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I am trying to figure out what to make of Shavers - coaches really seem impressed, but I have also seen this story before when we had Hodgins here who would have strong camps but when it came to cut down time was always the odd man out. And that was without the stiff competition of guys like Samuel and Moore. I am highly doubtful we keep 6 WR's unless one is either a returner or ST ACE they feel like they must keep. We are going to likely be keeping more than in past seasons at places like DL and CB this year, making it that much harder to keep 6 at WR. So if Shavers makes this roster I think its more likely at the expense of one of Moore or Samuel. And both their roster spots are less secure now than they seemed to be earlier in the offseason thanks to injuries. The battle between Samuel, Moore, and Shavers will be very interesting to watch the rest of camp and preseason as I think only 2 of them make the team. Wouldn't surprise me to see Samuel traded either if they want to keep Shavers.

I think a deal is going to get done personally, especially after the deal with the Rams. But, either way, Cook I am certain still plans to play this year regardless, holding in is a MUST do for him at this stage because any injury in camp 100% kills his chance at a deal. But he isn't going to miss the opportunity to earn game checks, and more importantly, prove his worth to either this team or the next if we don't get a deal done. I am not currently the least bit worried about him "not" playing come week 1. Especially against Baltimore. I could be wrong, but I don't remotely get the impression sitting out games in the season is a real threat right now. I never expected him to even come to camp, too much injury risk while negotiating, but he wanted to put his best foot forward and show he wants to be here, and I do think that carried weight with Beane and the team and also the Kyrien deal helps reign in his ask too now. So I think the odds of a deal getting done are as high as they have been since the contract talks began.

Thst is beating him in the Redzone like that though, it’s tight quarters on those and those routes that’s as open as you’re gonna get generally

Curious if not Palmer and Coleman, who else did you think might take one of those spots over? For me it was always going to be those 2 and Shakir in the slot, and then Samuel and Moore would mix in and around.

More like the certain starters since Palmer was signed. Its never been a question who the 2 starting outside guys were going to be this year barring injury

I can’t wait to go read the original thread when this was announced and everyone was saying it was going to be embarrassing and that the main story was going to be how bad the WRs are lmao

If I had to choose one it would be HBO, but I will say Paramount+ has a lot of great original content too these days.

Great episode - as expected. This team feels destined for a special season

I get what you are saying, but I don't think its that clear cut the other 3 have better weapons. KC - Our offense had more talent on it last year. Injuries took away all their WR's and our OL is definitely better. Balt - I still prefer our 1-5 WR's than theirs. Henry is better than Cook. TE's are a little more in their favor, but OL is more in our favor. Cin - Yes, Burrow has better weapons - but also hasn't made the playoffs in 2 years with those weapons. We have a better team. So I don't see it the same personally, only Cincy has clear cut better pass catching weapons right now and they can't even make the playoffs.

Spoiler Alert: He was dead the whole time.

Oh thank god we got another WR thread - was really getting worried we were going to miss the daily quota for new threads about the WR's.

Oh it’s him, yeah I’m familiar with him just not the Rehearsal. Now I’m gonna def check it out

Thanks for the tip I haven’t heard of the Rehearsal until this thread, so def gonna have to look into that one too

Ive watched a bunch of these, that team really was good. One thing that has irked me all offseason is how many people keep saying its "All Allen", but when you watch recaps and highlights of last season they are LOADED with huge plays and individual efforts that were critical to a lot of our wins by guys all over the offense and even on defense. Allen is without a doubt the best player on this roster, but he isn't alone out there like so many like to imply he is.

Rome was excellent - only 2 seasons because it was at the time the most expensive show on TV to make and it set the table for shows like Game Of Thrones. Still one of HBO's best shows they did. I loved Boardwalk, but never watched the final season and keep meaning to go back and watch it but its been so long it would be better I probably just restarted the show. Same with Deadwood, only watched the first season. Loved it, but need to go back and rewatch and finish that one too.

It won’t be boring, it’s a show focused on the players, the people, the team, behind the scenes. It’s not a show focused on camp news, player evaluations, etc. that we mostly discuss here. While some do that naturally is covered, it’s not the meat of the show. I can’t wait personally, and the couple clips that have come out like Tre Messing with the water boy, all look fun and entertaining.

Haven’t seen either yet, but Chernobyl is one I’ve been meaning to jump on one of these days. I’m not familiar with Sharp Objects, but will check it out.

Lot of great content on HBO Max - its worth having IMHO and it also is something that often is included free with cell phone plans or other subscriptions too, so check your cell carrier for discounts or free throw ins. I had it free for years when I was with ATT, but I am with Verizon now and I get it in a cheap bundle with some other stuff. Sopranos - epic, top 3 show all time IMHO. Succession - One of the best shows of the past decade IMHO. Game of Thrones - Best of its genre House of Dragon - Also great, same world as Game of Thrones Barry - Excellent - Great balance between comedy, drama and action - more comedy than anything. The Wire - one of the best of its kind. Curb Your Enthusiasm - Uncensored and politically incorrect "Seinfeld" - its excellent. Silicon Valley - Rewatching this again now actually and still hilarious. Entourage - Another all time great comedy loosely based on Mark Wahlberg and Are Emmanuel (head of WME) The Wire - one of the best of its kind. Eastdown and Bound & Vice Pricinipals - if you like Danny McBride, two hilarious comedy series True Detective - Season 1 especially (each season is different and independent from the others) White Lotus - All seasons have been really good, each season is also different and independent from the others for the most part. The Night Of - One of the all time best limited series shows IMHO The Jinx - Awesome docuseries following alleged killer Robert Durst There are a lot of other great shows, limited series, documentaries etc all depending on taste, this is just more of a hit list I would start with. Its really got some of the best original content of any content provider out there IMHO. Agreed Barry and Succession are two of the best original shows on there for sure. I haven't watched Veep, but Curb is an all time fave for me too. Life and Times of Tim and Ten Year Old Tom are often overlooked gems lol. I still need to watch the Last of Us one of these days. NOTE: Unrelated to HBO - just on the topic of shows - Just finished the first season "Mobland" on Paramount+ (by Guy Ritchie) and it was awesome.

This is good news for us and Cook IMO, this is a fair deal and one that should help get one done here.

All good, but you had chimed into my convo where I was stating Brady is the GOAT but I don't know for sure who was the actual best QB to ever play on a given Sunday in their prime. And there are people who watched Graham and Unitas who will insist they are also in those conversations. I cant say they deserve to be or not as that is before my time, but I do know there is a legit question which QB was better in their prime on any given Sunday in Joe and Tom despite acknowledging Tom has earned the GOAT title through all his accomplishments.

Ok - well we can just move on since we are not talking about the same thing, all good

You are not having the same discussion. The debate is not who was the GOAT - I verbatim said its Brady, and I agree, its not a debate. The question here is, in their prime, who was the actual best QB to stand on an NFL field on any given Sunday. Take away the longer career and therefore longer resume, just 2 guys in their prime - who would be the best QB on that field. And no disrespect, that is where you don't have the insight to weigh in on that as you didn't watch Montana play. I watched every game he played practically - My dad had 3 loves in his life - His kids first. Niners 2nd. TV show "Dallas" 3rd. Wife - somewhere down the list lol. When the Niners or the TV Show "Dallas" were on, you could only ask him yes or no questions during commercial breaks. I watched just about every Niners game Joe ever played and I can tell you that it is NOT certain that Brady was actually better than Joe was in their respective primes. Brady is the GOAT without question - But who would be the best QB in a head to head battle in their primes is very much open for debate. See my reply to Gunner - you are having the wrong debate. Not debating Brady whether Brady is the GOAT, he is, and said so in every post. The question is who was actually the best QB in their primes. And I am not saying its even for sure Montana, I am simply saying is a valid question and debate.

I am pretty sure you also didn't watch Montana play as from my recollection you were not watching football back then and didn't become a big fan until much later. So no disrespect, if my recollection is accurate, you can't reasonably weigh in on this having not watched Joe's entire career. I watched both, and I can tell you 2 things: Brady is the GOAT, no other QB has a career resume that can match because he played longer and through that accomplished more than anyone. May never even be equalled. But - It is not so clear who the best QB was on the filed in their primes on any given Sunday. To be fair, I have the same issue at RB when IMHO Barry Sanders is the clear GOAT at RB - But I also didn't watch Jim Brown play and can't really refute when someone argues he was for example. Basketball has a similar debate - Lebron is going to hold more records, more stats, more Finals appearances, etc than Jordan because he has played longer between coming out of High School and still playing at an elite level this late in his career nearly 40 - but doesn't mean he was a better player than Jordan. But depending on how one views them, an argument can be made both ways. But no disagreement, Brady has the resume to lock down GOAT title, and deserves it. Still doesn't mean that head to head in their prime he was a better than Montana. I am not even saying it was Montana, I am just saying it is a legitimate debate.

Geesh thats a borderline playoff roster on the injury report lol

Its also a team sport, a QB can only control so much. But the reality is, QB's get the most credit and the most blame - and the only games people weigh the most are the Championship games. Montana's path to the Super Bowl was a lot tougher than the paths Brady and the Pats repeatedly faced too. And once he got there he didn't lose. Not saying its bad Brady lost, but its just how things are weighed. Lebron gets it held against him too how many times he got the finals and lost when compared in GOAT conversations too. Winning in the finals elevates ones status exponentially, and losing in the finals/championship doesn't really - and when compared to other greats who didn't lose, it comes up and factors in some what, fair or not. Look at Burrow, no one talks about how he made one SB - one which he lost with the ball in his hands - and now they just talk about can he even make the playoffs this year after missing the last 2 despite having one of the best set of weapons in the league.