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No, not a fact, that is you just another assumption/opinion being pushed as a fact. Dorsey was fired last year because we were 5-5 and lucky not to be 3-7 because 2 of our "wins" our opponents blew the game winning play on the final play of the game (Giants and Bucs). And in those 7 games (the 5 losses and the 2 near losses) our opponents record was a paltry 52-67 (.436 win %) and the Bills offense averaged a pathetic 19.8 points per game against that weak slate of opponents. So no, its not a fact that we "consistently put up points" under Dorsey nor was he ever good at making adjustments, something many of us had been complaining about his first season as OC and entered still concerned about in 2023. Dorsey always tried to force his plan and would not adjust. He had movement with no purpose, and that was one of the single biggest changes under Brady. Lol, that is not why Dorsey threw the tantrum. What he blew up about was the fact that our OL was not able to get set to spike the ball and kick the game winning FG on what would have been the final play of a very emotional and difficult game. And on that final drive we only had 4 healthy OL and they were gassed and had no one to sub in resulting in Tommy Doyle having to be the 5th guy out there who played the final 5 plays on a torn ACL that he tore in that game just so we could have 5 offensive lineman for the final drive. And...Despite 500 yards of offense, we still only put up 19 points and lost. Beane did not intend for him to be the starter, he signed Crowder, a proven slot player to come in and compete for that spot and then drafted Shakir to be the future of the spot. But Crowder got hurt and that changed the situation. Nope...so much of the Dorsey hate was because we were 5-5 (and lucky to even have 5 wins) and well out of the playoff race going into week 11 because the offense was averaging 19.8 points per game against BAD opponents in 7 of our first 10 games. And this was after he had an uninspiring first season as an OC already. He was not good at using the personnel on the roster, he was not good at making adjustments, he was not good at movement with purpose pre-snap, he was not good at creating consistency within the offense. None of that excuses McD from any criticisms, but this notion people had misguided anger at Dorsey is just not at all remotely accurate. Agree @GunnerBill about your description here and like I said above, that was against our weakest stretch of our schedule as well where we should have been blowing most of those teams out instead of losing or squeeking out wins.

I really enjoyed the Giants offseason one and so far this Bears one is also off to a good start. My wife knew about Owens and Biles where I found out during the show, so yeah that was a cool segment that both her and I enjoyed. I thought the segment with Saban was really good too and it gave great insight into what really goes into developing a QB in the NFL that is coming in as a highly drafted rookie with high expectations. Funny you mention the shots of Chicago because the first thing we said in the opening of the show was about how it just reminded us how much we want to go to Chicago still as neither of us have been before but have always wanted to go. There are some restaurants that are on our list there like Alinea, Monteverde, etc we want to experience as well. We have a 15 month old son and a 2nd son due in October, and our plan is to take them every year to see a Bills game and a Niners game (my wife is die hard niners fan) but also take them places like Wrigley Field and other historic and iconic sports venues across the country. So that coverage of Chicago just also got us amped up about that as well. All in all, I definitely enjoyed the show. I would have liked to have seen more coverage of Rome Odunze though, he was one of my favorite players in the draft. But I expect we will see more of him as the show goes forward as I get why Caleb got so much screen time in the first episode.

No disrespect, but this is a creative way to create a narrative. "After Josh" is just a way of not counting Josh given you still counted the rest of his draft. So out the gate that makes it appear even more skewed defense. Then you left 2 drafts out where 3 of the 4 picks were offense in TE, OL, and WR. So if someone was to lay out the full draft history it would be 14 draft picks...7 defensive and 7 offensive. But writing your way changes the narrative to look more defensive heavy. The past 3 drafts we have gone 4 offensive players and 2 defensive players with our first 2 picks. So it’s been a clear effort to prioritize the offense in the most recent years as Josh has been entering his prime.

I liked it

He has gotta make the roster first and he’s not doing himself any favors by having maybe the most inconsistent camp of the WRs seriously competing for the final roster with days he has the dropsies again like yesterday.

I live in LA and all the buzz has been good on Tre around here. He’s having a good camp and he is obviously well liked as well as he is a fun guy. Rams are one of those teams that could prove to be tougher than people think. Will be interesting to see how they do this year. Rams used to be my second team until I married a die hard Niner fan lol…and with how much she supports the Bills and my fanhood it’s only fair I do the same for her…but it will still be fun watching Tre here this year who was always one of my faves.

I mean the offense isn’t going to win every practice unless our D is a train wreck. Both sides will, and should, have their days, doesn’t mean our offense is “figured out”

My guess would be Benford. Nothing against Benford, but Douglas IMHO is probably our best corner, at least heading into the season.

He was back to dropping balls today, easy ones. IMHO the only locks right now are Keon, Shakir, Samuel, and Hollins. MVS for me still has to earn a spot, including having to contend with Claypool who is kind of the forgotten man with his being out with a toe injury. That being said, being out certainly isn’t helping Claypool, but when you keep dropping passes like MVS was today, it keeps the door open for other players. MVS absolutely still in the mix with a real shot at the roster, but he has probably had the most inconsistent camp of all the WR’s seriously competing to make the 53. So I personally don’t see him as a “lock”.

Beanes past in Carolina? He’s a first time GM in Buffalo, so what past are you talking about as he has no “past” as a GM.

The issue is that they find those receivers and beat up on weak teams then lose to teams over .500 despite the offense. And that is largely because teams like the Bills have given a blueprint to disrupt the offense which despite all that speed is not that hard to counter by just getting Tua off his early reads. No doubt they still can be dangerous, but I just can’t see how they don’t take a step back this year with a much more dangerous AFC and the losses they took on defense. And a small step back even would have had them miss the playoffs the last 2 seasons. But then again, that’s why they play the games, so who knows. But I personally don’t like how they are building that team, it’s not one that will lend itself well in the postseason against the powerhouse teams of the AFC. And IMHO I think the GM and staff will be fired if they miss the playoffs this year without major injuries being the reason.

By gutting their defense. If Rodgers stays healthy for the Jets, Miami won’t make the playoffs IMO. They barely made it in the last 2 seasons with what was a better roster than they will have this year. And the AFC overall is even tougher this year

Over Douglas? Rasul is our best corner

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I said there was no way to insure they don’t get him. And given how the draft fell, it is quite plausible, and even probable, they still get him either via a trade with one of the other 3 teams after us or him lasting to their pick. And we took draft capital away from them in the process too. But hey, this is apparently a sore subject for many who seem hell bent on making this into a thing. I’m not gonna waste any more time or energy on it personally, it’s all good. PS: IMHO Beane is not on thin ice nor has he had a rough year. Thats your personal take on him, but I doubt that’s it’s how he is seen by the majority and more importantly not how the team or his employers see him either.

No reason to be rude, and I disagree that It’s the way it works. There was zero the Bills could do to insure the Chiefs didn’t get Worthy. So to sit here and whine about it, post every highlight or low light in camp is just a silly premise. Especially when the guy we took has had by far the superior camp anyway. And the reason he made sense is because they didn’t need size with Rice and Kelce and he isn’t going to need to be a lead WR1 piece there with them and Brown. Reid and Mahomes get to use him as a complimentary piece and move him around creatively rather than a primary target who is gonna have problems getting jammed at the LOS. I didn’t say it should have been their pick, I said it makes sense in terms of how they can use him and because they have been trying to find someone like him since Hill left and just whiffed on Skyy and Toney trying to find it.

LMAO! Most people were wrong about Mahomes, but you want to bring that up to counter a point about how silly it is to fixate on Worthy because Bill clearly had other plans? But ohhhh you got me good lmao...I was one of the many people who didn't know Mahomes was gonna be one of the GOATS. But hey, I guess I suffer with that rare pesky problem of not being able to accurately predict the future 100% of the time...shame on me.

I’m just saying the Worthy thing is a total non-story given we weren’t taking him and KC likely still gets him if we don’t make the trade. Worthy to Chiefs makes sense, it never at any point made sense for the Bills. So unless people expect us take guys we don’t want that don’t fit just to block KC, then there is nothing to this story unless people want to force it. It’s all good, it’s just a silly premise IMHO to force the KC narrative about a player we didn’t want and that KC very likely still gets if we don’t make the trade.

Haha nicely played

Literally none of this has anything to do with Worthy and the Bills. We clearly didn’t want Worthy…and if we don’t take him, Chiefs almost certainly still get him. You are just holding on to a non story because you have KC PTSD. In other words, in your mind the correct move was the Bills to take a player they didn’t want and wasn’t a good fit just so KC doesn’t get him basically. Because UNLESS we did that there was NOTHING else to insure the Chiefs didn’t draft Worthy. So again, who cares. Coleman has had one of the best camps of any rookie of any position in the league. But hey, keep fixating on a player we passed on who made no sense for the needs of our team that has already been hurt in camp and has already been utterly destroyed at the LOS by his own teammate rather than guy we took who has already put up one of the best camps in the league and scoring rave reviews from on lookers, staff, media, and players.

Why though? It’s dumb, Worthy never at any point in any reality made any sense of any kind for the Buffalo Bills. There is no rational reason he should have been our pick. In KC, they had Hollywood Brown and Rice as well as Kelce. He gets to go there as a skinny twig who only needs to be a complimentary piece, not a WR1 where he faces a high chance to struggle as a WR1 as he is gonna get destroyed by press coverage. Bills needed both a WR1 and more size in our WR room. Only people who thought the Bills should take Worthy are the people who think the 40 times are the holy grail of WR evaluation…the same 40 time he manipulated to put up that time by cutting even more weight just to try and break a record at the underwear Olympics but is not the real speed he will play at in the NFL.

LMAO…21 pages about a KC Chief rookie…isn’t this supposed to be a Bills board? In all seriousness, who cares at this point about Worthy? What is even sillier is Keon has had by far the more impressive camp this far and it’s not even close. This is like “Wrong Josh” all over again where people just can’t let go Bills drafted someone different than they wanted.

Puts him starting early in real doubt, which is fine and expected anyway

Ok but the analogy was the least important part of my comment… point was it’s early.

Still early