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Sadly, if we move up for any WR in the first there is very little chance...I would say almost no chance...we take another WR in the 2nd. We have some many other positions we need to address and we don't have a 3rd plus we will be without whatever other picks we included to move up in the first. If we stay at 28 and take Worthy, then maybe they would go WR in 2nd too (and I would be pounding the table hard for Polk if we were to take a WR in the 2nd), but still without a 3rd and badly needing to address a couple other areas, I just highly doubt we go WR - WR even without trading up in rounds one and 2.

I agree on Mitchell. And end of day, we all have our draft crushes this time of year, it’s what makes the draft so interesting. My 2 top targets outside the big 3 are Thomas and McConkey personally.

I agree with your overall point...but here is a counter point too: Every year there are guys who are big and run fast in shorts at the combine who get over drafted over the potential of what that means despite not having the college resume to support the draft slot. Legette has sky high potential, but he also has probably the most risk of the guys expected to go in first 2 rounds. I don't think he is ready to be a complete WR1 at the next level and has a lot to work on that could take a couple seasons before you know what you have in him long term. Which is why I like some other guys in the first over him. My stance is...I won't hate the pick if he is who we take in the first, his potential is still exciting...but I will be cautiously optimistic on year 1 expectations to say the least. I would feel more comfortable taking him in the 2nd though, again, he does have elite potential, it is just that he also proabably has the highest bust risk too.

Yeah, I am pretty skeptical he goes first round. Thomas is clear WR4 for me, and I think McConkey, Mitchell, Franklin, and Worthy are gonna likely go (in no particular order) before him. Then, again in on particular order, you still have Coleman, Pearsall, Wilson, Corley, Polk (who I am hearing is one of the drafts biggest risers leading up to Thursday), McMillan, etc who are all going to have a good shot at going round 2 as well along with Legette.

As the GM of the Dolphins in the TSW v3.0 Mock there is no F-ing way I am taking Worthy even though I am fully aware they might actually be that dumb on draft night. So I definitely agree he is a legit option at 21 on draft night because McDaniel is a buffoon who has no clue how to build a football team. Personally, I think McDaniel is fired after this year as I don't see them making playoffs. Teams like Bengals, Jets, Steelers, Browns, Chargers, Colts and some others all have a legit shot at being better this year and being or challenging to be a playoff team. Then you still got Chiefs, Bills, Houston, Ravens, Jags, etc. Miami barely made it last year and choked the division away with a stronger roster than they will have this year. So to use a first round pick on a guy who will be penciled in as your WR3 this year with Hill and Waddle there would be just stupid unless they are trading one of Hill or Waddle. They are so bad in the trenches, and its going to be their achilles heal this year. None of this is about Worthy who I think will go first round. Its about the Dolphins make up of their team and how taking Worthy for them is a Madden team building move, not an NFL team building move that will probably get this regime fired a year from now when they go down as the fastest team in history to not make the playoffs.

Nice pick, I think Murphy is coming off the board much earlier than people think and will be either the first or 2nd defender to come off the board. He is popular mock to Bengals at 18 or Seattle at 16 (I think there is no way he gets past Seattle though) but I think he might go as high as 8 to Falcons (assuming they don't have their first round stripped in next couple of days for tampering) or possibly 9 to Bears.

Oh yeah, my comment wasn't at all directed like at you personally, I get its because they are showing interest in him, others think he is possibility there. My post was 100% really about how stupid the Dolphins front office would be if they do it.

While its possible they do take him at 21...I would say that if the Dolphins draft Worthy at 21 they should immediately fire the GM before their next pick. Lets Recap: Dolphins have one of the best, and some would say arguably the best, WR duos in the NFL in Hill and Waddle. Dolphins are the fastest team in the NFL both at WR and RB and fastest offense overall. Elite speed at both positions. Despite all of this, in the last years the Dolphins have failed to win their division, even with a 4 game lead late in the season, have failed to win a playoff game, and have only won 2 games against teams with a .500 or better record in 2 seasons. So why is that? Despite all that speed, most in the NFL, the offense is easily defensible by simply disrupting Tua's early reads. There is no way adding Worthy makes any difference to this teams fortunes. They are not going to be able to get teams off the field on defense, and on offense, with Worthy as a 3rd WR he won't help Tua when his OL stinks and teams keep disrupting Tua and taking away all the speed advantage they have. Now add in: Dolphins OL is a mess Dolphins lost everyone who matters in their front 7 and DL is a bigger mess than OL Like I would literally absolutely fire the GM the moment Worthy's name was announced...not a knock on Worthy at all, its about Miami needs and team makeup where. Worthy is a god awful pick for them to use their first round pick on as he will be essentially a WR3 on their team that has massive holes in the trenches. There will be some really good OL guys on the board at 21. I PRAY this happens, I will laugh so hard and I promise you it would be the end of this coaching staff and front office by next offseason.

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IMHO this pick is almost as much of a lock as Caleb to Chicago if he is on the board (Chargers could snag him at 5 though if the smoke about Harbaugh wanting to focus on the trenches first has legs and they don't trade back). Titans probably already have the card filled out ha Nice, I think the pick is either Byron Murphy or Dallas Turner myself too. Personally, I have a feeling its gonna be Murphy, but if not then it will likely be Turner. Both would be good picks for them as they need to address the whole DL.

I just have this gut feeling Caleb is gonna not live up to the hype in Chicago. Something about him reminds me of Jeff George...incredible talent but I think his ego and mental aspects are going to be his own worst enemy. When I look for a QB to have elite potential, a big part of that is inspiring those around them to want to go to war with them. They elevate and motivate those around them, and I lack confidence in Caleb to excel in those areas. Kind of like Jamie Foxx in "Any Given Sunday" where he was a hard guy to like for a while and didn't have the support of everyone in the locker room. I like Maye's upside potential more than Caleb even though Maye does have a lower floor with more to work on to be a top end QB in the NFL. He has a Josh Allen type ceiling when you watch him play.

Rumors swirling that the Cardinals have been locked in on MHJ for weeks and gonna take him unless someone knocks their socks off...which I think is probably accurate if they stay at 4, but I think those rumors are a clear ploy to drive the price up and fuel the bidding war for this pick. If Giants want McCarthy not only do they have to contend with AZ possibly trading this but lots of belief the Chargers want to trade back too. That is not one, but 2 spots for Vikings, Broncos, or Raiders to potentially leap frog them for JJ McCarthy if they are as high on him as the buzz would suggest. And they supposedly will not make any decisions until on the clock, to again put pressure and drive last min bids. I think they still trade back, but obviously if they don't MHJ is the most likely pick.

Yeah and its why people have been mocking a lot that the Chargers will trade back out of this spot for someone who wants a WR where they can still grab an elite prospect along the OL and more draft assets and look to add to WR later. I get the pick for sure...but I think on Thursday if the draft fell this way the pick would be McCarthy or they would trade the pick to someone who wants McCarthy like the Vikes and take multiple first round picks.

Personally I think Odunze will be the 2nd WR taken. I’ve heard from people I trust that many teams have him as either the top overall WR or 2nd. And more isn’t being made about it as people want him to slide to them or to a place they can trade for him. He has the best ball skills in the draft and is the kind of guy who can be open even when not open. Basically a QBs best friend type receiver.

I don’t think it’s possible for me to hate any other unis more than I already hate these ones.

These are nowhere as bad the Giants new ones though

Bahahaha I’ve heard of eye candy, but this is the first time I’ve seen eye vomit 🤮

The issue is Commanders already have 6 picks in the first 3 rounds and 7 in first 150 picks coming into this draft. So they don’t need to make this move to load up on more picks in this draft. They can take a QB and still have 6 more picks in first 150. So I don’t know adding a few more and a couple next year is enough for them not to address the QB position with one of the QBs three hey are high on.

Agreed. This is what I meant by Wash would need more than this in real life because they won’t care about all these day 3 picks this year.

Yup, this was my vote and what I had in my last mock.

McConkey is an easy choice for me as Legette has a lot more risk to me than McConkey. Don’t get me wrong, he has a huge ceiling too and is an exciting prospect and I would be fine with him in the 2nd, but at 28 McConkey may be the most sure bet outside the big 3 in the draft to bring value and do it this year. Legette was a ghost all of college until his 5th year where almost all his career production came from. You don’t know which guy you’re getting and he isn’t as polished in a lot of the areas McConkey is. Legette does have elite potential still, I just think its gonna take a season or two for him to really put it all together (assuming he does), so I won’t hate drafting him at 28 if he was the pick, but I’d feel more confident in McConkey, especially in what he would do for us this year.

Obviously everyone free to operate how they want in this mock. But I’d say there’s pretty close to a 0% chance Commanders trade this pick on Thursday. They have locked down to take a QB.

Im with you. Like I said in another post, I think he’s a round 4 guy who’s gonna go round 2 or 3 because the class is weak, so I am with you on that. I would break my TV if he was taken at 28! But at 60 I could live with it even though there will be people there I would take over him I’m sure.

Whoever says he is a 3rd or 4th rounder doesn’t know how to analyze WRs. No way he gets out of the 2nd round, and more likely goes somewhere between back half of first and first half of second. There are a lot of teams who are high on him and he could be our pick at 28 even. I have him 5th behind big 3 and Thomas personally.

Welcome aboard I’ve long been on the McConkey train, he’s WR5 on my board. I would absolutely be good taking him at 28 or on a trade back. IMHO he has the highest floor outside the big 3 in the draft (followed by Polk in terms of high floor) and a safe bet to be a significant contributor year 1 IMHO. I have never seen someone spew assets away the way you do. This trade should and probably would get Beane fired.