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Josh Allen could throw 7 TD's this week and run for 2 more and he couldn't win the MVP anymore. I suggest everyone turn their focus on getting playoff Josh back from 2021 and hope he can get to the big show and win SB MVP...regular season MVP ship has sailed and its meaningless anyways outside of me winning my every year Allen MVP bet I make the past 3 seasons. Make no mistake about it, Josh's odds of winning MVP are zero. Its Lamars. BUT...this is NOT a complete picture of Allen. Its utterly absurd to talk about Allen's production and not include his legs. If you do, he is at or near the top of the league in total yards and he has most total TD's in the league. Lamar is gonna win MVP and his production of his legs is being counted in that decision too. So to not include it for Josh is absurd and like talking about McCaffrey as ONLY a RB and not taking into account his receiving production for example.

People dumping on Dalvin doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Breece was healthy and always gonna be the primary ball carrier. Dalvin was there to be another piece in a Rodgers based offense that could run and catch the ball out of the backfield. But Rodgers went down and all that was left was a terrible OL, QB, and OC. Dalvin doing little in a low use scenario on a truly awful offense doesn't mean he is shot and couldn't still have some value to a contending team. Don't be surprised if KC or Balt sign him for the post season. He would have value on both teams right now.

This is heavily skewed for Dorsey over weeks 2, 3, and 4 against 3 bad defenses. The other 7 weeks (Jets plus the final 6 weeks before he was fired) the offense only averaged 19.5 PPG and was terrible. I keep saying this over and over...stop looking at the season totals/avg of Dorsey led offense, its a false answer and does not reflect just how poorly the offense was playing the majority of the year. 19.5 PPG for Dorsey in 7 games against the weakest opponents on our schedule. 28 PPG for Brady in 6 games against the hardest part of our schedule facing a tough defense in every game but 1. Look at like opponents: Jets - In 3 games, Dorsey led Bills offense avg 17 PPG and was 1-2 including 2 losses to Zack Wilson. Brady hung 32 in 3 quarters and our starters sat most the 4th quarter in a blow out win that would have been likely 40-48 points had we not benched our starters for the 4th. So sorry...this stat box above does not remotely illustrate the difference the offense has experienced since Brady took over. We are avg over 8 more PPG in Bradys first 6 games compared to Dorseys final 6 games. Bills were 2-4 (and got lucky to not be 0-6) during Dorseys final 6 games with an inept offense and were out of the payoffs. Under Brady, we are 5-1 and should be 6-0 if not for gaffs made that had nothing to do with Brady and are playing for the #2 seed next week. None of that makes Brady the end all be all, but it DEFINITELY makes him a much better option than Dorsey was. Even when the offense struggles, we are still scoring more points and winning close games compared to losing them because we couldn't put enough points on the board.

His draft slot is irrelevant. He offers more on the boundary than Beasley did too. He needs more slot reps. But I do agree Kincaid limits his targets with how much Kincaid plays there

But with the trainwreck we had at the slot last year, getting him more reps to help his development should have been a no brainer. Either way, he is more involved now, and he earned that on the field, and hope he continues to see increased targets and becomes more of a player they look to get the ball too like Beasley was.

Dorseys season totals are skewed from 3 games of football, I have told you this, but you choose to ignore it. The offense was atrocious in the other 7 games of football played under Dorsey this season. Week 1 and weeks 5 through his firing the offense was bad and averaged under 20 ppg. I don't care about 3 games weeks 2-4 against bad defenses and mostly bad teams. I care about the BULK of the season where the offense averaged less than 20 PPG and was 2-5 in those 7 games and had us out of the playoffs. You want to play make believe and pretend his "season total averages" are the real offense, then go ahead. But those numbers did NOT reflect at all how the team was really playing for 6 straight weeks as it played itself out of the playoffs until he was fired and the offense majorly improved to 28 PPG against harder defenses and the toughest part of our schedule. There isn't a single fact that can be presented that remotely suggests Dorsey should have kept his job over Brady.

I was banging the drum on him all offseason and all season long and really since the moment he was drafted. He should have gotten more opportunities last year, but Dorsey just wasn't good at utilizing the talent on the roster. He continued to ignore him for the first part of this season too, and had he not, Shakir might be closer to 700-800 yards. He just keeps making plays, and I would like to see them still get him more involved, I think he is capable of playing a Beasley role here and could deliver that level of production if he had the target share to do so.

Dorseys final 6 games and Bradys first 6 games the offense is averaging 8 points more per game. That is a massive difference in the NFL in scoring very difficult to achieve even with an entire offseason to overhaul an offense. To pretend like the offense isn't significantly better over what Dorsey's offense had become is laughable. Sure, Dorsey's offense SKEWED its season total because of 2 1/2 games of football (2nd half week 2, week 3, and week 4) against bad defenses...but then it fell off a cliff never to recover. Dorsey led offense lost to BOTH Zac Wilson and Mac Jones in the same season. Dorsey led offense was 1-2 vs the Jets (both losses to Zac Wilson) and avg 17 ppg in those 3 games while Brady's first game against the same team scored 32 and benched its starters for almost the entire 4th quarter in a blow out or we would have probably scored 48+. Dorsey over his final 6 games was 2-4 and we got lucky on final play of both wins to not be 0-6 during the weak part of our schedule because the offense only averaged a pathetic 20 ppg. Since then, we are 5-1 and should be 6-0 (not Brady's fault) becasue even when the offense has some sputters he finds ways to still get points on the board using the run game and Allens legs...something Dorsey couldn't manage to do even when 3rd and goal from the 6" line where instead of sneaking Allen he twice ran out of shotgun to lose yards in back to back games. Dorsey was a major problem, to pretend he wasn't tells me that person is just rooted in being negative about all Bills decisions. We went from 11th seed and out of playoffs to playing for the division title and #2 seed in 6 games of Brady taking over the offense in the hardest stretch of our schedule in the NFL against multiple legit defenses.

This. Previous 6 games before Dorsey was fired, the offense averaged 20 PPG and went 2-4 most of which was against bad teams and weak defenses. First 6 games under Brady, offense is avg 28 PPG and is 5-1 and should be 6-0 if not for some gaffs unrelated to Brady and his job. Against NE, the offense sputtered, but honestly, it was mostly on Josh Allen and the other players. Josh had one of his least accurate games I can recall him having since his first year in throwing the football. Can't fault Brady when Allen couldn't deliver the ball accurately most of the game. It happens, some games even the best QB's just are off for whatever reason, even the great Mahomes has had games like that. And THIS is actually the massive difference between Dorsey and Brady. When the offense isn't executing on the field, Brady adjusts and gets other things going like Allen and his legs, the run game, etc to find ways to get points. Hence why a down game under Brady is still in the mid 20's compared to 14 to 17 points under Dorsey. The offenses floor under Brady is way higher than Dorsey, and that has literally been the difference in winning some of these closer games and losing them under Dorsey. Unless the offense just gets completely out coached like Dorsey did on the regular, then I highly doubt Brady's role here as OC is in any real jeopardy right now.

That wasn’t the discussion…he was defending Dorsey and saying he should still be here. Which is just ludicrous

So you ignored the facts I see and went on with a weird crusade for a well deserved fired coordinator. I find it funny when you few Dorsey defenders refuse to acknowledge that his season totals were skewed by 2 and a half games of football (2nd half of week 2, week 3, and Miami week 4) while the other 7 1/2 games were atrocious showings by his offense. Brady has got the offense avg 8 points more per game and is 5-1 in those 6 games compared to the 2-4 Dorsey offense against weak defenses that avg 20 PPG. Going back to last season, Dorsey faced Jets 3 times and the offense avg 17 PPG and was 1-2 vs them. Brady’s first game against Jets we put up 34 in 3 quarters and benched our starters for the 4th in the blow out. There is literally no defense of Dorsey. There isn’t a statistical defense of him, can’t use wins, can’t use any metric that shows the offense was better off in his hands. I honestly can’t fathom how you’re making this argument right now. We were in 11th place and out of playoffs under Dorsey and now we are heading into final game playing for the 2 seed and divisional crown again. It’s like you’re Dorsey in disguise or one of his relatives. Because no one else could possibly think he should still be here over Brady. It’s like not even close, debatable, or anything.

He leads the NFL in total yards and total TDs…yeah he sucks.

Not really? Push an agenda over a fired guy? Lmao c’mon dude. Dorseys last 6 games against the weakest part of our schedule our offense averaged 20 PPG and we went 2-4 with both wins getting lucky on last play not to lose. In Brady’s first 6 games offense is avg 28 PPG against the toughest part of our schedule and we are 5-1. The only one “believing what they want to push an agenda” is you. Ohhhh those pesky facts right lol

And on the scoreboard and the win column.

He was.

True, and that is why it’s good he’s coming back now, to get some. Games under his belt and hopefully get closer back to where he was as we start rolling in the playoffs. We also don’t need him to be who he was with Linval here now. If he can bring value as a rotational piece it’s going to be a big gain for us. If he gets back to close to where he was by 2nd round of playoffs or AFCCG, then even better. If we do make the SB, odds are it’s gonna be to face the Niners, and having him back with 5 games under his belt will be huge for that game.

OHHHHHH HELL YEAAAHHHHH!!!! This is amazing news!

It makes no sense from a developmental or a team stand point...but it does make sense from the point of view of a desperate HC trying to find a way to save his job. Rivera is probably desperately hoping to show he can win with better QB play and that QB play has been the issue and not him to try and survive another season.

I doubt Bills will be underdogs against Miami. Josh Allen and company have had no problems handling the Tua and Hill show with the lone loss being under extreme circumstances and Tua and Hill were still held in check. Especially after Bills smashed Miami earlier in the year with a bad OC.

My predictions for this weekend, week 17. 1 - Bills clinch playoff birth. 2 - Dolphins lose to Ravens and we control our own destiny for both the division and number 2 seed. GoBills!!!!

Without even checking I can tell you right now that the person giving you an eye roll is almost certainly @Airseven

Who in the AFC is definitively better right now? Bills can beat anyone in the AFC. Will they, well that’s what we will find out. But to say they can’t be is just absurd and is just more about being stubborn to stick to the negative bias you already have. They just beat KC and Cowboys, who at the time they played them were both considered legit SB contenders and top 5 teams. But you act like they lost their last 5 games.

Huh? Has nothing to do with the coaches exterior energy you may or may not have observed. It’s about the players having and playing with renewed energy from having a new coach. Nobody is talking about the coaches sideline demeanor but you lol.

Your reasoning keeps getting worse

KC has one of the best defenses in the NFL. If you think an offense must score 30 every week against even the best defenses then you are delusional in your expectations. We went into KC against what was then the number 1 seed in the AFC, with the best QB and one of the best defenses in one of the toughest places to play and win a tough close game and scored 20…and somehow that’s not good enough for you? LMAO, that’s just absurd.