Alphadawg7

"But the cap isn't real" lol

Here is what I don't like about this conversation: Bills were 4th in the NFL in sacks, only 6 behind the Ravens, in 2023 and that is with a lot of injuries. DaQuan loss was big, and we still finished 4th in sacks. Tre White loss has a big effect on sacks because it affects our coverage which impacts how long the QB holds the ball, still finished 4th in sacks. Milano is an all pro level LB we lost most the season, still finished 4th in sacks. Von Miller was useless this season, still finished 4th in sacks. Not to mention other players that missed time during the seaosn like Bernard. I think it is more than reasonable to think the team might have achieved 6+ more sacks had they not lost 4 critical players for most the season (pretty much all the season for Von) that impact our ability to get to the QB. So this is a team that could have led the league in sacks when healthy. So, overall this team compiled a lot of sacks and that was spread out amongst a bunch of people rather than being top heavy like some teams are. There are only so many sacks to go around and when you have guys all over the defense getting sacks, its not surprising one guys personal numbers fell off a bit. So I am less concerned about Groot seeing his sack numbers dip a little bit after we sign a pass rush specialist like Floyd and some other guys break out like Oliver, Bernard and another solid sack total from AJE too. So to answer your question...no, I am not concerned. Heard the same stuff about Oliver too and then he went out and put up 9.5 sacks this year on a team that had a lot of sacks.

Not sure what you thought was political about his response, but I didn't personally find it be a politically charged reply.

Gotcha. From that perspective sure I totally agree that it makes sense from a fair compensation stand point. Just don’t think it makes sense in the reality of what the Bills situation is.

Ok...but consider these factors: Who do you want McD coaching up, as in what are his strenghts? A CB or a bust WR? Obviously a CB. What position is in worse shape: CB or WR? I would easily argue CB is in worse shape heading into the offseason, really the whole secondary. Both starting corners coming off major injuries, and one of them (Tre) is a potential cap casualty and now has 2 major injuries in 3 years if he does stay. And one safety is gone and the other is not a lock to be back either. WR room still has Diggs and Shakir to build off of heading into a WR rich draft. What position is richer and deeper in this draft WR or CB? I think the consensus is WR. If we trade Elam in a season where we may start the year off without both starting corners from last year, not to mention missing at least one starting safety in our secondary, possibly two, then we will be looking at holes in at least 3 of our starting secondary positions as it is. Our secondary is in worse shape than our WR room today which makes Elam have more potential value for this team than Burks does right now. If we trade Elam, it needs to be for a draft pick we can use so we have more assets in the draft find another corner, not for a retreat WR when they have a better chance finding a better WR in the draft than they do in trading for Burks. Keep Elam, draft a WR early, take a 2nd WR sometime during the draft, and honestly you still need to address corner even with Elam in either FA/Draft along with probably 2 safeties. Or move Elam for a decent draft pick for more ammo to find DB in the draft...but Elam for Burks for me just doesn't make a lot of sense given the WR class we have this year. If it was a bad WR class, then I would be a little more for it.

Elam has more upside than Burks. Rarely ever do these retread WR's projects turn out to be good. Burks has been unimpressive on a team that was desperate for WR help, and even with Hopkins out there this year he still was underwhelming. Elam has 2 INT's in 3 playoff games. He was hurt this year and hard to get a real read on him. And I trust McD and this staff to develop our CB more than a WR who has been a disappointment. Plus, both of our starting CB's are coming off major injury and one of them (Tre) has question marks if he will be a cap casualty and may not even be on the roster. What people don't seem to realize, we are more desperate at CB than we are at WR right now where we still have Diggs and Shakir to build off of as we head into a WR rich draft. Much rather have McD coaching up a CB than a bust WR. Much rather draft WR's in a WR rich draft than have to find more CB's who may have to start as rookies. So hard pass for me.

But there is the issue...they are not equal advantages. That is the point people are making on college vs pros. The OT rule is improved now, but college system is still the single only true equal opportunity structure.

Yeah the Diggs stuff around here is utterly ridiculous...we need MORE guys like Diggs on this team, especially on Defense. And yeah, I do agree with you about Rice too, but I also do think Kelce criticism is warranted because he got physical with Reid and I also just think what he did with Reid is more true to his character as he is a giant deuche.

I couldn't tell you who would be better or worse between Kyle Allen and Trubisky. I am not enamored with either, but then again thats usually the case with backup QB's. I would probably lean towards who is cheaper as Bills are sunk if either had to play any extended period of the season. I haven't even began to look at FA's yet, so could be someone else this year too that might be a better choice. But if you are asking me between Kyle and Mitch...I would take the cheaper contract. And lets not forget Bears traded a bunch to move up one spot to take him even though everyone and their mom knew SF was taking Solomon and not a QB. Funny, SF could have then taken Mahomes/Watson next and still had all that draft ammo to add more pieces to that team. How many SB's would SF be sitting on right now had they just taken Mahomes instead of overrated home grown Solomon Thomas?

He did more than yell though, he almost knocked Reid over. What would you be saying if Diggs did this to McD during a game? This board and the media would implode and let's not pretend it wouldn't because neither this board nor the media has let go of when Diggs literally just raised his arms in a shrug on the sideline of the Bengals game. People would be calling for Diggs to be cut, traded, whatever...labeling him the worst teammate ever. Truth is, Kelce really is a giant deuche, I have met him in person and he is everything you think he will be. No joke, I think we will find out he has CTE later down the line, he has another side to him IMHO. Plus, he is 10 times the diva and deuche people think Diggs is, yet here on this board there are people still trying to falsely manufacture Diggs drama despite him flat out saying this offseason that he wants to retire a Bill, Josh if Family, he hopes to stay in Buffalo. It is crazy how certain players can escape scrutiny while others are not just over analyzed, but false narratives keep being pushed on them.

Im not sure you are even a "fan"...you sound like some dude who just caught his wife getting plowed by his brother. Your hasn't done **** since 2021 is inaccurate as well. Just about any fan who has even a sliver of football knowledge understood that players coming back from a torn ACL often don't get back closer to a full recovery until the season after they return. Which is exactly what happened with Tre who looked good before suffering another injury this year. He is definitely going to be an interesting one to watch as I really can't see how they can afford to keep him with our cap situation, so something is going to have to likely be reworked or he could very well be a cap casualty. But he deserves a lot more respect than you are giving him especially how he worked his way back and then suffered another significant injury that had him emotionally breaking down as he was carted off the field. So maybe tone it down or redirect your meltdown elsewhere rather than one of the most talented, professional, hard working, dedicated players this franchise has on this team who is beloved by fans and in the locker room.

Don’t care about the Pats anymore, but they were a 10/10 for me. I don’t hate the Chiefs, I only hate Kelce. I respect the greatness that is Mahomes, he’s the only other player that makes my jaw drop on a weekly basis outside of Allen. And with him and Allen being competitive yet friends is good vibes. Unlike when Pats and Brady had no respect for the Bills, nor should they have with how crappy we were. I do hate seeing them win though without actually hating the team. I am categorically sick of Swift and can’t wait until that’s done.

Cagey as in flat out stating he wants to retire a Bill, he hopes he isn't traded, and that Josh is family? And even the other statements were not cagey either if you listen to the whole interviews. But when people like @Einsteinstart threads like this with cherry picking a line or two out of context to paint a biased narrative then yeah it can sound cagey when it is not.

You see this is the issue. And not picking on you with this reply, but its more a general response to a lot of the nonsense in this thread. Some of you have decided Diggs is an issue no matter what. Even when Diggs says he WANTS to be here, does NOT WANT to be traded, and WANTS to retire a Bill there are people here that will say what you just said. So, Diggs has NEVER even one time said he was unhappy in Buffalo, not once. He had NEVER said he wants out, not even once. He has NEVER once said he has any issue with Josh. Yet so many people have come to these conclusions that he wants out, isn't happy here, has an issue with Josh by "decoding" or twisting things he has said to mean something different, or taken something they saw and decided it meant something like him wanting out. But now when he DOES say he WANTS to be here, Josh IS Family, he WANTS to retire a Bill then you are saying he doesn't really mean it and it still must mean its just an act and he wants out? Do you guys even get the ridiculousness of making things up he didn't say, then disregarding the FACTUAL and EXACT things he does say? Is a trade possible, sure...nothing is impossible. But the likeliness of that is pretty low given Diggs doesn't want to be traded, Beane restating his confidence in Diggs, our cap situation, and Diggs cap hits. Earlier in this thread people were moaning about why doesn't Diggs just say it clearly then...now he goes out and flat out says what they wanted to hear in that he wants to be here, does not want to be traded, and hopes to retire a Bill and the response is now "of course he is going to put on a good public face"

If Diggs "wants out", why is he doing interviews saying he hopes he stays in Buffalo, Josh is family, and he wants to retire a Buffalo Bill? Literally saying this in his most recent interviews. Ive yet to see anyone show how it will even be mathematically possible for the Bills to trade Diggs prior to the draft so we would be able to get draft picks in this draft to rebuild the WR room. The cap hits this year and next year would be crippling to a team who has half its roster essentially as FA's right now and already a bad cap situation. Nothing is impossible, but this "trade" stuff seems to be more media created click bait stuff than anything of actual substance.

Im not sold yet, but he showed more potential to be an RB1 this year than I think most of us expected. I like what I see for the most part, but CJ Spiller fooled me once in thinking he could be an RB1 too though, so I need to see more. But I have concerns about his tendency to drop sure TD passes, like right on the money easy catches for easy walk in TD's. I think he had 5 on the season, that is 5 TD's off the board. Then you have the fumbles too. On the other hand, he was really much more effective even running up the middle than I expected and he really started showing good vision, making people miss, breaking tackles, finding the gaps, etc. So, I am in a wait and see more stance. I would like to see the Bills bring back a vet (maybe Lenny comes back with a full camp) or draft a RB on day 3 who has some potential to share carries. We need someone who won't fumble when we need to grind out yards in close games, bad weather, etc.

Same...I was on Baker and talking about it all over this board that whole college football season. For a while I thought he was the most likely Bills pick until he climbed the ranks into top overall conversation and then went 1st. But heading into that draft night, it was clear Baker was going 1 and Darnold to the Jets. I was certain Giants and Broncos were not taking a QB. So my only 2 preferred choices were to trade up for Allen (my top choice), otherwise stay put and take Lamar. Allen was a riser for me, he really won me over with all he showed during the draft process and became my top target after Baker. Darnold was someone I saw a lot of and I had concerns about his decision making in the NFL as I watched him make a lot of "WTF was he thinking" throws at USC and was not as enamored with him at USC as others were. I would not have been against taking him, but I was just glad we didn't have to make that choice. Lamar was my actual 2nd choice behind Allen because I knew we could save some draft picks and not have to trade up for him and just stay put and take him. I even started a thread leading up to the draft titled "My case for Lamar" centered around staying put rather than trading up. Rosen I hated...I would have puked if we took him over Allen. I knew too many people who directly knew him and all said the same things about him, that he was a total deuche, nobody likes him, and he lacks all the intangibles and drive to be a QB in the NFL. To me, his peak ceiling was Jay Cutler and his floor was Ryan Leaf.

Draft needs and priorities should NOT dictate draft order though. For example, if at 28 there is a top prospect at a position we need such as S or DL or a reach at WR, take the better player. I want WR early in the first as much as anyone, but I do NOT want to REACH and pass up a superior prospect at another major position of need either. This is a deep WR draft too, and if you look around the NFL many of the best WR's in the NFL now and in the past 20 years did not come from the first round of drafts. Again, my preference would be a WR and I do think one worth taking will be there, however, if that is not the case then I don't want Beane to take a lesser prospect over a potential difference maker at another position we need to find starters in this draft for too.

Clearly, you are totally missing the point of what people are pushing back on in this thread. Its not whether or not its POSSIBLE Diggs COULD be traded. Its this LAMP post by @Einsteinwho cherry picked a couple lines to manufacture FALSE CONTROVERSY with Diggs. There is NO controversy or Diggs drama. Also, 6/1 would be 2024, you just said 2025...you can't even stay on the same year. But again, its not even about whether or not he can or can't be traded, its the nonsense of manufacturing false narratives and drama around him when there is none at this time. If you want or @Einsteinwants to start a thread about whether Diggs COULD be traded or not...fair game. To cherry pick a few lines to create FALSE DRAMA AND NARRATIVE is not only stupid but only brings the board down because many posters are gonna now think there is some drama that does NOT currently exist. They then persist to regurgitate this false info all off season in every other thread. And LMAO...Over 20 years Ive been on this board and the only L you can ever go back to is when I thought after like an 1800 yard season Spiller could be an RB1. I will take that track record 100 times over Daboll? Yes, VERY glad he is gone. I would take Daboll over Dorsey, but I am glad both are gone. How is he doing in NY? You know that team where reportedly the other coaches on his staff are looking for other jobs across the NFL to get off Daboll's sinking ship lol.

LMAO at this cop out...So NOW you are saying 2025 a whole other season from now when Diggs contract is actually movable. LMAO...ground breaking work. And EVERYONE and their MOM wanted us to actually RUN the ball more because we didn't have a run game and put too much on Josh. So don't hide your ridiculous post in your thread that McD wanted to run a "pound the rock" offense to the tune of "3 ypc" behind the obvious fact that we NEEDED to run the ball more than we did under either Daboll or Dorsey. 2 more L's for you here. Keep em coming though

This post might actually be worse than your last post. Is it sweaty with that tin foil hat on? Talk about trying to force a narrative, this actually wreaks of desperation.

This is such a ridiculous response. Diggs essentially said its not in his control, which is true for ALL players. He has made it clear all season many times he isn't unhappy in Buffalo and literally said he never once said he wasn't happy here. Just again forcing narratives where there are none just like your ridiculous take in your other thread suggesting McD wants a pound the rock offense, which is just as ridiculous as this thread.

We have an insane amount of FA's on the defensive side of the ball, we really need our draft capital this year. So I don't think any type of big trade up is something Beane is going to look at for any position. However, Beane isn't afraid to make smaller moves to go get the guy he covets. So its possible we make a small move up, but I just don't find any sort of expensive move up plausible, especially given the riches in this draft at WR. This is a very deep class and there are going to be WR's who come from all over this draft that turn into real players in the NFL. Id rather double up on WR in this draft than trade a bounty to get one.

@Einsteinis just looking for attention. He cherry picked a couple lines to make a fake controversy that isn't there and now he is trying to spin his reasons for it with answers dumber than this thread. Its threads like this that really bring down the quality of the board. Its one thing to start a thread and discuss the possibility of a trade and a totally other pile of garbage to manipulate a false narrative to stir the pot for attention. Literally the worst thread of 2024 because its going to falsely skew others opinions who didn't take the time to listen to the WHOLE interview and just took this hot garbage thread at face value.

I can't help but lose respect for posters who start threads and post snippets of an interview to skew the narrative rather than POST THE WHOLE INTERVIEW which actually CLEARLY illustrates a different tone and narrative than what this thread is forcibly trying to create. Honestly your thread just feels like a total LAMP thread forcing a narrative that isn't there. Gotta be the worst thread of the offseason so far that is now putting FALSE impressions in other posters heads who are going to carry this FALSE sense of IMAGINARY controversy all off season and derail other threads over and over again.