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And yet you don't have to go.

Keep in mind, preseason isn't there to entertain and be watched by fans, its to evaluate guys trying to make a roster or fight for starting spots or roles.

Dont get me wrong, he would have helped us from a player stand point. And I have been very vocal about how our D is our biggest issue. But I also don't think he is worth that much money and how it would impact the roster moving forward. I also am high on our draft class on the D this year personally. I think we were right there last year, and honestly the refs flipped the game 11-15 points in the middle of the 4th in a game we lost by 3. So we were the better team last year IMHO and I think we got better this offseason than we were last year.

Yeah they had a much different cap situation - so I get why they did it. But I see a lot of people on here thinking that was super cheap and we should have made the trade. So I was just saying that its more than the compensation for the trade, its affording the insane contract. Personally, if you are going to pay a non-QB that kind of money, they better be god tier and have such an impact they can be attributed to several more wins a year. Micah isn't that guy, he is the modern day Derrick Thomas - a sack specialist who doesn't provide much to the defense outside that. And while I would love him on the team, he is no Myles Garret. I would rather have a Chris Jones than a Micah Parsons who also rubs people the wrong way reportedly too in the locker room with his off field public antics with his podcast and stuff. Micah is an elite pass rusher, but he isn't some god tier player worth what he just got IMHO - and they also gave up 2 firsts and a good player. TBH - I may be in the minority, but I think Dallas did this right. Dallas wasn't going to win it all with Micah, their defense sucks becuase they got a one trick pony star up front in Micah and CB who is flashy for INTs but gets torched a lot because he cares more about the INT than making the best play and gambles too much. Those were about to be their 2 highest paid players, and having them at their best hasn't resulted in their defense being much at all. Dallas gets rid of what would have been a massive cap anchor, gets back a good player and 2 firsts for a team thats been towing the line of needing a mini retool/rebuild for several seasons now because its not working as assembled. And the only reason they haven't is Jerry is so desperate to win again before he dies, he keeps trying to force the square peg in the round hole trying to keep contending fearing the time to retool.

They didnt just give up 2 firsts and a player, they also paid him $47m a year, that is a ton of cap space we dont have and franchise QB money for a guy who wont impact a game nearly as much as a franchise QB

I like em 🤷‍♂️

Are we down to 53 yet? Does this mean we kept 6 WR's or are we still not down to 53

Wonder where Micah is gonna stop today for his first basket of wings - Duffs, Anchor Bar, Bar Bill, Elmos, someplace else...

There is some talk that Raiders and Pats are talking a Jakobi for Dugger trade - so wonder if this is a sign there may be something brewing on that

Get out of the mens rooms, those floors are gross 😂

What did I miss? Was there a thread started and then merged here or something? If so what was the title of it before merging

Shocker! - said no one ever

I think this is the more likely case IMHO, but also wouldn't surprise me to see someone get traded either.

I still don’t think he leaves Dallas. But if he they did trade him, I hope we are in on the talks

There is so much arguing on so many things not Tre in this thread - can someone spare me the time or reading it all just tell me if there is update on his injury yet?

Brian Robinson Jr reportedly headed to the Niners. Odd trade for both sides - Commanders with big playoff aspirations and Niners just traded away Mason who was one the most productive backs in the league last year when he started for them.

Never said Cooper was the better player. I said he was their target and the contract was specifically stated as why he was the target. Sorry bud, but the D and C and all kinds of media claim we make offers all the time that arent true. So no disrespect, there is no credible evidence we ever tried to get Adams, or that it was a choice of who they like more Adams or Cooper. So again, you are free to your own opinions, and its all good, but IMHO there is almost no chance at all Adams was actually ever realistically in play due to the differences in contract.

Where are you getting we were in on trade discussions? Internet reports? Because Beane made it clear they were after Cooper long before we got him and tried multiple times to get him. Beane publicly said they reached out to the Browns early on and they were not interested. They kept calling, he was their target the entire time and Beane specifically stated it was Coopers contract on why they targeted him because they couldn't afford anything else. There are rumors and people claiming the Bills are in on all kinds of players that aren't true. There were rumors flying the Bills were trying to move up to get on of the big 3 in MHJ, Nabers, and Odunze in which Beane laughed that no one called him about moving all the way down to his pick and how he also never called anyone as they were looking to move down not up. So no disrespect bud, but I don't personally believe the Bills ever tried to trade for Adams as everything from our literal cap situation and Beanes specific comments about the trade all suggest Cooper was their target the whole time. Doesn't mean I am right, but I am just saying I really don't think Adams was ever at any point an option or choice where they chose Cooper over Adams. And for the record, I was all for trying to trade for Adams, just don't think he was ever on the table for us.

Just a player got traded doesn't mean it was an option for us. Adamas wanted to go to the Jets, he had a good relationship with the Raiders, they tried the Jets first and got a deal done. He wasn't really an option for us

Adams wanted to go to the Jets and Coopers contract was much easier to take on. I don't think this was ever an option.

Then he shook Max hand after - 🤮

Again, you wrote it - you said they were ALL less than WR4's. Nonsense. Lets talk about that last drive. On the final series we didn't convert, WR's were open on every single snap and the offense failed to get the WR the ball on 3 of the 4 downs. You do know that Curtis Samuel was wide open for a first down right? And it was Josh Allen who failed that play by getting his ball knocked down at the LOS. But thats the WR's fault? Even on the final play you realize not one, not two, but 3 guys (2 WR's and a TE) were WIDE open but our offense didn't know where the pressure was coming from and Josh Allen cheated the protection to the opposite side and the defenders came on a free release. So Allen couldn't get the ball to a wide open Shakir, who was wide open to the left right off the snap for not only an easy first, but more yardage after. He didn't have the time to hit the WR running wide open over the middle either for an easy first. And he didn't have the time to throw a clean pass to a wide open Kincaid that would have been a 40+ yard gain. Instead, it came down to Allen having to heave a miraculous ball well behind the wide open Kincaid who was playing on bad knees that needed to come back and get the ball and try and make a difficult angle catch which is a tear drop basket catch. YES he should have caught it still, but it was our failure to recognize the Blitz that ended up causing that play to happen in the first place. MEANWHILE - Our defense gave up 32 points to a team that did NOT score 30 the entire season in any other game and had 0 points and was down 5 scores in the 3rd quarter the very next week. So sorry, literally nothing you have said at any point in this thread is factual, realistic, or actually what happened. You are on this delusional Karen rant blaming receivers for why the game ended on the final drive when its not remotely close to what happened.

The only fact here is how ridiculous your original comment was that you’re now trying to glide right past and pretend you didn’t say something so ridiculous and now make it something else. Reminder you said there were no WRs on our team that are better than a WR4, really WR5 because you said you would even take any WR that resembled even a WR4 implying all our guys are less than a WR4. As comically absurd as that was, you actually said something more ridiculous when you said “I could care less about the score.” Weird the only thing that decides winners or losers is the score, that’s the entire foundation of sports. But you’re just pissing and moaning because they don’t score the way YOU want to score so therefore it shouldn’t count. Meanwhile - the highest scoring season in Bills history, a historically great offense, highest scoring team in the AFC reg season, highest scoring team in the AFC playoffs, highest PPG in the AFC playoffs, most total points reg season and playoffs in the NFL, even more than the 2 teams who played an extra game in the SB. But who cares right, let’s just go back to airing it out with turnover prone Josh where we scored less points and turned the ball over more despite having a top 5 WR. Because that’s what you want to do despite any rhyme or reason to it. Man the season can’t start soon enough

Its all good, none of us are obligated to agree with one or the other, and respect your takes and opinions and enjoy bouncing opposing thoughts off one another. But - my counter to this is that in a McD defense, Safety is a premium position and also currently is our weakest position. This defense would be noticeably improved if we had a player the caliber of Kyle Hamilton on it. And that isn't even a theory, the Ravens defense was not good the first half of last year, and it was moving Kyle that totally transformed the defense into literally the #1 defense in the AFC from that point on the final 11 weeks of the season. So I think where we can agree to disagree at is really how a safety should be valued. Now - where I would sort of agree with you is that I wouldn't say start to rebuild a bad defense by starting a Safety. But, a top end safety can have a big impact on a defense that has other pieces in place, and that is maybe even a bit more significant with team where Safety is a big part of their style like McD, the Ravens, etc.

I am surprised Forrest has not been more in the mix if they don't feel like Bishop or Hamlin is seizing the reigns yet. Personally, I think it was more they were really focusing on Bishop developing further to be the guy and just giving him as much opportunity to grab it and it was at the expense of guys like Forrest, but at this point feels like we should start seeing or hearing Forrest getting some chances with the 1's.