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Personally I thought heading into camp Elam was going to take that over just with the higher ceiling and he seemed to play well down the stretch and playoffs. But then Dane just really seemed to have a great camp and was leading the charge and felt like Benford we weren't hearing as much. But apparently Dane didn't seem to do anything to lose the gig (other than like you said maybe last years tape) in camp, seems Benford just elevated his play and over took the lead down the stretch of preseason. Seems to be a good problem to have, 3 guys who could start for us at CB2. I still think CB2 "starter" isn't going to dominate snaps like Tre does at CB1 where we will see Elam get on the field in man and press coverages or when they want more speed. But regardless, feels good to have great depth in the secondary overall

How is the QB play really that different this year? People keep saying this because Rodgers is here and Tua is healthy...yet we played Rodgers and Tua 3 times last year (Tua was healthy for both Bills games) and the combined to average 207 yards passing per game vs us while missing Hyde and Tre.

You know there was OT too? So you are saying Frazier had nothing to do with 13 seconds and OT in terms of calling the defense even though he calls the defense?

Well considering I have seen Fraziers defense fold year after year in the playoffs, its a safe guess.

We have had the number 1 pass defense over the past 3 seasons in the entire NFL with Hyde missing almost a whole season and Tre missing basically a seasons worth of games and being a shell of himself when he got back. I don't think the concern is a big as you think it is. This secondary is deep and also has a mix of young talent too.

It's going to be interesting to see Joe become the highest paid player in history and then not win his own division.

I meant expected since the last preseason game as Dodson played himself out of it IMHO.

No worries, no disrespect or offense taken, everyone has their own opinion BUT...You see, you just did exactly what I said others are doing. You just said Burrow took that team to a SB and completely glossing over how the Bengals defense somehow held the Chiefs to 3 points in the 2nd half of the AFCCG. Burrow and the Bengals were not keeping up with the Chiefs in the first half. But the Bengals defense shut down Mahomes in the 2nd giving the Bengals the opportunity on offense to do just enough to win that game. Again, Burrow is a very good QB, but he didn't have some crazy game. He had 250 yards, 2 TD and 1 INT and was losing 21-10 at halftime as the Chiefs were moving the ball with ease and scoring. Burrow was not going to be able to keep pace with Mahomes and the Chiefs. But then, Bengals did something that led to two 2nd half INT's by Mahomes and managed to hold the Chiefs to 3 points to give the Bengals just enough room to steal the game late. Burrow was on his way to getting blown out if not for the Bengals miraculous defensive performance and switch in the 2nd half.

Bernard was expected, and I will be rooting for him to rise to the challenge, but I have a feeling it will be short lived and Kirksey will take over in the next few weeks. Seemed like Dane was leading for CB2 most of camp and preseason, so the late push by Benford was a bit of a surprise and considering Dane had a great camp, that is encouraging that Benford did enough to still over take him. I still think Elam gets mixed in when they are going man/press type coverages or need more speed on the field, but what a story for Benford to be a late pick and over take a quality vet and a first round pick. O'Cyrus was a no brainer, he looked the part all camp and preseason. Really looking forward to seeing him in action and he is going to get thrown into the fire out the gate with his Jets front line.

No hes not. Does he have 5 years left at a high level...no. But doesn't mean he will for sure break down this year. I mean he could, every player is different, and some break down even younger. But this notion that because a player is 31 or 32 around here that they automatically can't stay healthy, play well, etc is so outdated. Its just not true anymore in the modern game. Lots of players are still playing at a high level at this age, its not some guaranteed automatic cliff it was 30 years ago.

Sounds precautionary more than anything...not too worried unless more comes out suggesting its a bigger issue

Joe is overrated. Gonna say it now. He is a very good QB, not saying he isn't good. But he has gotten overrated on the back of his teams success as if he is neck and neck with Mahomes, and he just isn't. Look at the KC game they won to advance to the SB. They didn't win because of Burrow, they won because the Bengals defense somehow managed to hold Mahomes and KC to 3 points in the 2nd half keeping the score low enough for the Bengals to creep back in and steal the game. Allen carved up that same D with ease the week before until Loosey Frazier and the D gave away the game with 13 seconds and OT. No question he was going to be the highest paid all time with this contract, that is just how QB contracts work. But Joe hasn't gotten it done while loaded with weapons, and he is about to start to lose those weapons soon because they can't keep them all. His playoff stats are underwhelming, but he gets propped up because the team won some games and reached a SB. But he gets all the credit for that, and its not really been a case where Burrow is lighting the games up. Again, one of the best young QB's in the league, not saying he sucks by any means. Just saying he is not in the same class as Mahomes even though that is the tier everyone wants to put him in.

Investing this much time into a troll job makes me think you need more hobbies

Was that $11M before taxes, his agent, business manager, etc all get their part of it or $11M he actually put in his bank account? And its not like 100% of that money is just there when his career ends, I mean they spend money during their career especially when they believe their career is going to keep continuing, and that doesn't mean they are blowing money either. I mean if it was before all that stuff, then he probably got closer to $5M and that is not a lot of money (nor was it then) to support your family for life. And that isn't taking into account any money spent on things while he was playing and had contracts thinking his career was going to continue. Just because he was working construction doesn't mean he was broke living pay check to pay check. He could have still had assets like real estate they owned, had money in the bank or invested, etc. He would still need to work to pay bills because the worst thing he could do is not work and just live on the money only. Most NFL players needs to work when their careers are over and won't have enough money to just live on for the rest of their life unless they reached a higher tier of success in their NFL career.

Has anyone ever seen @Airsevenand Nick Wright in the same room? Because I am pretty sure you are Nick Wright

You do know in BOTH regular season games last year the Bills faced Tua right? And those games, Tua passed for 184 yards and 1 TD in week 3 then 234 and 2 TD's in week 14. OMG Its Tua Armageddon for the Bills pass defense lmao. Rodgers? Ok, him joining the Jets certainly makes the Jets stronger no doubt. But the Bills secondary faced Rodgers last year and Rodgers threw for 203 yards, 2 TD's and 1 INT. So lets not pretend our secondary did not show well against Rodgers during this period where we have had the top passing defense in the NFL the last 3 years. And are you really suggesting Bill O'Brien is going to turn the Pats into some aerial attack force with Mac Jones and a weak group of passing weapons? A team that is geared up to be a run first team?

Not to be rude, but I think its safe to say that the GM's understand the cap and the roll over better than anyone here.

Over the last 3 seasons we have the number 1 pass defense in the NFL allowing just 200 yards per game. And that is with Hyde missing most of last year and Tre getting hurt in 2021 and then playing only part of a season last year where he wasn't the same player. As far as Tre goes, all reports have been pretty positive on how Tre has looked and seems poised to be much improved than he was last season. And now we have real quality depth at CB too with Dane, Elam, and Benford. At safety, Poyer was playing at an elite level last we saw him, so no reason to doubt his level of play. And Hyde is back and didn't take much wear and tear last year after missing most the season with the neck issue. Plus we also have Rapp who is a good player in himself again giving us depth at safety. So I see no reason why the leagues best pass defense over the past 3 years won't still be amongst the best again this season.

Because we only had one unproven corner when we drafted Elam that wasn’t Tre, and Tre was still out with a torn ACL. It was by far the biggest hole on the team on draft night and Elam was the only player left on Beanes board with a first round grade with our late pick.

Oh nice, I don’t think you got any preseason games with DirecTV if I am not mistaken

This matchup is tough and a good test out the gate for both teams. The good news for us is that the OL is still an issue, the receiving weapons outside of Wilson are mediocre, and Rodgers is still getting a feel for the players, offense and timing. But, we have our own new pieces integrating into our team as well, and when it comes to week 1, you never know who is going to shake the rust off and find a groove first given most the starters across the NFL barely see any action in preseason. Its funny, this list works two ways. One, you could see it as the amount of pressure on the Jets it all puts. Or two, you can see it as a lot of reasons for the energy to be high and the Jets to be fired up. It won't surprise me at all to see the Jets drive the field on their first possession and score a TD, to be honest, I kind of expect it. We saw this numerous times last season where the shout box would melt down like we were a 1 win team after an easy early TD drive by the opponent. Then, Bills adjust and clamped down most the time. Ultimately, I think the Bills win and it is going to be a situation where Jets start fast with all that adrenaline and energy, but then cool. Personally, I think it will likely be a close game late and Bills will eventually go up 2 scores in the 4th where the Jets just can't overcome and final score is a Bills win by 1 or 2 scores.

They do, 4 $100 payments if you don't have YouTubeTV and are paying the full $400 Don't worry about it, not all the apps look and feel the same on each device. For example, my netflix app looks uniquely different depending if I am using AppleTV, ROKU, Amazon Fire, Smart TV App, etc. Sunday Ticket isn't active yet, and won't see true layout until Sunday 1 hour before games begin. So it will likely work itself out by then and you will see all the games by then on both devices. All the device apps are built and run separately, so probably just wasn't updated on one of them yet with the game schedule.

You are going to get a lot of flack for this, and probably more so just given the Teller comparison as Teller has become one of the best at his position. But personally, I think Boogie has a real chance to get more opportunities there and develop. And he has shown some flashes, even this preseason. I watched an interview with Boogie early in camp and I came away impressed with him, his outlook, mindset, etc. Sometimes things like a change of scenery, new system, more opportunities, etc are all a young players needs. Look at Jerry Hughes, he was seen as a big bust in Indy when we traded for him and then he came in here and was a pretty good player for us for 9 years. Teller is a high bar to set for anyone, not many get to that level, so don't know he is destined to be the next Teller. But I also don't think the idea of him breaking out there is crazy. All that being said, he wasn't able to set himself apart here so regardless I think the right choice was to trade him.

It’s the thing I’m most excited about this season. Seeing the defense under McD rather than Loosey Frazier

I can see that, just more going off the camp reports that consistently talk about the hieghtened aggression under McD and what we saw from him when he has taken the play calling duties over from Frazier earlier on. It is honestly one of the most things I am excited to see come week 1, how the defense looks and differs from the past few years. Very curious and optimistic