Alphadawg7

Seriously, why are you so pompous to everyone? Literally almost your entire mock is wrong and yet you are still here acting like a whiney child. Your 2nd overall pick wasn't even drafted at all. You were wrong on almost your entire mock. And were even wrong about Kincaid lasting to 27, something several of us thought was unrealistic. We had to move up to get him. But because the player you guessed on for the Bills ended up on the Bills (differently than how you mocked though), you are running around all these threads acting like whiney child chastising anyone who dared not agree with your almost entirely wrong mock draft. Seriously...starting threads is not for you. You are way too defensive and emotional

Bottom line was that Kincaid is not supplanting Knox as the starting TE though, which was what I was objecting to that you had originally said. Beane even said, Kincaid is not being brought here to block, he is gonna be used more like a receiver than a TE while Knox remains as the taking the traditional snaps at TE. They won't really be playing the same position is the point.

Kudos for listing Kincaid first, you definitely had that part right that he would be the BPA on Beanes board if he was there. And I don't think there was much doubt Kincaid would be BPA at 27, but I think most (myself included) never believed Kincaid would reach us with teams ahead of us like Detroit, Packers, Chargers, Vikings, and Cowboys that could have all easily gone TE. However, Beane said none of the other guys on your list were in consideration and he was trading back if Kincaid was gone and that Kincaid was the only one left with a first round grade. So for me, its just kinda weird to take a victory lap on someone being chosen off a list that mostly had wrong players on it. But I will give you the kudos for at least having Kincaid listed first, which was accurate.

My biggest want is Cody Mauch, but I don’t think there is any chance we get him without a sizeable trade up as I expect him to go early in the 2nd. But you never know, draft has been unpredictable. Either Simpson or Sanders would be a nice get, or maybe Downs at WR too. Branch or Porter Jr also would be sweet, but both should go early in the 2nd.

I don’t think that is a realistic expectation

A lot of us were high on Woolen too, I was pounding the drum for him in the second until we took Elam.

Knox has 15 TDs the last 2 seasons despite only averaging 68 targets. He has the highest catch rate on the Bills too. And he’s a very good blocker. if they gave him the same targets as the TEs ahead of him he would have the production. You can’t catch what isn’t thrown to you. Kelce had 2.5X more targets thrown his way. Kittle had poor stats when Jimmy G was QB this year and was more a blocker cuz Jimmy was a statue. Once purdy brought mobility in, they released Kittle more and he had a bunch of big games with Purdy. Knox is our starting TE, in the traditional sense. Kincaid is not going to be blocking and will release and be a receiving weapon. He literally can’t do what Knox does as a blocker. So Kincaid is not supplanting Knox, they won’t be used in the same way.

Beane said he had a trade down in place if Kincaid was gone, so wouldn’t have taken Mayer. He was the last player he had a first round grade on left on the board.

Literally my same feelings. I’ll remain cautiously optimistic, but yes all my concerns 100% stem with Dorsey making him a big enough part of the offense. If he succeeds at that, then this could be a major weapon. If he doesn’t then we have $13m a year in Knox and 1st and 4th in Kincaid not returning enough value in Dorsey’s offense. But IMHO Kincaid was the BPA at 27, so I feel good we took the talent.

Huh? What does Knox draft slot matter? Only fans think about that. Come Football time, where Knox was drafted 4 years ago is irrelevant. And they just gave Knox $13m per. And he is the superior blocker. Knox will be TE1, Kincaid will be TE1.5 who will be used more as a big slot than replacing Knox as a TE.

Just curious, when? I watched the clips of him being on tonight and he didn’t mention Hopkins, but they are just clips

I think he means who Knox is today…15 TDs the last 2 seasons. Don’t get me wrong, that poster is still wrong. Kincaid has a better receiving arsenal, Knox is more of a complete TE (very good blocker)

When we jumped the Cowboys I knew it was Kincaid, cuz that was only reason to do that. And based on BPA, he is the right pick based on the board. I felt he was the best player still on the board overall. I would have been happy with Anton too given Brown is still a big question mark. I really wanted Addison but wasn’t surprised when he didn’t get past Vikings and felt he was gonna be someone we would have had to trade up for. Love Kincaid the talent, just hope Dorsey is better at incorporating talent into the offense this year. Last year he struggled to use Knox, Cook, Shakir, Hines, etc at times we could have really used more involvement from them.

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Maybe I will put you on ignore, you’d be the first. I was nothing but respectful to you, but you’ve been nothing but a pissy child when anyone had another opinion than you and always try and drag things to the mud for no reason. I mean I even just gave you kudos on the Kincaid pick.

Lol, you really shouldn’t post things for comments if you are gonna take them so personally and be so emotional. Good call on Kincaid, I think the part you forget is that people were only skeptical we would take Kincaid over a WR if both were on the board given how much more interest Bills were showing in a receiver. In the actual draft, all those 4 were gone. No one was ever doubting the talent of Kincaid though. I just now hope Dorsey finds a way to make him a relevant part of the offense and maximizes his potential. That has always been my sole concern about a TE in the first, would Dorsey get him enough targets. Good news is, sounds like they may use him more of a big slot rather than a traditional TE which I hope comes true.

My guess only JSN and Addison were on his board as a first round grade

I think this kid has big time potential. I’m excited about his potential, just hope Dorsey figures out how to get him meaningful targets. I was frustrated we didn’t use Knox more last year when we weren’t getting good enough play from the slot. Talent has arrived, now the pressure is on Dorsey to make this kid an important part of the offense. I do also love adding another big target for those cold weather games too.

Eagles are killing this draft

Love adding a weapon, now hoping we still go get Hopkins. I just hope Dorsey figures out how to get this kid a meaningful amount of targets

Yup I even posted that in the shout box. I don’t hate adding talent and he’s a real talent, but pressure is now on Dorsey to better incorporate the TEs we have into the offense.

Now with Addison gone and Ravens taking Flowers, I think Hopkins is gonna be a Bill personally, which is what I wanted from the get go, so hoping that’s what happens

I think so too, but hoping it’s Flowers to maybe keep them out of Hopkins deal in case Vikings snag Addison

Surprised they didn’t go TE there. Hoping Ravens go Flowers here

I still think both Chargers and Cowboys go TE