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I wouldn't say botched...any HC is going to be concerned when one of the most important players is not on the field for a mandatory event. I don't think there is anything McD did wrong, he was probably frustrated that what ever it was had not been handled so he could be on the field for this short mini camp yet.

I remember a time where the minicamp threads were active around here and exciting. Now...there is a 120 page thread on about 100 different conspiracy nonsense, none of which have any remote evidence of being true, instead of people in here excited to see things going well and in a groove. TSW in a nut shell. Its a shame that a thread covering now TWO Days of Mini-Camp hasn't even filled 2 pages yet...meanwhile the people obsessed with sewing discontent into Diggs and Allen are filling pages still in the other threads covering that hysteria. Thanks for the updates in here Beck and Happy...its great to see Knox injury seems insignificant and to see Diggs having fun out there already with his teammates.

Can you prove it's not? Von Miller said it was nothing big. Josh Allen said it was nothing big. Diggs agent said it was nothing big. Diggs is there today with no issues. So I think "fine" is an appropriate choice of words.

Oh no! Diggs is at practice and everything is fine. What is everyone gonna do now? Lmao

This thread is kind of hilarious. That amount of over dramatization, hysteria, middle school rumor gossip, and over exaggeration is quite entertaining. Let see…Allen, Von, Diggs agent, etc have all said it’s not that serious, not contract or football related. Yet despite that, there is absurd level of over exaggeration panic as if it’s some massive issue that is going to cripple the team. I think I’ll just patiently wait and see how things shake out because the most plausible scenario is this is minor and it will work itself out shortly

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No, I would have no issue signing DHop, would be excited. But I was responding to someone who said Beane has to sign DHop to change the narrative on Diggs and I said it would have the opposite affect

If they signed Hopkins all of a sudden the narrative is going to immediately be that it was some panic move because of issues with Diggs. We don't have any more money to sign DHop, doing so will not shift the narrative, it will look a lot more like insurance against Diggs issues.

lol, it would literally do the opposite

Got a real conundrum here: Until I know every posters IQ score and mensa forum handle, how am I supposed to know whose hysterical post to believe?

Ok Karen lol

Man, nothing brings you out like a negative angle. What is your need to over dramatize everything? Is it a concern, sure...is it as big of a deal yet as you want to make it out to be...no. Diggs wouldn't have even reported at all if there was a huge issue. So how about we pump the breaks on all fear mongering and exaggerating many of you are doing in this thread and just see how things play out here shortly. Then we will know if there is something bigger going on or if this was not that big of a deal ultimately.

How does one miss a 22 page thread at the top of the board on this very thing?

Yeah I even got an alert on my phone that said Diggs was there...so weird

What happen to the reports that he was at Mini-Camp from this morning? Yes my post was based on the concept he was there, which is what I got alerts on my phone about. So are those reports wrong or the ones that he isn't there wrong? I hate information in today's society, nothing is ever accurate Alright I deleted it...like I said, my original comment was based on the early reports he was there, which must have been false. If he isn't there for mandatory camp, then its a valid concern and story.

1 good play out of 20 does not equal a “good game” though.

I get where you are coming from...however...If a RB does nothing all game, but then has 1 run that makes his stats look good, did he really have a good game? This is why stats are such an unreliable way to analyze a players performance unless you are talking fantasy football where total stats are all that matter. The stats lack context. Even doing it the way you did it, it is misleading. 4.5 ypc is not only better than 2.9 ypc, but actually substantially better. So even using your mentality of lessening his big run to 25 yards, it still greatly skews the quality of his entire game with was substantially subpar outside that big run. Not only does it lack all that context, but there is other context too...was it a broken play? Did a defender fall down? Did the OL open a hole so big that my anyone could have ripped a long run?

Its been no DHop for a while now...but there are people who will run these threads up to 1000 pages before accepting that reality.

I hear ya, but honestly this is true for every team every year though when addressing a weak spot. Meaning you won't know until the games are played. KC didn't know either until they played the games when they bolstered their weak spots. And a major weak spot for us has been our DL in the postseason as well. We bolstered both units, so for Cowherd to act like we didn't is pretty silly. We added several new offensive lineman, including a 2nd round pick many thought would go in the top 20 of the draft. And while Ford was a miss, that is so long ago, people are way too hung up on that. All 32 GM's miss on players in every single draft, to hold this one miss over Beane's head as if it is an indicator he can't draft OL is kind of silly, yet this board just can't seem to let that go. And just about everyone loved that pick when it was made. In fact, I got flamed a lot in my mock drafts where I mocked us taking Ford in the 2nd because everyone said I was nuts because he would never make it out of the first round. It was a great pick at that time...sometimes those guys just don't work out. Last thing on Cowherd...its pretty silly to talk about Ed Oliver's extension vs spending on a big FA OL or something...they do not impact the cap in the same way at all. It is a lot easier to afford to extend Oliver than it is to spend big on a FA player cap wise. In fact, we gained cap space by extending Oliver. These two things are not comparing apples to apples. It's true and accurate to say we don't yet know how the OL will do...but it is false for him to claim it still is bad and we didn't address it. Biggest question mark is probably Brown, but we just also added some promising competition to the RT spot who could push him for minutes if he struggles. But, there is also still reason for optimism on him too with him healthy entering the season.

We had a rookie OC last year...that hurt as well. But he now has a year under his belt...and now we addressed OL this offseason. So not really sure why Colin thinks the OL is still a mess, we made upgrades there and added competition as well. Our defense has let this team down more in the playoffs than our offense has.

I will never understand why some people insist on making cases for players solely based on some stats they googled. Literally lacks all the context needed to evaluate a player and is totally an unreliable way to analyze a player. There are so many things Harty does better than McKenzie, but just checking a stat sheet without context isn't going to give anyone that information. Harty is a legit deep threat, a guy who can take the top off defenses. McKenzie stunk as a deep threat because he really didn't play up to his speed, tracks the long ball poorly, can't make a contested catch, and had unreliable hands.

You have this unreal level of denial of anything that suggests he might not sign here. I would love to see Hopkins here, but it’s just not gonna happen unless he plays for peanuts compared to what he was making and reportedly wants. Especially after signing Floyd and extending Ed.

I mean this is old news. Nothing new in there at all, they knew he spoke directly yo Hopkins a while ago. I don’t think they extended Oliver for Hopkins. They didn’t commit that much money to him just on the off chance Hopkins was to come here. There were plenty of other options to do that didn’t cost as much as extending Oliver did to make the cap room. So IMHO, Oliver extension has zero to do with Hopkins

Haha touche, nice one

It’s funny…400 pages between the two threads and the same people are still arguing the same info on both sides. Lol Hopkins discussion has to hold the record for dead horse beatings at this point lol