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Bills lost to a rookie Mac Jones after he threw just 3 passes last year at home. Kelly era teams had Thurman Thomas and a gritty OL. There is no reflection on how this team is built with an unreliable OL and barely existent run game. We wholeheartedly depend on airing it out. This current offense is not built for severe weather, it is a finesse offense, and severe weather has not done the offense any favors or shown the offense has any advantage over others. So, I stand by my point...the severe weather doesn't play into our favor offensively as an advantage, and that Mahomes and Burrow are equally capable of leading their offenses in the same capacity Josh is during bad weather games. Bills Mafia for sure does...but if we get severe weather, that actually neutralizes some of the home field advantage given our current offense doesn't play well in it.

Bills dont play well in those extreme conditions either. So whats your point?

I 100% gurantee if you polled the Bills locker room, coaches and players, on if they prefer to play indoors or outdoors in Buffalo bad weather, the vast majority will select in a dome. What we do best is tied up in a quarter of a billion dollar QB who airs it out. They want to win game, they want to play their best football. Dome is the better choice for true home field advantage where Bills Mafia can make it deafening and the Bills can play their best on the field. Not to mention, our biggest threats in the AFC, and likely will be for years to come...is Cincy and KC, both used to playing in cold bad weather. Don't matter now though, it is what it is.

And there you go...if they all had 112 targets, the list of drops looks quite a bit different. Cole was signed because Josh wanted help...and the drop rate shows why he wanted help.

We are getting short throw drops on critical downs to kill drives and remove points, that is bigger issue here. I am not confusing catch percentage...I am talking about guys who have plays to be made in their hands and don't make the plays. We don't have a duo of Waddle and Hill who can bail us out...we can not afford to drop passes and kill drives. Outside of Diggs, we don't have someone we can depend on to make a tough or contested catch on 3rd down. McKenzie is only good at running fast, he doesn't make touch catches, he goes down if the wind blows, and he can't fight for yards to get a first down. Not to mention, Cole is at the very least one of the most cerebral players in the NFL on the field, he understands how to adjust and get open and fight for a spot for Josh when he is extending plays. That alone is of value. McKenzie has a role...he is best suited as a 4th WR who can create a mismatch and get lost in the defense with his speed and make a play. He is not the guy you ever want to throw to in traffic if you don't have to. Cole doesn't need to give us 7 catches a game to have value...if he can help extend another drive or two a game with a key first down, that alone will be an improvement on what is going on now with the inconsistency of the offense. I think this was a good signing, him and Josh are close, and Josh asked for him to be brought back. That alone is enough to be happy Cole is back. Josh didn't ask for a favor to help his friend...Josh is the one asking for help...and he wouldn't be asking for help if he didn't need it.

Take away drops? LMAO...thats excatly why we signed Cole...to take away drops How many targets did Beasley have compared to the guys on this list?

WE LEAD THE NFL IN DROPS. WE LEAD THE NFL IN DROPS. WE LEAD THE NFL IN DROPS. If anyone is confused why we added Cole to the PS then check above and read that three times to yourself again. Or…read below: WE LEAD THE NFL IN DROPS.

Hurts deserves the MVP. It’s not really a debate right now. Could Allen storm back…maybe, but he would have to have a monster, and I mean monster game against both Miami and Cincy and beat them badly, not to mention do the same with Chi and NE too. And that still may not be enough to over take Hurts unless Hurts has a couple bad games here down the stretch. The reason…Hurts has not had any up and down games, he has 3 INTs on the season. But, who really cares anyway? I don’t care about the MVP, I care about winning the Super Bowl. Nothing else is important.

All that matters is he CATCHES the short pass instead of dropping it. If he can do that, it will be an improvement.

Really can’t figure out why anyone would have an issue with this. Slot WR position has been a let down. If he has nothing left he won’t get on the field. If he has something left, he will be mixed in and see what he can do. Either way, there is like zero risk here and only potential to help a weak spot on the offense. And he knows the offense and he knows Josh. I think this was a good move that presents no risk. He will be cut if he is incapable of contributing.

Yeah, I would agree with that too. He gets sacked a lot too just hesitating to pull the trigger. He really has some of the worst pocket presence I’ve ever seen in a starter.

My wife is a die hard Niners fan (who also cheers on the Bills with me) and we watched both games with Purdy. Here is the thing, the Niners offense doesn't ask a lot of Jimmy G to begin with. They are a run based offense with a YAC based short passing game where the QB isn't asked to carry the team and just make enough plays and not turn the ball over. Purdy so far has shown he is capable of being at least that. BUT...there is one major thing positive that Purdy brings to the table over Jimmy G. And that is Jimmy G is a complete statue in the pocket with AWFUL pocket awareness in terms of avoiding the rush. Purdy has already shown to be substantially better at moving in the pocket and also using his legs to extend and make some plays, including a rushing TD. So based on what I saw watching every Niner game this year, including the bad game by Lance where he got hurt, and every snap of both Jimmy G and Purdy...I can say Purdy gives me more confidence in handling the pass rush and extending plays with his legs. But that is also BEFORE any teams have any tape on Purdy...so we still need to see how Purdy does as teams game plan for him more. But right now, Purdy has done well and I think is capable of potentially being as good or better for the Niners offense than Jimmy G was.

To be fair, refs do throw a lot of criminal flags.

Knox has the highest catch rate on the team of any player. So, stats suggest you are incorrect in this assessment. Yes he dropped that final pass, but he is statistically more likely to catch the pass over anyone on the team.

This is not my draft grade per se, its way too early to know the draft grade on these guys. These grades are more about balancing their draft value on draft night, potential, and contributions thus far. Elam - 7 - He has shown promise and played well when we needed him. Injuries and return of Tre have him not playing right now, but I think that will start to change as the season continues. Cook - 7 - I almost gave him a 6, but given he is at least earning more trust from the coaches bumped him up one more point. Still high on this kids future, but right now he is still not seeing the field fast enough. He leaves a lot of yards on the field every week not seeing holes, cut back lanes, etc. He is certainly improving, but he still needs to hit the hole faster and has a tendency to go down too easy. Again, still high on him, just grading how he has performed YTD on the season. Bernard - 5 - Not had a lot of opportunities, but he has done some positive things when given a chance while also still having plenty to work on. Shakir - 7.5 - I am probably one of the biggest supporters and believers in Shakir, I was very high on him going into the draft thinking he would go 2nd or 3rd round. Getting him in the 5th was a great value, easily give that a grade of 9 just on that. But while he has flashed in a game or two, he hasn't found a role yet on this team. So the grade needs to reflect both his value in the 5th round and what he has shown us so far. So I met in the middle and went with a 7.5 as I have his draft value at a 9 and on field work as a 6. Punt God - 0...N/A Benford - 8.5 - I am giving him an 8.5 here because his value returned vs his draft slot has been very lopsided. He really helped us get through a slew of injuries and helped us win games. Tenuta - 0 - He has had no value to this team that I can think of. All in all, I think its been a promising draft so far with a lot of potential still to come. I think guys like Elam, Cook, and Shakir are going to keep growing into very good players for this team.

I get what you are saying, but it also is one of those blanket statements that lack context. In the playoffs, our biggest threats right now are easily KC and Cincy. Both play in bad weather and both throw as well as us in bad weather. And honestly, based on what I have seen, I would say they have shown to be a little better at passing in bad weather than us. They both have QB's who can both throw and scramble in bad weather and a deeper roster of more sure handed pass catchers while we lead the league in drops. I mean our 3rd WR is on twitter blaming wet balls for dropping 3 passes this week. So yes, do we have an advantage over some teams, sure, but not the ones who will be facing in the playoffs. It is at best a wash against those who pose the biggest threat to a SB birth in the playoffs this year. Don't get me wrong, love love love the fan base and its energy being there behind this team. But I am skeptical that the bad weather will actually help this team against someone like KC and Cincy given they are fully capable of everything we can do in terms of passing in bad weather. If we can establish a consistent and effective run game, I would be less concerned.

Honestly, my hats off to Mike White. And if I’m in that locker room, I’ve got a ton of respect for him. He was crushed badly three times, all legit and legal hits too. I mean he was beat up and knocked out of game 3 times and still kept coming back for more. Beat up so bad he had to go to hospital after game. The odds that team will go back to Wilson after that are about zero IMO. White likely isn’t the long term answer, but players will respect and fight for teammates who fight for them. Respect to White, he’s a tough SOB.

I think if you polled 32 coaches there, almost the majority would say it was a better bet to run the ball under the circumstances of this specific game. Oh don’t get me wrong, he absolutely should have caught the ball. Even if he does, I’d still be making the point it was too big of a risk versus the alternative of using up all their timeouts and asking Mike White to go the length of the field with 40ish seconds and no timeouts against this defense. Not to mention, still need to complete a 2 point conversion. And if Josh just runs there it’s at worst second and 5 instead of second and 10 making it more possible to pickup ip the first down still running the ball. To be honest, I think Josh had a shot for running for the first down anyway.

It wasn’t that easy for our offense to play in either. One of our players on Twitter using weather as excuses for dropping passes even. With us not being great at running the ball in these bad weather games, it makes me remain skeptical just how much of an “advantage” it really is for this offense to be at home in bad weather. Don’t get me wrong, the fans are amazing and stadium is amazing environment. But as much as we say it’s an advantage, end of the day bad weather is not a friend to what this offense does best either.

I think if you watch the play again you will see he was not wide open because Josh made a bad pass and shorted it and there was a defender there as a result.

I'm a lot more comfortable punting than I am turning the ball over. We have more turnovers from Josh against the Jets than we do blocked punts. The blocked punt earlier was helped by being backed up against the endzone too, not punting from the open field. I think if you did the math on the odds of a punt being blocked vs the odds a QB turns the ball over via fumble or INT it will prove punting is a far less risk. My point with McD is he is not going to throw anyone under the bus. And since there was no disaster outcome, there was not a lot to talk about anyway about the incomplete pass. It would be a much hotter and talked about subject if it had resulted in a turnover or allowed the Jets to at least score a TD and be in position to tie the game with a 2 point conversion.

Just curious...if that ball was intercepted, what would you be saying today?

Because with a sack you create the possibility of a strip sack by our QB who has been prone to fumbling. You also take away the likelihood of getting a first down running the ball when you are facing 2nd down and more than 10 yards. To be clear, I did not advocate for him to be fired, and this play call will not get any attention moving forward. What I was implying when I said he put his job in jeopardy when he called that play was referring to if we would have gone on to lose the game because of that play. Not saying his job is in jeopardy today because of it. Meant the play call opened him up for some potential real bad outcomes if it had not ended well. And lets be real here, if that timeout ended up helping the Jets tie and win the game in OT, this board would be melting down today with wanting to fire McD and Dorsey over that call...and probably Frazier too. End of the day...the risk in bad weather against a defense that we struggled to pass against for 2 consecutive games was a lot riskier than just running the ball 3 times and giving the ball back in the event we don't get the first down with no timeouts and 40ish second left on the clock for the Jets to try and score on our defense that was playing lights out against them.

Our option is already on the team, his name is Dawson Knox. What I would do instead is go find a dedicated blocking TE than can do it close to as good as Knox so we can then turn Knox loose in the passing game instead of primarily using him to block.

And if Josh fumbles in the rain or throws an INT...2 things he has struggled with this year...then what? Jets have a short field, over a minute to go, and 3 timeouts. I am not against kill shots...but there is context to every one of them, and they are not all equal. Our Defense was playing stout. Their defense was also playing stout, and the strength of their D is pass defense, especially with Q. Williams out of the game. You take a risk on a kill shot there when you fear you won't be able to keep the other team from driving the whole field with 40 seconds and no timeouts. There was no reason to fear that from the Jets. There was 100% reason to fear we could turn the ball over or not complete the pass given we struggled in bad weather all game to pass the ball again on this strong pass defense. This kill shot, under these circumstances was a mistake. And that is coming from me who is about as aggressive as it gets when it comes to taking chances in football. This was a moment in the game where the risk out weighed the reward given the likely hood of the Jets ability to drive the field with no timeouts in 40 seconds was much lower than the risk of turning the ball over or giving the Jets a little more help to drive the field by giving them a free timeout.