Alphadawg7

Careful what you wish for...heard a lot of people say the same thing about Daboll...now look, Dorsey sucks and the offense is no where near what it was the first half the season before teams got tape on Dorsey and figured him out. No disrespect, but you couldn't have listed a more irrelevant point with this one. History has no significance what so ever in regards to what McD and Allen do or don't do together. Any correlation would merely be a coincidence.

I’ve never seen a sack turn into an interception either. See you can play that coin on both sides. You want to fixate on what 5 or 6 more single plays a year, literally that’s what you’re complaining about, because if he had 4.5 sacks but got 6 more it would be 10.5 and you’d be begging to keep him. Yet there are lots of people who get a few more sacks than Hughes but no where near the amount of pressures he had. I will take the guy who more frequently impacts the game over some guy who had a few more sacks but did very little else. Sack numbers are grossly over rated. Yes there are guys who pile them up and Frequently disrupt the game, but there a lot more who 7-10 sacks and suck outside of those few sacks. Hughes was for us, and still is, a VERY good and disruptive DE that all opposing teams are forced to game plan for. It’s not really even open for debate.

I cant even believe this thread is still going. So many nails in the coffin in it like this one.

Oliver had a sensational game...no doubt. I think the emotion of the last second comeback is what they gravitated to, but he 100% played his tail off Thursday and totally agree he was worthy of a Turkey dinner.

Whoa...Whoa...Whoa... Don't you know that logic and reason are frowned upon around here. Get on the real bandwagon already...McD and Beane should be fired, Allen is trash and we should bench him for Keenum, and the Roster is trash overall. Shame on you. You're a seasoned vet here. Do better. 😜

As someone who disagrees with the general negativity McD has gotten around here, its post like yours here that give me hope for this board. Sincere Kudos for acknowledging him when you feel he has done a good job despite your previous criticism of him. Most people around here just continue to bash him or players they dislike even after good performances. It is why I started a thread on Edmunds earlier in the season to acknowledge how well he was playing. Because the same people were bashing him after very good games by him for no reason. One of my biggest pet peeves around here is the people who will go against facts to just push their biased agenda and can't even admit when someone they dislike plays well or does something good. As a die hard fan of this team, I am happy when people play well even if it is someone I am not high on long term. For example, I have been of the opinion McKenzie is not a feature slot WR, but is a guy we can scheme plays for and use what he does best, his speed, to create opportunities. But yesterday, he made some big plays for us and had a strong first half and was happy to see that and happy for him. But so many others just want to trash their favorite whipping boy no matter how good of a job they do on a given Sunday. So again, sincere Kudos for acknowledging something positive from someone you've previously had criticism for. I wish more of the board was like this. There is a definitely people who do this as well, just wish it was more posters.

Maybe you failed to notice that Hughes was amongst the league leaders in QB pressures during that time too, something that is as important as sacks because it forces bad throws, creates turnovers, etc etc. Just tracking sacks is a poor barometer for evaluating the play of a DE.

He does that a lot. Its his schtick

No offense, but this is a complete waste of time post. First, whose hurt is a bigger impact than how many games have been missed. Second, injuries played a major roll in our losses and recent struggles. Miami game we had Tommy Sweeney play 5 snaps with a torn ACL because we didn’t have enough OL. Our backup center botched a FG snap. We were missing 7 starters on defense, 5 OL, Knox, and more by end of the game. We had 14 of our 22 starters out for all or part of the Miami game. That’s 64% of our starters or guys who started that game. Against Vikings, not only did we have all the injuries going into the game, but we lost Edmunds at halftime and the defense was worse after losing Edmunds. I can keep going on and on, but what’s the point. To say injuries have not played a role in our struggles or losses is completely off base and 100% lacks context. So yeah, you’re wrong.

There is a massive difference of being critical of a mistake vs trashing Allen. It’s fair to be critical and analyze a mistake by Allen…then there’s idiotic statements saying he’s been total trash for 4 weeks when he’s been the only reason we have even been in games, let alone won them. Im not up to speed on your take, just making a general comment. There are some realllllllly stupid comments about Allen going around these boards, shout box, etc.

I’ve got major issues with Dorsey. He, IMHO, is the absolute main reason for the offensive struggles. The offense had too much early success to start the year and now that defenses had the tape to figure it out, Dorsey can’t and hasn’t adjusted. I could write 10 paragraphs right now on what I’m upset with him about, but what’s the point. He is our biggest Achilles heal right now.

We should rename TSW to WBH…Wet Blanket Headquarters. No one cares about your whiney complaints about McDs post game speeches. Seriously this thread has got to be one of the whiniest narcissistic threads I’ve seen. Who really gives a **** what any of the fans think about his speech? Doesn’t matter if you love it or hate it…all that matters is the players were HYPED and LOVED it. To come on here after another important and gritty win in 5 days after all this teams been through in 2 weeks and whine you don’t like the post game speech is stunning. I swear some of you don’t deserve this team right now.

You realize Romo calls the game for people across the country right, not just Bills fans? Not everyone knows Josh is banged up, to what degree, that it could be impacting his play, etc. And everyone is getting the perspective from a former QB who has actually also had the same injury.

Mahomes arm strength is pretty close to Josh’s. They were even flirting with a throw off to see who could throw it further. So I’d leave Mahomes on this list too. If Allen wasn’t in the league, Mahomes would have the strongest Arm in the NFL right now.

There is a difference between being honest about his mistakes and negatively grossly over exaggerating his play, trashing him and throwing him under the bus. There are a lot of idiots on this board who have a lot of dumb things to say about Allen.

So you don’t like facts?

So you liked him for several years now then one game he didn’t do the commentary to your liking and you’re done with him? Lol

Facts right there bud, good post. One more thing I know is people are grossly under estimating the impact not having Edmunds the last 6 quarters has on our pass defense, not to mention our injured secondary and one of our best pass rushers in Groot. What so many people here forget or just flat out don’t know/understand is that the pass rush up front is greatly impacted by the quality of coverage. Unless they get a free release, the pass rush needs time to get home on the QB, and that comes when the pass defense, (something Edmunds has a big impact on as well) takes away reads and makes a QB start having to go through progressions. This is one the reasons we blitzed more this past week than normal, we were missing Edmunds with a depleted secondary, along with Groot who had 6 sacks before getting hurt a couple weeks ago. Credit Frazier with making adjustments to get more pressure when we were short handed.

Definitely needed Edmunds that second half. D was doing fine until Edmunds didn’t return in 2nd half.

Yet we managed to convert that into just 2 TD's. Had we been playing KC and didn't achieve a first until late into the 2nd quarter, we likely would have been 3 scores entering halftime and lost that game. That was the point. Playing it safe, we kept kicking FG's...anyone really think we beat KC kicking FG's, let alone not achieving a first down until 7 min left in the half? You would be hard pressed to find a bigger fan of Allen than me. I am not panicking or dumping on him, and I assume the win will help everyone relax and play more loose again this week. My only point is that I just hope this subdued Josh was a temporary thing last week and we see Josh play more free and fiery this week as he has since he has been here.

Get er done Beane. First! 😂

Certainly hope you guys are correct and its still limiting him, which would be better than him being healthy and still having some of these up and down struggles. Like I said, still high on him overall, just would like to see him get better separation and have better focus on his catches. Its just too many drops, and its hurt us and killed drives during this slump the offense has been in and out of the past 4 weeks.

Totally agree it definitely impacted him back then, but I am just saying I don't think its been a thing for him in several weeks now. But I don't have any insight on that other than he has been full go every since with no injury designation I recall seeing.

But why do you think it still bothers him? I dont recall him being limited or on the injury report. I don't think he gets to lean on this excuse given that was many weeks ago at this point and it was minor.

I get that, but his bum ankle was weeks ago, and it has nothing to do with his career catch rate being a lowly 54% or him being 3rd in the NFL in drops. I am still high on Davis and optimistic on him overall, and there is no doubt this offense needs him. I am just saying I am concerned by the lack of separation lately on his routes and low catch rate and drops.