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yeah they are the worst

Why does everything have to always be so dramatic lol. How about not over reacting to a week 1 game instead, win or lose

Here is the thing, you are asking this question on each position before this team has even played one meaningful snap, let alone a whole season. We wont even get these answers after this first game, so it can't truly be answered until the season is over. So today, its just opinion and speculation. And for me, my personal opinion is that I think Gabe Davis is going to prove to be the best WR2 this season Allen has had thus far opposite Diggs. So to me, WR1/2 combo is already better than 2020 at the top 2 spots. Then Sherfield for me is a lot better than people realize and I think he is going to prove to be the best WR3 Allen has had yet. Then you have Harty who is a lot better than McKenzie in terms of actual WR talent as the best WR4 Allen has had, but of course he needs to stay healthy. Still have upside with Shakir too, but just those top 4 spots to me is better than 2020. Then if you add in Kincaid, to me its not even close anymore. But I think we are better at WR without factoring in Kincaid. And don't sleep on "better depth" either, not having the depth in the past has been a major achilles heel for us. So, I can accept that you need to see it on the field first, and heck, even I do, this is just what I think today based on what I expect at each position. So its just my opinion because you are asking these questions before this roster has had a chance to show where its better or worse.

QB: Little better just because Josh last year was hurt and Josh today is further in his growth than he was 2 and 3 years ago. RB: Better, I think this is the best RB group we have had. How much better is yet to be seen until they hit the field, but on paper its better and deeper overall than any of the past 3 seasons. WR: Better, this is the best set of weapons Allen has had in his career without factoring in Kincaid. Sherfiled and Harty and better than people realize IMHO and Gabe seems ready to have his best season yet too. OL: Inconclusive. 2020 was probably the best group thus far, but this group is unproven but has the potential to be the best unit so far, but need to see it on the field. DL: Better. This is the deepest and best DL we have had yet. Even if Von isn't as good as he was last year when he gets back, we are deep in the middle and the edges. Most of our depth could start on other teams too. LB: Worse. How much worse is yet to be seen, but I think Kirksey is going to help stabilize it some here soon and will take over the MIKE. CB: Better. This is the deepest secondary we have had, our top 4 corners could start on several other teams and Tre seems to be nearing his old self based on camp reports. S: Wash. I would say the age argument works and could say worse, but I think having more depth with a quality player like Rapp offsets that some. ST: Worse until proven otherwise. Hard to say here, we got a lot of new faces on ST, so can't really say, but they did lose some of their staples on the ST unit, so safe to assume they won't be as good until we see how the new faces settle in.

I think the Lions are coming out hot to make a statement against the champs and will win this game.

Love this piece and the insight! I feel like this team has a chip on its shoulder now rather than the media darlings they were entering last year, and I like that and think it’s a good thing.

Personally I thought heading into camp Elam was going to take that over just with the higher ceiling and he seemed to play well down the stretch and playoffs. But then Dane just really seemed to have a great camp and was leading the charge and felt like Benford we weren't hearing as much. But apparently Dane didn't seem to do anything to lose the gig (other than like you said maybe last years tape) in camp, seems Benford just elevated his play and over took the lead down the stretch of preseason. Seems to be a good problem to have, 3 guys who could start for us at CB2. I still think CB2 "starter" isn't going to dominate snaps like Tre does at CB1 where we will see Elam get on the field in man and press coverages or when they want more speed. But regardless, feels good to have great depth in the secondary overall

How is the QB play really that different this year? People keep saying this because Rodgers is here and Tua is healthy...yet we played Rodgers and Tua 3 times last year (Tua was healthy for both Bills games) and the combined to average 207 yards passing per game vs us while missing Hyde and Tre.

You know there was OT too? So you are saying Frazier had nothing to do with 13 seconds and OT in terms of calling the defense even though he calls the defense?

Well considering I have seen Fraziers defense fold year after year in the playoffs, its a safe guess.

We have had the number 1 pass defense over the past 3 seasons in the entire NFL with Hyde missing almost a whole season and Tre missing basically a seasons worth of games and being a shell of himself when he got back. I don't think the concern is a big as you think it is. This secondary is deep and also has a mix of young talent too.

It's going to be interesting to see Joe become the highest paid player in history and then not win his own division.

I meant expected since the last preseason game as Dodson played himself out of it IMHO.

No worries, no disrespect or offense taken, everyone has their own opinion BUT...You see, you just did exactly what I said others are doing. You just said Burrow took that team to a SB and completely glossing over how the Bengals defense somehow held the Chiefs to 3 points in the 2nd half of the AFCCG. Burrow and the Bengals were not keeping up with the Chiefs in the first half. But the Bengals defense shut down Mahomes in the 2nd giving the Bengals the opportunity on offense to do just enough to win that game. Again, Burrow is a very good QB, but he didn't have some crazy game. He had 250 yards, 2 TD and 1 INT and was losing 21-10 at halftime as the Chiefs were moving the ball with ease and scoring. Burrow was not going to be able to keep pace with Mahomes and the Chiefs. But then, Bengals did something that led to two 2nd half INT's by Mahomes and managed to hold the Chiefs to 3 points to give the Bengals just enough room to steal the game late. Burrow was on his way to getting blown out if not for the Bengals miraculous defensive performance and switch in the 2nd half.

Bernard was expected, and I will be rooting for him to rise to the challenge, but I have a feeling it will be short lived and Kirksey will take over in the next few weeks. Seemed like Dane was leading for CB2 most of camp and preseason, so the late push by Benford was a bit of a surprise and considering Dane had a great camp, that is encouraging that Benford did enough to still over take him. I still think Elam gets mixed in when they are going man/press type coverages or need more speed on the field, but what a story for Benford to be a late pick and over take a quality vet and a first round pick. O'Cyrus was a no brainer, he looked the part all camp and preseason. Really looking forward to seeing him in action and he is going to get thrown into the fire out the gate with his Jets front line.

No hes not. Does he have 5 years left at a high level...no. But doesn't mean he will for sure break down this year. I mean he could, every player is different, and some break down even younger. But this notion that because a player is 31 or 32 around here that they automatically can't stay healthy, play well, etc is so outdated. Its just not true anymore in the modern game. Lots of players are still playing at a high level at this age, its not some guaranteed automatic cliff it was 30 years ago.

Sounds precautionary more than anything...not too worried unless more comes out suggesting its a bigger issue

Joe is overrated. Gonna say it now. He is a very good QB, not saying he isn't good. But he has gotten overrated on the back of his teams success as if he is neck and neck with Mahomes, and he just isn't. Look at the KC game they won to advance to the SB. They didn't win because of Burrow, they won because the Bengals defense somehow managed to hold Mahomes and KC to 3 points in the 2nd half keeping the score low enough for the Bengals to creep back in and steal the game. Allen carved up that same D with ease the week before until Loosey Frazier and the D gave away the game with 13 seconds and OT. No question he was going to be the highest paid all time with this contract, that is just how QB contracts work. But Joe hasn't gotten it done while loaded with weapons, and he is about to start to lose those weapons soon because they can't keep them all. His playoff stats are underwhelming, but he gets propped up because the team won some games and reached a SB. But he gets all the credit for that, and its not really been a case where Burrow is lighting the games up. Again, one of the best young QB's in the league, not saying he sucks by any means. Just saying he is not in the same class as Mahomes even though that is the tier everyone wants to put him in.

Investing this much time into a troll job makes me think you need more hobbies

Was that $11M before taxes, his agent, business manager, etc all get their part of it or $11M he actually put in his bank account? And its not like 100% of that money is just there when his career ends, I mean they spend money during their career especially when they believe their career is going to keep continuing, and that doesn't mean they are blowing money either. I mean if it was before all that stuff, then he probably got closer to $5M and that is not a lot of money (nor was it then) to support your family for life. And that isn't taking into account any money spent on things while he was playing and had contracts thinking his career was going to continue. Just because he was working construction doesn't mean he was broke living pay check to pay check. He could have still had assets like real estate they owned, had money in the bank or invested, etc. He would still need to work to pay bills because the worst thing he could do is not work and just live on the money only. Most NFL players needs to work when their careers are over and won't have enough money to just live on for the rest of their life unless they reached a higher tier of success in their NFL career.

Has anyone ever seen @Airsevenand Nick Wright in the same room? Because I am pretty sure you are Nick Wright

You do know in BOTH regular season games last year the Bills faced Tua right? And those games, Tua passed for 184 yards and 1 TD in week 3 then 234 and 2 TD's in week 14. OMG Its Tua Armageddon for the Bills pass defense lmao. Rodgers? Ok, him joining the Jets certainly makes the Jets stronger no doubt. But the Bills secondary faced Rodgers last year and Rodgers threw for 203 yards, 2 TD's and 1 INT. So lets not pretend our secondary did not show well against Rodgers during this period where we have had the top passing defense in the NFL the last 3 years. And are you really suggesting Bill O'Brien is going to turn the Pats into some aerial attack force with Mac Jones and a weak group of passing weapons? A team that is geared up to be a run first team?

Not to be rude, but I think its safe to say that the GM's understand the cap and the roll over better than anyone here.

Over the last 3 seasons we have the number 1 pass defense in the NFL allowing just 200 yards per game. And that is with Hyde missing most of last year and Tre getting hurt in 2021 and then playing only part of a season last year where he wasn't the same player. As far as Tre goes, all reports have been pretty positive on how Tre has looked and seems poised to be much improved than he was last season. And now we have real quality depth at CB too with Dane, Elam, and Benford. At safety, Poyer was playing at an elite level last we saw him, so no reason to doubt his level of play. And Hyde is back and didn't take much wear and tear last year after missing most the season with the neck issue. Plus we also have Rapp who is a good player in himself again giving us depth at safety. So I see no reason why the leagues best pass defense over the past 3 years won't still be amongst the best again this season.