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Sweet see you next year then. Nothing more for you to see here. Season is over. Peace.

While I normally would back this logic, I will say the injury is a minor one to his throwing elbow. So don't think there is much chance of further injury to his specific injury if we used him in some 3rd and short, 4th and short, or goal line situations. Even though the most important thing is making a SB and winning it, we are still the #1 seed in the AFC only by a tie breaker, and we are only a half game up on our division while also being 0-2 in our division. So, this game is still important both in our quest for home field advantage as well as winning our division. And for that, I wouldn't be opposed to see Josh used creatively in a way that doesn't put his elbow injury at risk if we needed it this game.

Except Josh got hurt in the pocket trying to make a throw. Didn't have anything to do with our run game or Josh doing too much. We were in a last drive situation where we had to pass no matter what. Run game wouldn't ha changed that. But if you are saying, that it forces to get Dorsey to use the RB's more and spread the ball around more in the near term while Josh is recovering from the injury, well that could be one silver lining. However, there is no real bright side here IMHO. Having the heart and soul of our team and one of the best players in the NFL have a very dangerous injury to his elbow is not worth any silver lining. I would have rather hoped Dorsey made those adjustments off the film, not because Josh has an injury on his throwing elbow. In fact, my biggest concern thus far on Dorsey is the fact he hasn't made the necessary adjustments in the 2nd half's of the past 2 games. I want to know he can do that on his own more than do it because he had no choice.

I’m just saying Josh hit Diggs, then OL holding penalty over turned it. Josh hit Davis 70 yards down field he let it bounce off his face. Josh made the plays on that last drive, his teammates let him down on that drive was just my only point.

I don't disagree with this, they definitely can't put it all on Keenum. But we can win this game with Keenum. The key to this game will be ball control. The defense is going to need to get healthy as it can this week. Hopefully Poyer and Milano are back, seems like Groot is likely out. And if we can get Tre active for this game that would be great too, although not sure how well he will play in his first game back. But the D needs to limit the Vikings offense so Keenum and the offense can focus on ball control and moving the chains. We won't be getting the chunk yardage we get with Allen. We can't have regular 3rd and longs and expect to pick them up like we do with Allen. I would love to see us utilizing multiple RB's in the passing game, Knox and Shakir on al lthe underneath stuff. Just keep moving the chains.

Not Josh's fault on that though...phantom holding penalty overturning a great throw to Diggs then Davis dropped an absolute monster dime on a 70 yard bomb that no only is a gimme FG from there, but they had a shot at the endzone still to win the game too if Davis catches that instead of bouncing it off his face. I think I was more sick about that drop than I was on the Hopkins hailmary loss. To see our injured QB make that throw while rolling out to his left was mind blowing. Then to see Davis drop it was sickening. Reminded me when Josh got that impossible ball to Charles Clay and he couldn't make the catch against Miami and we lost that game. Except this throw was a dime, but both should have been caught and Josh should have 2 more wins on his resume.

I agree on the first down. My only point though was the offense was sputtering which kept putting our very short handed defense back on the field. So I think the defense is fine, it was just getting worn down by being on the field a lot and missing 4 guys amongst the best in the NFL at their positions and two young starters we lost for parts of the game in Groot in Elam. I am not overly concerned moving forward, we are still the best team in the league in points allowed by a wide margin. We just for the first time this year didn't get the offense going and score over 20 points ourselves.

Saying we can't take anyone lightly anymore (implying they took the Jets lightly) after a loss is a pet peeve of mine. Just because we lost a game doesn't mean McD, Frazier, and the team came in taking anyone lightly. Jets are 6-3 on the back of great defense and good ground game and a good coaching staff with a stout defensive background. Not like we lost to a bottom feeder team like Colts or Houston. This was a tough divisional rival, I have no doubt they took this game very seriously even though it didn't go our way.

Why over exaggerate? Here are the facts: #1 Seed in the AFC - And 2 missed FG's by Bass in games we were decimated by injuries keeping us from probably being 8-0 #1 scoring Defense in the NFL and by a wide margin of over 2 points per game to the next closest team #4 Defense in yards allowed #6th in rushing yards allowed The D wasn't bad against the Packers, we gave up 17 points in a game our offense couldn't stay on the field in the 2nd half. We played to stop the pass with a large multiple score lead in the 2nd half which opened up some rush opportunities which gave small plays and ate time. We won by 2 scores still. Against the Jets, the D was missing 2 main anchors in Poyer and Milano, to go with already missing Tre and Hyde and then we had injuries during the game to guys who started the game like Elam and then of course Groot. And yet we still only gave up 20 points. The issue was not the defense, it was the offenses inability to sustain drives and get anything going in the 2nd half. Our D, already severely short handed, couldn't get off the field and gave Jets more opportunities to play ball control and wear down the defense further. So all this panic everyone has is completely lacking the context of the past two games. I don't think people realize how close we are to being 8-0. It took some rare and extreme circumstances to lose the Miami game even though we completely dominated that game by every measurable standard. And then the Jets game, they made their long FG attempt, and we missed ours. Not to mention the absolute dime Josh dropped on Davis on last pass of the game he flat out dropped and bounced off his face. When we were healthy, we were annihilating teams most week and went into KC and beat them again. They guys we have been missing on D are not guys backups can just plug in and play up to their level...they are amongst the best at their positions in the league with guys like Milano, Hyde, Poyer, and Tre. Not to mention our young talent has missed time too. Now we got an elbow situation to monitor with Josh which is the scariest of all the injury situations and just hope it doesn't get worse if he tries to play through it. Just get healthy for the playoffs. We can do that, we will be the scariest team in either conference come playoff time.

hahaha oh man, this thread will always be gold. I refused to engage it in when it was up and just sat back and watched the comments as people fed the troll lmao. I miss ieatcrayonz lol...lots of other good peeps in there I don't think are around anymore like Lori

I dont know. As much as I want to see Cook succeed, he is really slow on his reads for lanes and has shown poor vision. Ive watched him miss so many open lanes to just take a path to get a couple more yards when he could have cut back and picked up a ton more. His field vision and awareness is very low right now. Granted, more snaps and experience can help this, but right now, his vision is substantially lower than Devins which is why Devin is much better at picking up tough yards in finding small lanes to get through. \ Devin is just faster the hole, and that is more important than break away speed

Ok this one got me. 👏😂 You win the internet today.

Did you try double jump

Haha saw this on twitter lol... Josh Allen Runner Game https://www.joshallen-runner.com

Easy Davis. I said all off season McKenzie is not a starter, that was clear as day to me. And I knew the staff doubted it to after only signing him to backup money and then going out and adding a more accomplished Slot WR in Crowder and drafting Shakir. But Davis was someone I thought had the potential to lead the team in yards and TD's with his big play ability and all the attention Diggs was going to get. Firugred Diggs had a lock on receptions, but really expected Davis to take that next step. And while he has flashed, his consistency to get open on non big plays is a concern as his low catch rate of 54%. Early on I gave him a pass on his total catches with missing some time and playing hurt. But the last 2 weeks he was back to full strength and he really struggled against good corners. With how many big plays he was making, he seemed poised for a breakout coming into this year. He just hasn't progressed from the occassional big play to consistent producer and threat in all areas of the field. I am not writing him off, but I really hope Dorsey starts to scheme up some better play designs to get him more involved because what ever they are doing now isn't working. Runner Up: Dorsey. He isn't a huge disappointment overall, I mean we have been one of the top 2 offenses most the season. However, where I am disappointed is I thought he would look to involve our RB's more in both rush attempts and as pass receivers and also design more offensive plays for Knox with his own history of using TE's when he played. This is one area I hope he looks at the tape these past 2 weeks and goes back and makes those adjustments. NOTE: Dorsey also needs to abandon the McKenzie experiment and focus on making Shakir the featured slot guy. We need another threat to take pressure off Diggs and Davis. This offense has shown it misses Cole at times, especially on important 3rd down plays where Cole was a first down machine.

Me? I made like 2 comments on your posts while you have dozens in here arguing with everyone. I actually don't care...One, I know its not a concern, and 2 I don't think he will get the money and length of contract here in the first place. But you do seem to care a lot, almost like he jacked your girl or punked you at a bar or something. And as far as your wrong per usual comment...Lol, ok, I don't think you want to compare each others track records around here.

Come on, lol, this is your "source"? I knew the moment I opened it this was a skewed opinion piece and intended hack job by the writer. But it was totally confirmed when he got to talking about his time in Cleveland and tried to claim OBJ was the problem and not Baker who is just as much garbage in Carolina with top end receiving weapons as he was in Cleveland. More importantly, after OBJ was traded all his Cleveland teammates came out in support of OBJ and said he was excellent teammate and in the locker room. He then went to LA and immediately played great when he wasn't saddled with a garbage QB and again, all his teammates raved about him in the locker room and as a teammate. You are wrong on this. The sooner you realize that the testimony of his teammates carries more weight than a biased cheeseheadTV click bait article the better because you are on a sinking ship with this current line you are taking on OBJ.

No. Not its not. You are trying to manufacture things now to fit your narrative that you want to paint.

Then what happened? Nothing much, just went on to set NFL playoff scoring records last year and averaged 42 points per game in the playoffs with Allen throwing 9 TD's in 2 games. Except none of this accurate other than him being an outstanding teammate. But everything else you said is incorrect.

This pretty much sums up what I have been saying in all the other threads. So you got an agree from me. One thing you left off though...Dorsey needs to figure out how to adjust. He needs to find ways to involve a more spread out offense where we are getting the ball into other hands in the passing game like Knox, Shakir, and the RB's. You covered some of that, just didn't mention Dorsey's role in that and him needed to show he can watch the film on how the Packers and Jets made halftime adjustments to stall our offense, and show he can adjust.

Mental issues? Really? Where were all the mental issue concerns when Brady threw 4 INT in a game, or when Brees did that, Rodgers did that, Manning did that, Montana did that, etc? Our offense was out of sync in the 2nd half of two games against 2 great secondaries. Allen made a few bad decisions and some errant throws...now all of a sudden he has having "mental issues"? And we won one of those games thanks to Allens big first half, and should have forced OT in the 2nd one at the very least had Davis not dropped a ball right off his face to end the game on what was one the greatest throws of the season by any QB...or had Bass not missed another FG. The amount of unrealistic perfection people expect out of Allen and the Bills this year right now is so crazy. Mahomes has had more bad stretches this year than Allen...where are all the concerns over his mental issues?

I thought the Wyoming one was on a sack. Other than that, it is true. Allen has not missed a game in the NFL or since that injury you said he was scrambling on in Wyoming from an injury that occured on him running the ball as a runner. Every game he has missed has come on a pass related injury. That is the fact. You literally just tried to add in injury scares to count them as injuries.

He had a bad second half in back to back games, not a bad game and a half. He has 4 TD's in the first halves of both those games. People need to step back a second and breathe. We don't need to over exaggerate things here. We are a missed FG by Bass and a dropped pass by Davis from winning the Jets game and being 2-0 in this "bad stretch". GB and Jets have excellent secondaries, and that allowed them to not blitz much, in fact Jets I think blitzed only twice all game. This gave them extra guys in coverage and Dorsey failed to make the adjustments we needed. Jets especially have an excellent front 7 and brought pressure all day with their front 4, again allowing them to take away the big play from the Bills in the passing game. End of the day...the bigger concern here IMHO is Dorsey. He needs to figure out how to make adjustments because we just watched 2 teams in back to back weeks make halftime adjustments to take his offense out of sync. Guys are not getting open, especially Davis. Dorsey needs to scheme better to give Josh more options. This is what happens when you don't have a threat out of the slot like we did with Cole. McKenzie experiment needs to end, its an utter failure like I said it would be. They specifically said part of the reason they traded for Hines was to use him to return kicks so Shakir would no longer have to even though he has done a good job. Beane said they are asking a lot of him as a rookie to return kicks and learn to play WR at the NFL level and want to free him up to focus on being a WR. This tells me they both recognize the need to get Shakir more involved in the passing game and plan too, and this offense needs that. Now it is up to Dorsey to scheme better and give more outlets to Josh like Knox, Shakir, the RB's, etc.

Lol, I put a funny laugh face after it as poking fun a bit. But his input is as worthless as anyone else guessing. Credible means he has credible information on Josh Allens actual medical diagnosis. If they haven't spoken to the Bills, Allens doctors, etc...then the tweet is as worthless as any other tweet. There is not a whole lot of things that could be the injury, one doesn't have to be a doctor to predict the few possible injuries a movement like that can make. I don't have a medical degree, but I can tell you with pretty strong accuracy the types of injuries possible when a knee is bent the wrong way or the ankle rolled up. And all of those diagnosis possibilities include it being a non-injury as much as it does a minor one to a serious one. Look at Kupp last week, initial reaction was he was going to be out a while and had at the very least a serious sprain to possible season ending injury. He didn't even have an injury designation by the end of the week and played this week. People were melting down all over twitter about their fantasy football seasons for nothing. So that is where I was coming from. Great he is a doctor (assuming thats even true given its twitter), but means nothing in regards to Josh's actual diagnosis. And this is how rumors start and panic starts...guys like him getting everyone all charged up with literally no actual information to base it on other than a "all things possible" analysis. Its just a pet peeve of mine in this world of baseless claims, misinformation, etc. we live in now. None of that pertains to you, just specifically saying with tweets like this.

Josh played the next game, I am talking about injuries where he missed games. All of his injuries where he missed time were related to him throwing the ball, not running. And all but that one came inside the pocket, including all of his NFL injuries.