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If they don't let Josh get back to being Josh...or help him get back to being himself and less reserved, this team won't make the playoffs. After the devastating injuries, the defense isn't good enough to make up for any deficiencies by the offense, and Dorsey isn't good enough to lead this offense to its potential without Josh getting back to playing free and instinctually out there. We won't beat Cincy, KC, or Eagles having just 1 TD midway through the 4th quarter. Those teams will all be able to score on us, and 2 of those teams have stout defenses as well. So the offense needs to be clicking on all cylinders and be at its best for us to have compete and win those games. Then you still have Cowboys, Chargers, Miami, Jets who are all capable of beating this team with the issues we have on defense and the way the offense is sputtering. So, unfortunately, the last 3 weeks have moved my pessimistic needle quite a bit, mainly because I don't trust Dorsey to get this offense back on track with sustained consistency. He didn't do it last year and so far hasn't done it this year. So our best chance is turn Josh loose, let him play free and make those crazy throws few or even only him can make. Let him take off with his legs and truck or hurdle a guy when necessary to get a big first down, Josh feeds off that stuff and is the most fired up when making those kinds of plays. It's time to give Josh back his swagger and mojo and let him go do what he does or this team is going to be in trouble unless Dorsey suddenly becomes an OC genius.

There is no "excluding Josh Allen" this week...this teams will need the Superman mentality Josh Allen this week to get the offense right.

Personally, I think it would be absurd to eliminate the "tush push" play. I mean how soft can they make this game? Just because one team is dominant in how they run it shouldn't result in taking it out of the game. I mean are they going to take QB draws out of the game too? Its not much different, especially from a safety stand point.

No, I’d still like to see Gabes snaps reduced and Shakirs (and others) increased further. 95%+ of snap count to average 3 catches is not a good use of snaps. The over obsession of thread titles around here always cracks me up.

I mean isn’t Cook avg like 4.8 YPC behind this line?

But what would Henry average here with Allen and the pass attack? With Titans they have to key in on stopping Henry, here they can't do that. So can't really compare the YPC, two different situations. I think Henry could average over 5 here running in this offense.

If being forced to choose between DHOP and Henry, I would have taken DHOP during the offseason, but now I would take Henry. I don't know that DHOP changes the offense much, this is a complicated offense and it would be the 3rd offense in a year he has had to learn. Takes time to build rapport and trust with a QB, so coming in mid season I don't know how much impact he makes compared to if he had been here the whole camp. Henry coming in as a RB is a much easier integration and I think Henry impacts everyone else by opening up the field more too as they will have to respect the run. More importantly, I don't trust Dorsey to find ways to get DHOP the ball where as Henry you just hand it to him. So I am leaning Henry, although I wouldn't be against DHOP either.

Haha well I wouldn't get your hopes up too high, he didn't tell me he was headed here, just that he heard some chatter about us being in the mix.

He works for an NFL team. I do have multiple sources in sports media too though, including my wife

That is a fair point...but what would Gabes stats be if he was on the Titans and the #1 WR? I have a feeling not much better, if not worse, than DHOP's. I mean Davis has Allen, in a pass happy offense that he knows well, and is playing 95% of the snaps and only avg 3.1 catches per game.

I didn't say they agree with me, I said they at least agree Shakir needs more snaps.

Im not proposing anything here...just sharing info. Interesting day over here...A buddy called me earlier today who has also been a source of some info in the past (for example he was the one who leaked the Rams vs Bills season opener last year to me a month early) and he just he heard some chatter potentially linking Bills and Henry today. I just got home right now from being out and about for a little bit running errands and I got a text from a bookmaker buddy of mine about how the Bills are now the betting favorites in Vegas to land Henry at 2/1 odds. My immediate comment to him was to ask him if that is just because Beane freed up some cap space. He said it's possible, but more likely Vegas at least heard or caught wind of something suggesting at least interest rather than just make that move over a small cap move. So take it with a grain of salt...but just found it interesting that in the same day Beane freed up cap space Vegas made the Bills the betting favorites to land him. Did a quick google search to pull up the odds and found this link right away. https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-bills-trade-rumors-odds-derrick-henry-tennessee-titans#:~:text=Buffalo is granted a 33.3,(%2B300%2C 25 percent).

Literally once again not at all what was said or what the post was about. Reading helps.

With that being said, do you have someone in mind that you think fits that description and would be a realistic trade target based on our potential interest (cap considerations included) and potential availability?

I honestly have no idea what he does or doesn't do for a living or what kind of analysis or posts he has made previously as I can't recall seeing any other posts by him. All I can go on is what he said here, and for no reason he started with unnecessary personal digs from the get go and through his rants managed to say things that not only do I disagree with, but some were just factually wrong. So regardless of what his alleged profession is, all I can go on is what was said here and my replies are solely based on what was said here, and based on that I stand by what I said and disagreed with.

Fair points on Shakir, but the staff has felt Shakir warranted more snaps and has tripled his snap count since week 1 and Davis has not had less time on the field. So that tracks with what you are saying here. But this offense needs more out of a guy on the field 95% of the snaps than 5 games of 1-3 catches and 3.1 rec per game avg. I just think Davis has too many limitations to dominate the snap count that much, and I went to Shakir first because he has shown some nice blocking ability this year, which is one the things people defend Davis with which has been his ability to block. Whatever the answer is, I think Davis having his snap count drop from 95% to 75%-80% would benefit the offense if it means we are getting guys on the field who offer more diversity in the route tree and more consistency in other areas of the field.

Fair points, but that doesn't fully absolve the anemic offense for the last 3 games against the easier part of our schedule.

I mean thats a good start. But you are still focused on there being no boundary WR, which isn't what needs to happen. Shakir and Sherfield can play the boundary on some snaps, it doesn't always have to be Davis. Heck, even Harty can mix in there a few snaps to stretch the D. I just think they need more rotation with Davis because to lead the team in snaps well over 90% and avg just 3 catches a game isn't helping Josh often enough. 2 games with 1 catch while playing opposite a guy like Diggs who is consistently drawing extra attention is just not good enough. We need more production from a guy on the field 95% of the plays or we need to reduce that percentage some to get other guys on the field who may contribute more in other areas of the field.

Here is what I will say about Knox...he gets more heat than he should around here. He has had the highest catch rate on the team, better than Diggs prior to this year. The issue with Knox is sometimes when he doesn't make the play its been one that hurt and those resonate more and leave a bigger impression. But overall, hes been a very good TE and is someone who should have been even more involved in our passing offense the past 2 years, but the poor OL situation didn't help as he is often had to be used as an extra blocker to mask those deficiencies more. So IMHO, I think he deserves a little bit of the benefit of the doubt here as he has shown he has been a more reliable pass catcher prior to this year and this injury.

You don't have to have two traditional boundary WR's on every play. Like I said, its not about replacing Davis, he would still be the primary boundary WR opposite Diggs. But the offense needs guys who can get open in other areas of the field where Davis struggles, and getting some of the other guys more snaps who can help in those areas like Kincaid and Shakir is something I think would help Josh and this offense. Davis has 3 catches or less in 5 of our 7 games despite having the highest % of snaps on the entire Team and Diggs facing frequent double teams. He literally averages 3.1 catches per game on the season. Getting over 90% of the offensive snaps on a pass happy team with Josh Allen should result in better than 3 catches per game (two of which he has just 1). Our rookie TE Kincaid gets over 30% less snaps per game than Davis, and has played one less game and yet still has 3 more catches than Davis who dominates the snap count. The biggest issue with Kincaid is that his yards per catch is a putrid 7.7 ypc, but that is IMHO a Dorsey issue and how they have used Kincaid.

Flawless logic lol...like responding to a headline and not understanding the premise of the post and making up your own narrative instead? Never at any point said to replace Davis with Shakir who is a slot WR. I said that Davis 96% snap share dominance, which has been consistent all year, even more than Diggs, should go down to get other guys more opportunities to get on the field like Shakir who have been making plays when called upon. And the coaches seem to agree since Shakirs snap count has increased every week since week 1.

He is the #2 WR...on most teams that is going to be true. Saying he caught more than McKenzie, Football Jesus, a rookie WR they didn't use, etc doesn't mean a whole lot.

Except I did, but it doesn't land when you don't understand or know as much as you think you do.

Ah, gotcha, my apologies, I misread that and thought it was for all 7 weeks, thanks for clearing that up. Still the scoreboard still doesn't reflect offensive success, especially early in games. So something needs to change and the slow starts the last 3 weeks against weaker competition is an issue with the tough part of our schedule still to come.

You have 1 play...literally one final play from the ONE yard line. No time for more than 1 play, just a single play. You can run or pass in this situation and your starting QB is out. Lets see...maybe put the ball in the hands of your best player in Saquan. Bills were allowing a poor YPC to running backs all season and were missing their best run stuffer in Jones and their all-pro LB in Milano. You also just paid Barkley because he is the most important player on your offense. Not running Barkley there was dumber than the not running Lynch on first down in the SB and throwing it instead for an INT to end the game. And if you are going to pass...why are you not taking advantage of Tyrods ability to run by rolling him out and seeing if he has a throw or maybe can run it in if not? Daboll put the game and the ball in the hands of a backup QB who hasn't played a meaningful game in years and was never a great passer when in his prime and doesn't have great vision to drop back and fire. But Daboll is allergic to doing the smart thing, and prefers the tricky. And it has cost his teams wins in the past just like it cost him a win against the Bills. And as far as the first half goes...again you have a backup QB in who hasn't played a meaningful game in years. The coaches called an option there where the QB had the option to call out of it into a run. They should have made it clear to TT that optioning to the run was not an option, TT isn't a coach, it is not his job to clock manage.