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Yeah and Dan Orlovsky did multiple nice break downs actually of how Dorsey had motion without purpose. Which was a big issue in his eyes where we are motioning guys and then not using the information gained from the motion to attack the defense and would just simply run a play. And I think that was the heart of Dorsey's failures...he ran plays, not an offense. He was a first time OC...he entered the job without having a proven offensive scheme and design. It reminds me of writing a cookbook before you have cooked any of the recipes. Everything about our offense under Dorsey felt a lot more like a script than a fluid offense coaching, motioning, attacking, and adjusting to the defense in front of them. When Dorsey was asked why he wasn't going to the up tempo offense earlier and more often, his answer to why he switches to a slow it down style was to "not be predictable". Ironically, that might be the most predictable thing about him.

I absolutely would have done it after the Giants game, but the nail in the coffin should have bene the Pats game when he for the 2nd week in a row ran Murray from shotgun on 3rd and goal inside the 1 and again lost yards and then we came away with no points on a failed 4th down attempt. We just QB sneak there we likely score as you got 2 tries at it. And we lost that game by one score...so that could have been the difference in the game. I would have relieved him of his play calling duties at half time then fired him the next day. I mean to do it 2 weeks in a row was mind blowing.

All good, this is just where I think we see him through different lenses. I am not a McD apologist, and I do think that his job going into next season should be in question depending on how the rest of this season goes. But, also, I don't have this underlying disdain for him that other posters do and take things in through that lens. So I don't at all get these types of impressions from him and I watch just about every press conference and interview with him, other coaches, and our key players every week.

I watched all the press conferences and interviews of McD (including this one), the players, Brady, Frazier, etc all season and especially the last few weeks and through Dorseys firing. And some things have really stood out for me and these are some of the impressions I cam away with: McD and the team want to see Josh use his legs more and the emphasis on the lack of running seems to be more Dorsey centric. McD and multiple people have alluded to getting his legs more involved and that threat for the defense to have to account for. They don't want him to take unnecessary damage, but the threat of him running is a huge part of what makes him special and they know that. Dorsey led offense just didn't have the same energy and fun which may have to do with the intensity and seriousness of Dorsey. Josh Allen has had the emotion coached out of him in an attempt to tame the turnovers and it has backfired. Josh himself has talked about this and everyone including McD has talked about getting that fire, intensity, and swagger back for Josh. McD wanted to be an aggressive offense, but Dorsey's attempt to fix the offense was to try and switch up from up tempo to slow it down football through out the games which just wasn't working. The offense had become predictable and wasn't putting our guys consistently in the best positions for success. I don't know if Joe Brady is the answer...but I am more than ever convinced he was 100% not the answer and the switch needed to be made. The last 6 weeks this offense has averaged more than 14 PPG less than it did the first 4 weeks. Thats an insane drop when there were no injuries involved and the change was inevitable. Personally, it should have happened sooner, but in season changes are tough decisions so I get the hesitation.

No disrespect, but I don't see that at all, in fact, seems to be quite the opposite. This statement feels more like a view point of someone who already wants McD gone who will take any and everything in with a negative lens to confirm that negative bias.

What does your comments above have to do with what you responded to? Answer...nothing. And I didn't say a single word of what you just wrote either. So this reply makes absolutely zero sense to the post you are replying to.

Well that is one less team we need to worry about tie breaker issues on.

The lengths this board goes to in regards to making up false narratives to fill their bias opinions and negativity never ceases to amaze me.

Good news is this that this mock draft won't remotely resemble that actual draft, they never do. So I wouldn't put any stock into where we "need" to be in the draft for X position or player based on early mocks not remotely accurate to what will actually happen.

Funny thing is I know Phil...and I can tell you there is no interest for him in getting back into sports for him right now, so yeah not gonna work out lol

I have a similar dilemma in one league...Hurts vs KC and that stingy defense or Howell against the sad Giants. Right now I have Howell in my lineup

These days this board is like 95% made up false narrative and hysteria…3.5% assumption or speculation…1.5% factual substance.

What this is more of an indicator of is exactly why Josh is both special and can throw some INT's. There are not a lot of guys in the NFL who can make this throw, maybe only Allen and Mahomes can do it with any consistency. Most other QB's this is a guaranteed turnover as the margin of error is tiny and you need the arm and athleticism to even make it possible without it being a turnover. When Allen is on, he hits these all day and so easy that it's almost missed just how incredible and difficult of a throw it was. When he is off by even a hair or late by even a hair this would be one of his INT plays. And the reality is Josh makes a LOT of these throws...and he succeeds way more often than doesn't on them. It is what makes him special. What makes him turnover prone is how OFTEN he HAS to attempt these throws because of the offense. That does not absolve Allen at all on some of his decisions, but the fact is, when the play design, scheme, etc is so easy to defend, it forces Allen to make more of these heroic throws. Look at Mahomes, he has the ability to make most of the same insane throws Allen does, he is just forced to do it less often than Allen is either from scheme, design, predictability, pass protection, etc. I am really hoping to see some more creativity and scheming to get guys open for easier and rhythmic throws by Allen instead of rolling out and having to fling a mind blowing pass so often.

Lets put an end to this train before the false narrative train leaves the station. Madden MUT has seasons. Every season has a different cover athlete. This happens every year. This literally has 0 to do with Josh Allen. Josh Allen is still the cover on the print edition.

My only point is that his brothers text have not at all been representative of Stefons thoughts thus far, he has been wrong every time and just tweeting what he wants, not what Stefon wants. So to jump to a conclusion that his tweets (which happeend before Stef could have even spoken to him as Stef was still with the team on Monday night football) were Stefs words has no logic behind it other than creating a narrative without any substance.

You realize his brother was tweeting to get his bro to Dallas BEFORE Diggs signed an extension keeping him in Buffalo long enough to retire there right? And yet Stef still signed his extension to stay. His brothers tweets mean nothing, why are people trying force and create narratives all the time? Stef is literally causing no waves of any kind yet this narrative persists. Except the tweets happened while Stef was still with the team meaning he couldn’t have spoken to Trevon before he tweeted that.

No disrespect but that is evidence of nothing. That’s another opinion piece

Lets see...what was Fitz #1 comparison when he played? Farve minus the talent. What is the number 1 comparison right now with Allen? Farve minus the MVP's and SB trophy. The last thing we need is a turnover prone gunslinger type like Fitz to try and fix the turnover issues with Allen. I love Fitz, and love the idea of Fitz on this staff, but this just doesn't feel like the solution to the areas Allen needs to most improve on given they were the same issues Fitz had, he just didn't have the talent and gifts Allen has to over come them as much as Allen has. And we need to not waste Allens prime anymore an inexperienced people. Get Allen a PROVEN OC who fits his game and this team if Joe Brady doesn't prove he is the guy the rest of the season.

Lets see...Beane, Allen, McD, Dorsey, and half the Bills players have all publicly said many times that Allen needs to slide more and take less contact. Not to mention everyone in the media and fan base. So to say that McD is meddling because there was an emphasis for Josh to take less punishment does not equate. More importantly, McD did not say he needed to stop running, nor did Beane...what they wanted to see was for him to get down once he got the first down rather than take a big hit to try and gain a few extra yards. To reduce the "unnecessary" contact when he can. Dorsey is the one choosing not to run Allen and coach that out of him. McD has also said he wants to be aggressive on offense, so this other narrative that persists around here that he doesn't also is incorrect. So sorry...this notion McD is "meddling" in the offense doesn't have any substance to it other than that is the narrative people want to jump, and most often by those who are already critical of McD to begin with and just looking for more confirmation bias. Every HC in the NFL has input in all phases of the game, McD is no different, but this was Dorsey's offense, play calling, and scheme.

I agree with this. This is where I feel like people just ignore what is flat out known, said, communicated, etc and just make up their own narratives. McD has been the first to hold himself accountable his entire time here. But people just ignore these things and create new narratives that are not reflective of the facts of the matter just to fill a bias opinion they have. Like you said, self accountability is not one of the concerns or issues with McD.

Remember when we got 0 points on the half yard line because Dorsey ran the ball in shotgun for the 2nd time in back to back weeks on 3rd and goal inside the 1? We just sneak that for a TD we are up 2 scores on that last drive and it doesn't matter. Not to mention other drive killing issues that also kept points off the board. All good though bud

We aren’t far apart…but I’m just more that the offense put the defense in those positions from sucking. The last 6 weeks the offense is avg 14 points less than the first 4 weeks. We didn’t lose any games by 14. If offense was not so anemic last 6 weeks we win all those games despite any defensive struggles is really my side of the convo. And the offense is healthy and has no excuse where the D is hit hard by injuries.

Why do people complicate things and try and create narratives? McD said straight out it was his decision alone, stop trying to invent new narratives when they straight tell you the answer. And it was a move that needed to happen given how poorly the offense is playing and how inconstant the offense has been in scoring points. When a super power offense on a team with SB expectations averages about 8-10 points LESS per week for 6 straight weeks (and it’s actually 14 points less than the offense avg first 4 weeks) causing you to have a losing record against the weakest stretch of opponents on your schedule…you lose your job. That is the NFL. Don’t like it, then don’t suck and do a better job. Dorsey earned this firing as he has been unable to fix whatever is holding the offense back as this offense has shown for a long time it can score a lot of points. Dorsey could not get it back to scoring points consistently and Dorsey was let go. It’s not rocket science here.

I still respectfully disagree. Bottom line is in all 5 losses the defense did enough for us to win over the course of the game and the offense did not. The only reason those opponents had a chance to drive and win was because the offense crapped the bed those games. If Giants score on last play who’s the loss on? Defense who held the opponent to 15 points or the offense who managed just 14 points at home against the worst team in the NFL? Our offense has continuously put our severely injured defense in bad positions in every loss and even some of our wins. If the offense is just normal in the 5 losses then we are undefeated, they didn’t even need to be great, they just needed to not suck. It’s been by miles the biggest issue of this team this year despite being healthy.

Except McD isn’t meddling in the offense. Not sure why this narrative persists.