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Of course he’s fond of it. It’s the only time in his career that he mattered to a team or fans lol. It’s also the only time where he actually cared about playing football because he hadn’t gotten his big payday yet.

She didn't have an issue when they looked into him a couple years ago

We can easily free up enough cap space to fit both. Hunt wont cost much and we can do an incentive based deal with OBJ

If I am the Bills, I have my eyes on two players and would honestly be trying to get them both... Trade for Hunt and then sign OBJ. I am a big believer in Devin, but Hunt is a top 5 RB as a full time starter. He is a true 3 down RB who is a great runner and receiver but can also pickup tough yards between the tackles. Him as the lead and Devin rotating in would an excellent 1-2 punch. OBJ is depth and insurance and even if not full speed, is at least better than McKenzie or Kumerow. I would bring both in because both help our football team, but more importantly, we would also be keeping them from a team we might face in the playoffs or Super Bowl. But let me be clear...and I am supremely confident in our team as is. I do not think we MUST make these moves, or any moves. This is more about how both these trades makes sense in both helping our roster be even better and prevents competitors for the SB this year from getting better.

I think ultimately its going to be SF if they are healthy in the playoffs. They have been crushed by injuries this year, especially on defense. Some are out for the season, but most are back now plus as the seasons grows they will get CMC heavily involved. He looked real good in the limited touches he had last week without even knowing the offense. Once they transition into CMC being up to speed and taking the majority of the snaps, he will be a big player for them. But, both the D and CMC are going to need to be healthy in the playoffs, and given their injury history in SF the last couple years and the injury history of CMC, that is certainly a wild card right now.

Fixed it for you...cuz you forgot about the Chiefs who are the 2nd best team. So whoever makes it from the NFC will be the 3rd best team because Bills and Chiefs are 1 and 2 right now in the NFL. Both teams would be favored over any NFC team in the SB right now if it was played today.

Oh stop dude. You’re just being ridiculous now. I didn’t “stan” for Araiza, I elected to not rush to a decision based on literally no real info being known or confirmed yet at that time. With Hunt, people make mistakes. I believe in second chances and he has excelled with his second chance and put all this behind him.

Come on, you know perfectly well physicality with women is a different discussion than physicality with men.

He got into 2 MALE altercations. So I would caution you to be VERY clear to qualify that because your make it sound like it was 3 altercations with women, which it was NOT. None of the altercations had anything to do with sex, romance, or domestic violence. He reacted poorly to a woman calling him the N word, it triggered him after she had already been causing problems for a while inside the room with Hunts girlfriend and their guests by refusing to leave after they discovered she wasn't 21 and couldn't drink with them. Hunt admitted to struggling to deal with his anger issues back then and went out and did the work to fix that. And has been squeaky clean since then and everyone around him raves about his character. When I grew up, I was raised in Stockton and we didn't even call it a "party" until a fight broke out, otherwise it was just a small gathering. And no, I wasn't one of the people getting into fights, but I had plenty of friends that did. Those guys all went on to grow out of that young bravado phase where you had to react and prove yourself if someone "disrespected" you. People mature, people grow up. Sometimes it takes really messing up to open your eyes that there is even an issue in the first place when you grew up a certain way your whole life.

Because so many people in here have the whole incident wrong and treating it like it was domestic violence.

I wouldn't overlook this move, and I wouldn't just blanketly say Toney is a bust. Toney played on horrific offenses with a horrific QB prior to this year. And he has battled some injuries. To just say he can't succeed or be dangerous now in a terrific situation in KC, is very premature. It was a lot to risk on him, sure. But this trade could really help the Chiefs. When they lost Hill, it took 2 things away...a guy who can stretch the defense but also that quick strike YAC weapons that Mahomes uses so well. Toney can help fill those voids. So...yeah, I wouldn't be so quick to mock this move. If Toney can stay healthy and available, he can really help that offense because he doesn't have to replicate Hills production with all the other weapons they have. But his presence and threat over the top and underneath on those short strikes for YAC is going to make the Chiefs harder to defend. I think this trade helps the Chiefs more than the Quinn trade helped the Eagles.

No disrespect...but people need to top reading sensationalized headlines and do some research. He didn't brutalize anyone. At what point in society did manipulated and sensationalized (and often completely fabricated) headlines from clickbait online media sources become news, facts, or information? This is why we are the least informed first world country while also being the most misinformed first world country on the planet.

He is still Aaron Rodgers. I’m very confident we will win by 3 scores. But every game must be taken seriously every week or you end up losing to a team like the Jags. On paper, Packers should be much better than they have been playing, they could turn it on in any given week. But yea…there are plenty of negative fans around here who piss and moan even when we win in a dominant fashion.

You do realize that he was NOT romantically involved with the woman right? Hunts girlfriend was in the room with them and she and her girlfriends are the ones who the original altercation inside the room because the girl refused to leave after they found out she was under 21 and they were drinking. The 2 women there were invited by one of Hunts friends to hang with them, not Hunt.

Robert Quinn - Hey I know his name must mean SB for Eagles! Is it a good move for Eagles…sure, but he isn’t the same player anymore. Does it change a whole lot for Eagles prospects? Not really. They were already the top NFC team, this didn’t widen the gap much at all. Both Bills and Chiefs are still better and this didn’t change that or close the gap. And for the record…our DL is still better.

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Missed in all this is that Juedy the last 2 seasons has a 50% catch rate. Which is atrocious.

I get what you are saying, and normally agree. I have total confidence in our scouting department and Beane when it comes to the draft. However...Super Bowl windows are almost never as long as people think they will be. Cap issues, injuries, and overall league turnover every year can change the SB picture quite rapidly and frequently. So when we are sitting here primed for a major SB push this year, using a draft pick to make a move that might help you get over the top is different conversation. Let me put it this way...people have been pleading and praying we get home field advantage in the playoffs. But what does that come with? Potentially bad weather to be throwing in. Last year we lost to a lowly Pats team at home because we had to resort to throwing the ball 19 times in the 2nd half because we weren't doing any better in our ground game. Josh completed just 50% of his passes and we lost the game. Come playoff time, we are going to want to know we can run in bad weather and control the game. And what happens if we have an injury to a key playmaker like Davis or Diggs? Having another weapon like Hunt who is dangerous as runner and a receiver could be a critical piece. So for me...Im all for it. CMC was different, didn't like the cost. But Hunt is a top 5 talent who can be had much cheaper, this move I am all for even though I am still someone who has confidence in Devin.

No problemo sir…A quality poster like yourself deserves a quality response bud

No disrespect Logic, but Im not gonna repost the details for the third time on what happened. You can scroll up to the top of this page or back a few pages to see my thoughts on that. Bottom line: Its being over exaggerated. He was a young guy who reacted very poorly to be called the N word by a woman who had been causing trouble in the room, and with hunts girlfriend in the room, and refused to leave even once out of the room. They wanted her to go because they found out she was not 21 but she was refusing. The physical contact was very minimal, lets not act like he Ray Riced this woman and its something he cant come back from. Young man 100% made a mistake. But the facts are that the woman was the root problem, who was there as a guest of one of Hunt's friends, not with Hunt himself. Hunt made a big mistake and reacted very poorly after pleading with this woman to leave and being called the N word. She was the instigator at every stage of this, starting inside the room with Hunts girlfriend and her friends. He got a second chance and has done everything right. To hold onto this is unnecessary IMHO. For anyone to pretend they know his character based on this lone incident makes no sense to me. I will trust the opinion of his character from all those around him, his teammates, and the fact that he has done everything right since. All of it points to this being an unfortunate mistake and lapse in judgement, not a rooted character flaw.

No offense, but man I hate this logic. Its clear people in this thread don't understand the job a TE does out there. It's a lot more than just offensive stats. Anyone solely focusing on Knox stats doesn't understand what a complete TE does. But thats just part of why I hate this logic... Bills have the #1 offense in the NFL. Josh Allen is on pace to shatter...not break...but utterly shatter the NFL record for most yards in a season. Current record is just over 5500 yards, Allen is on pace to break it by more than 800 yards with a 6300 yard season. What do you expect Allen to do? Up his pace to 7000 yards to make sure Knox gets an extra 700 yards to satisfy the contract expectations? Otherwise, what do you want Josh to do? Pass less to Diggs and Davis just inflate Knox stats to make you feel better about his contract? If our offense was struggling and we didn't have playmakers everywhere, then yeah, why aren't we getting more production from a guy capable of more would be a legit question. But this board is impossible. No matter how good we play, they want to find something to complain about. We are on a historic pace on offense...yet people freaking out we don't get more rushing yards or more yards to a TE. Knox is doing exactly what he is being asked to do. NOTE: I said ALL offseason...not only would Knox NOT reach last years level of production, but its likely going to go down. Not because he was not capable, but because we were loaded offensively. If Knox needed to be featured more as a receiving threat, he is totally capable of being that guy who could step up and do that. I also find this ironic given the last time the Bills were on the field Knox literally won the game for us and likely the end result of that win will be the #1 seed in the playoffs.

Why do people think Cleveland cares about Moss? He has no value to them, they are already stacked at RB, Moss would likely not even be active on gamedays for them. Give them the 4th...heck, give them our 3rd and go win the SB. Our 3rd is essentially a 4th almost anyway. Hunt is a top 5 talent at RB, a pure 3 down RB.

Appreciate the long thought out response. Just know, anywhere I use ALL CAPS below, it's not me yelling, just emphasizing the importance of those words. I disagree, I do not think it goes beyond what he did. You know how many parties NFL players have regularly? I mean our own Diggs has partied the same way. Having a party is not a crime, nor does it mean it's "nasty". More importantly, are you aware that Hunts girlfriend was in the room? This wasn't some nasty sex exploit of Hunt, he was literally with his girlfriend and her friends. The girls involved in the incident were 2 women, not a group of women where she was trying to "get everyone out". Both women were already out, in the hallway, and refusing to leave still. It was some of Hunts guy friends, his girlfriend, and some of her girl friends in the room. This was a group of people hanging out and having some drinks, was not a "bad" situation. And they did it in the safety of a hotel room. The real mistake was one of Hunts guy friends invited 2 girls he knew through a buddy of his. Once they were in the room, they found out the girls were NOT 21 and that is why they were asked to leave because they were not old enough to drink. The one girl kept refusing to leave and started a confrontation with Hunts girlfriend in the room. I never said "nothing happened" or that he didn't kick the girl. I specifically said 90% of the people in this thread do NOT know what happened and are claiming FALSE things happened such as "beat up a woman", "punched a woman in the face", "kicked a woman in the HEAD". I said none of these false claims happened. What he did was an initial shove the moment she called him the N word, and then later a light kick push in her butt to nudge her to go the other way and leave. And if you read my write up of what happened, I repeatedly mention he reacted poorly and was in the wrong for doing anything physical in the first place. BUT there is non stop false statements in this thread exaggerating what the physical altercation entailed. And that over dramatization in this thread that grossly exaggerates the actual incident is what I was chastising. Never did I defend his behavior, but I am simply correcting the false information that is rampant in this thread. And here it goes again, now you are making wild assumptions that are not rooted in facts. Suddenly its now a "bunch of very drunk or drugged women". Come on...it was TWO women, not a bunch, and there is nothing about this incident that makes them "drugged" as if Hunt and his entourage drugged them. You see, this is the exaggerated stuff that bothers me. Now they are suddenly drugged? You make this sound like the men in the room "drugged" them in an attempted date rape *****. The facts are, the two women were friends with one of the guys in the group which is how they got invited to hang out. Once they found out they were NOT 21, they were asked to leave and refused. The actual original altercation was between all the girls in the room. They wanted them to leave with alcohol being present and them not being 21. The 2 girls refused to leave. That is what started everything. It had nothing to do with women being drugged. Once again, I never said nothing happened. I specifically sighted the FALSE claims people have made and said none of THOSE happened. No, it shouldn't color every decision. But it sure feels like you are letting it. Bottom line...If someone knows the facts and has an opinion about the FACTS, post away. Nothing wrong with having an independent or differing opinion on the matter when you are forming that opinion on the ACTUAL FACTS of what happened. I was not chastising someone's opinion, I was chastising the American way of running around spouting false information to skew the perception. But like I said, kudos for at least a real response here even though I still find some of it inaccurate and a bit sensationalized. But you at least know enough to form your own opinion on the matter, and I don't have an issue with that even though I disagree on the points above.

I can’t believe he is actually still in the league. I didn’t even realize he was until he got the HC job in Denver. I was stunned that he actually was in GB prior to that. Not only was he the worst OC I can remember in Bills history, but he’s actually an even much worse head coach. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was fired already and really should be. It’s that bad.

The thread is what I hate about society. Literally 90% of you don’t even know what actually happened and you are in here spreading false claims about what happened. People claiming he “beat up a woman”, “punched a woman”, “kicked a woman in the head”, etc etc. Literally none of that happened, in fact, nothing close to that even happened. If you don’t know the facts, don’t post about it.