throwing. Plus, Josh Allen has a winning record close to .600% over those 20 games and all without a quality OL, consistent run game, and a change at OC. And several of the 1 score losses the defense didn't get the job done once Allen gave them a lead. So personally...just loathe these cherry picked stats to try and paint a negative narrative while ignoring to over whelming positives. Josh Allen himself will tell anyone he has to clean the turnovers up, but there is a lot more good than bad with Allen and he is as good as anyone in the league.

Did you purposefully leave out the next graphic that went along with this tweet that Josh has a winning record with an almost .600 win % in those very same 1 score games the past 3 years?

Not the same thing...Von wasn't 34 years old when he tore it the first time. People got bent out of shape when many of us warned Tre may not be back to start the year...they got more bent out of shape when many of us warned he may struggle when he is back as it often takes until the next season before they bounce back. So young Von vs 34 old Von isn't a fair comparison. At his age, just playing at 34 without coming off an injury is a question on whether they will be the same player. But coming off this injury again, but now at age 34, certainly brings legitimate questions on when he will be back and how much it will affect him or not. Von is always optimistic, which is good, but doesn't change what he is trying to recover from at a much older age.

Agreed, and I am surprised there are 12 votes for lineups in the poll that doesn't include Torrence. Our guard play was so bad last year I feel like any guard off the street at any moment could have stepped in and not been any worse. Sure, it's possible Torrence struggles in camp and preseason and they go with veteran presence and bring Torrence along slower. But IMHO, Torrence is just too good of a prospect to where I find a hard time seeing him start the season on the bench while one of the lesser inspiring veterans start. IMHO, if Brown can build on the potential he showed as a rookie and put last year behind him, our OL has a shot at being significantly better this year. Brown is the key, because by adding both McGovern and Torrence, along with Bates, our guard spot now has depth and I am sure we can find a 2 man combo amongst those 3 that will be better than any combo at guard we trotted out last year. But RT is still biggest question mark where I don't know if we have a quality option there until we see what version of Brown we get as there isn't much behind him to make you feel comfortable if Brown struggles.

Oh my...this is like one of those PPP threads that never die I assumed this was sarcastic, but then someone hit the agree button. So is this Adams comment a joke or is there something I missed?

Saw this, pretty awesome...although good to keep some perspective. While he did hit 4 homers, it wasn't exactly a hitting clinic...but still the kid hadn't swung the baseball bat in 8 years, so impressive none the less. He did however bomb one of those homers 489 feet, longer than Judge's homer later in that game ha. Dude is just a stud. Back in the "wrong Josh" era from draft through his rookie season...this is one of things I kept hammering home to that hysterical crowd...Josh did NOT focus on football in high school, he was a multi-sport athlete in tiny town in the middle of nowhwere. It is why he didn't have recruitment options and wound up a JUCO before going to Wyoming. And because of this, Josh had never really been exposed to high level coaching, he was succeeding on the core of just his raw talent and ability. Then I would point out to the substantial amount of improvement between his last game at Wyoming and the combine just from the short time working with Palmer. That would be further seen through out his rookie year where he took major strides back side of the season after coming back from injury. The kid is just a pure athlete and competitor. Wouldn't trade him for anyone, he will be HOF player by the time his career is done.

Yeah, like the Murray signing, I posted that before he was signed. Murray was a nice insurance add

Ralph is cheap

Brilliant haha

This is fair 🤣

I am rather enjoying the discussion my self If I am being honest, I feel like you are coming off way better now than how you were phrasing your posts earlier. These are well thought out and put together thoughts and fair opinions. Movie is easy...that is a comedy classic and definite big fan of My Cousin Vinny Fair point, except this is how you see it: There are ST players whose position designation is a formality (as they are ST guys mainly) and then there are positional guys who also can contribute on ST. Kumerow, Taiwan, etc are ST guys whose positional designation has little meaning and will offer little to nothing there. Sherfield to me is a WR who can also contribute on ST's. I don't see the gap that concerning considering they force fed Hill and Waddle so much and they still also made efforts to get the run game going. And there is still the factor too of the much lower QB play given how much time Tua missed where lesser QB's are even less capable of spreading the ball around. Bingo, we are right in line here...Dorsey is a major question mark for me. Can he properly use the guys on the roster, get them all involved, is a LEGIT question mark based on last year. He is definitely the biggest threat to guys like Sherfield and Harty getting involved in the offense. Dorsey struggled last year to get Knox, Shakir, Cook, Hines, etc more involved in the passing game when we needed those guys to be. There isn't a lot wrong with this order, but its also not as black and white as it reads. Diggs and Davis are the clear WR1 and WR2 heading into camp, and without injury it will be week 1 too. However, Davis struggled last year, his reputation is bigger than his on field results. If he resembles last year, then I think Davis WR2 spot becomes more reminiscent of Sanders/Davis role in 2021 where Sanders was the WR2, but as the season went on Davis went from little opportunities to eating into some of Sanders targets as he got more playing time when the offense saw a boost from him being more involved. So I can Sherfield getting some of Davis's targets potentially too. But further expanding on the list not being so black and white, we still spread the offense out and not only run 3 wide sets, but 4 and 5 wide too. Allen likes to spread the ball around too, and at other positions where we have been deeper in the past on both sides of the ball, we used more of a rotation than a set depth chart to keep guys fresh. This is probably the first year where we have that luxury at WR. So Sherfield (under the assumption he produces when given opportunities) should see some opportunities to make some plays even if Davis bounces back. I was high on Davis heading into last year, no so much this year. I remain cautiously optimistic, but the lack of progress from him concerns me after 3 years. His low catch rate is a career long issue, and he has a bigger reputation than he does big games. I am skeptical we will pay him what he likely commands in FA next year, and even more skeptical we would pay him if he has a big year given we probably cant afford him in that case even if they were willing to pay it. I loved the Shakir pick (thought he would go 2nd-3rd round) when we got him, and I am still high on him now. That being said, as much as I like him, he hasn't proven anything yet and has one of the lowest target rates per routes run in NFL history which makes me a bit concerned if he is getting open enough or if Josh just wasn't looking for him because he had other open guys. So I am still optimistic about Shakir, but he is still a question mark until he proves it on the field like anyone else. Yeah I don't have some unrealistic expectation here of Sherfield being some game changing addition that puts up 800+ yards, that is just impossible with all the mouths to feed. Lets not forget, our RB's Cook and Hines should also see more targets too this year. But I do think Sherfield is a clear upgrade to Kumerow and good insurance if Davis falters or we have any injuries. Love the bet...which for every intent is just to be fun, not to be proven "right" as none of this is certain, just all fun opinion. I agree to it, and look forward to seeing me win it by week 5 hahaha.