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Oh come on bud, you can't be seriously still talking about this lol. That is the only sentence in a long post about Beane that Bass is even mentioned...are you so desperate to discredit Beane or something that you want to nit pick this bad? Secondly, show me anything in that sentence that isn't true. Bass has been a key player since he got here when he broke the Bills franchise single season scoring record as a rookie and is already 8th in Bills history in scoring after 3 seasons here. He has been an excellent player and pick for us, so its so absurd that you take exception him being mentioned along with Diggs and Davis joining the team in the same season. If you don't think the team has benefited from Bass being a part of it, then I don't know what tell you. You make it sound like I made this big case for Bass, I literally mentioned him in a blurb of guys who have been a big part of our scoring as a top 3 offense in the NFL the past 3 years.

This is interesting if true. Wonder if they mean working the phones to available free agents. Guys like Hunt and Foreman stick out as the likely candidates if they are. Or are they working the phones for one of the top guys rumored to be available via trade such as Henry, Ekeler, Chubb, or Dalvin. Given the phrasing "high level" RB, think that would lean more towards one of the guys available for trade. Be interesting to see what they do at RB in terms of resolving that position prior to the draft and looking to land one in the draft.

Huh? Where did I set a low bar? I literally mentioned him among several guys who joined the team in 2020 and for some reason you want to single him out and take exception to his inclusion on a list. Have no idea why you keep bringing him up, he was like one word in a multi-paragraph post about Beane's accomplishments. So consistently fielding a top 3 offense and defense along with a top ST unit is now just a decent job?

Yes Bass. He was drafted that year and has been a very good kicker and retained player for us. Unless you don't think our kicker has not contributed points to our top 3 offense the past 3 seasons he has been here. He has been an excellent draft pick by Beane, I don't think anyone could argue against that. And the year he was drafted we also added Diggs and Davis. So not sure what you are questioning about Bass TBH.

Lol, ok that meme is funny, but Chark isn't quite that bad. Im not saying to replace Davis, just to be another guy who can stretch the field. He was 6th in the NFL last year in big play rate (catches over 20 yards) and has a better catch rate than Davis does and less drops.

Says who? Vegas still has us as one of the favorites for the SB next year. We have been mostly top 3 in scoring offense and scoring defense the last 3 years, the only exception was defense in 2020. 2020: Offense 2nd, Defense 16th 2021: Offense 3rd, Defense 1st 2022: Offense 2nd, Defense 2nd You think you accomplish only because of one player in Josh Allen? In fact our offense was 23rd in 2019 with Josh Allen the year before Beane invested in the offense more and went and got 3 very important pieces to the offense in Diggs, Davis, and Bass. Not to mention, guys like Knox and Devin were continuing to grow and give good contributions to this team offensively, guys he also drafted. Beane 100% wiped the whole waste of space roster out, masterfully traded pieces away for far more than they were worth like getting the first pick in the 3rd round for Tyrod Taylor, getting a 2nd and solid CB for Watkins, trading Cordy Glenn to Bengas to get in position for the right QB, etc etc. And you think you have some case to take the credit away from Beane in how he took bad to middling team for nearly 20 years and completely turned the entire franchise around to where they field one of the top offenses, defenses, and special teams units perennially now and are a SB contending favorite every year. And why, because you think free agency is like Madden and he can just magically get any player you think he should go get but doesn't? Sorry, you are just completely out of whack on your analysis of Beane. Guess you forgot what it was like around here before we were fortunate enough to land him and McD to completely turn this franchise around and make it place players want to come play now and a place our current players want to stay.

I would be good with this if we brought in Chark, he could be dangerous with Allen slinging him the rock

Taylor to Chiefs is a downgrade, not significant, and they lost JuJu, Clark, and probably McKinnon...all significant players in their SB run last year. Ramsey to Miami is meh, they were not one CB away from being great and still have a massive question mark with Tua and his durability. They were on a 4 game losing streak with a healthy Tua last time he was on the field too. Brown to Bengals would be significant in a vacuum, but they lost a lot of players in the process, and the thing that helped them the most to get buy KC the year before and Buffalo this year in the playoffs was their defensive effort where they lost the most of their players. And they lost Perine and Mixon is a massive question mark right now with the off field issues. Rodgers to Jets is about the only real significant move that truly poses a significant upgrade (in theory) in their direct threat on us. But, there have been plenty of these moves like this with late stage QB's that don't work out as well as people think, so they still need to show it on the field. Not to mention, Rodgers is going to hate the NY media if its not going as perfectly as the Jets fans expect. The sky isn't falling is the moral of the story. You can't look at all these moves in a vacuum, there are a lot moving parts.

No disrespect, but there is so much over exaggerated or even inaccurate in this post that I don't have the time to respond to it all. So just gonna casually walk by this one.

Then why has his YPC significantly declined for the past 2 seasons? He went from 5.0 to 4.3 once his OL started declining.

It’s amazing how many inaccurate and bad takes are in her about Hopkins by people who are ill-informed. “He's ancient” - He is only 6 months older than Diggs who we just gave a huge extension to last year that all of you loved. “He can’t stay healthy” - He’s had one injury in his whole career that made him miss time. 2021. Prior to that he combined to miss 2 other games only the rest of his career due to injury. “He’s washed” - He only played 9 games (due to suspension, not injury) in 2022. He had Murray for 5 games plus 2nd and 3rd string QBs the other 4. Yet his stats still project out to 120 receptions and almost 1400 yards over a full season. So many bad takes on Hopkins by the OP and several other posters who clearly don’t know as much about Hopkins as they think they do. Meanwhile: Davis isn’t even top 5 WR in his own division.

This might be the dumbest attempt at a LAMP troll thread I’ve seen in a long time. Why waste everyone’s time? This is the kind of thread that reduces the need to read anything else you’re gonna post in any other thread. It’s that bad. Good luck with that.

Those cap hit numbers are not accurate and are quite a bit lower as the new team only takes on the salary. Henry cap hit to new team is $10M in 2023 Hopkins cap hit to new team is $19.4M in 2023 That being said, it doesn't change the fact if either was to come here it would also include a restructure of some sort. Nobody is under the assumption we would trade for either with their current contract cap numbers.

Shocked you would be in this thread opposing something positive someone said about the team... ...said no one ever.

I really don't get what you are sarcastically trying to imply here other than it seems you are suggesting Hopkins won't stay on the field. And if that is what you are saying, that it's just not an accurate description of Hopkins at all given he has had one injury where he missed time in his whole career, in 2021. Prior to that, he missed a total of 2 games the rest of his career. He came back last year and played half a season, where he caught passes from Murray for only 5 games and then scrubs the rest of the games put up numbers that would be 120 reception and almost 1400 yards over a full season. So, unless I am wrong that you are implying he can't stay healthy, I don't really know how you get to these assumptions as there isn't any evidence to support it.

I would bring them both back. And if we only could choose 1, then I would bring Shaq back as he was playing pretty good in his role last year. Now that Jamaal is off the board, I would turn my focus to Hunt, Foreman, and Mattison. Any of those 3 would be nice pickups for us. I think Hunt is the most talented of them though and still only 27.

There is almost no chance Bijan gets to 26. I have no idea why so many people think he is falling that far, he might even go top 10. But he was never going to get to the Bills at 27 once he ran at the combine and silenced concerns about his speed. Bills fan need to forget about Bijan, its just wishful thinking unless the Bills move up in the draft to get him, which I highly doubt we would do for a RB. If by some miracle he does fall, then Beane can sprint to the podium.

Damn, I would have taken him at that price in a heart beat

This was what I was expecting, I like the signing based on what was out there.

And why would you say that?

I bet he goes higher now after that showing, as results like this can make teams drool at their potential if they can mold them as a player

Personally, I would have kept Meyers over JuJu for the same price dollar for dollar essentially.

This. #27 for Jeudy is just too much, and #27 plus something else is ridiculous. But if we get a good pick back with Jeudy, then sure sending the 27th pick starts to make sense. But you hit the nail on the head here, Jeudy has not lived up to his draft hype on the field. People blame the QB, but that doesn't excuse the drops and inconsistency catching passes. Any trade for Jeudy would be a speculative move on unrealized potential, not about on field excellence. I do not want to over pay for a guy we have to hope turns it up a notch here. We already have a WR we hope turns it around next year in Davis as it is. I would be excited to see someone like Jeudy added, don't get me wrong. But for me, it needs to be at a better price than Denvers reported "at least a first or more" for him. I mean that is what a proven stud in AJ Brown got traded for essentially. Jeudy hasn't shown anything close to what AJ Brown had shown when he went for more than first round pick. Even DeAndre Hopkins got traded for a 2nd round pick when he was considered a top 3, if not the best, WR in the NFL. Based on what Jeudy has done on the field, IMHO is really worth a 3rd, but according to reports that wouldn't get the deal done. But maybe a 2nd gets the deal done, and that is more palatable than our first. Or, like you said, send our first but get back a good pick with Jeudy so its more of a trade down scenario. If Jeudy got to reenter the draft this year, there are several guys who could be there at 27 who I would take over him.

I can not believe that’s all he signed for and we weren’t in on it. Young player with a real chance to break out now that he’s out from under the other 2 stud LBs in SF. He was my top target at LB. But hopefully we land Wagner or David.

He won’t have to wait on the ball to get there when it’s coming from Josh Allen as that would have been an easy TD