Alphadawg7

Our issues are bigger than Keon Coleman being a starting WR here. And Coaching is definitely one of those issues. The coaching doesn't get to get off that easy. Keon wasn't even in uniform in the pathetic display of a game against Houston that had loads of issues in it.

We have a ton of evidence - you are just ignoring it. 2023 as you pointed out showed he is more than just a short dump off threat when he had more yards than Diggs on half the targets. So when he was OPPOSITE a legit WR1, he was used totally different and produced despite limited targets due to the target hog Diggs still was even in his short area use. Diggs, who was the WR1, saw his production fall off a cliff despite the high volume - and why - because Brady STOPPED throwing to Diggs down field and FORCED a short throw attack with Diggs, just like he NOW uses for Shakir as our TOP option. That is the Brady offense, and we have evidence of that with and without that top end WR1 option on the team. 2024 now without a legit WR1 on the team and Shakir now more the lead WR based on personnel and usage, he was relegated to lots of short area work, but was still on pace for over 1000 yards had he not lost 2 1/2 games to injury and us sitting people week 18 - and again that does not even factor the several games where the Bills took the foot off the pedal in several blow out wins last year. The evidence clearly shows he is capable of more than how he is currently used in the Bills offense. What your issue is with this is puzzling to begin with. Like why do you care so much about capping his ceiling. Especially for a guy who is special with the ball in his hands and has a high catch rate his whole career. Neither myself or anyone else is arguing he is a WR1, but you have long had this agenda to limit what he can be for some reason. No one is advocating him to be our top WR moving forward. If you don't think even just 200 more yards is possible with Andy Reid, Sean McVay, etc where he isn't being forced into one limited style and forced to be the lead WR then it doesn’t feel like you are very interested in being objective about it.

You didn’t even address the key point which is the fact he is in Brady’s offense. And when he was opposite Diggs under Brady he produced more yards than Diggs on half the targets. That’s shows 2 things, when he has a WR1 he can be used in more areas of the field than Bubble screens and that Brady doesn’t know how to make use of his WRs or a WR1 given Diggs production fell off a cliff despite his targets remaining high as he turned Diggs into a short throw WR. So no disrespect, you actually only further made my point IMHO. That in a different offense his ceiling is higher than it is here from a production standpoint. And you again mention his totals last year as a ceiling yet ignore he lost about 2 1/2 games of production, not to mention the many times last year we stopped passing in the 2nd half in blow out wins for whole quarters even some halves.

Our disagreement was really his ceiling as a player vs his ceiling as a Buffalo Bill under a Joe Brady offense. Whatever you think his ceiling is here with Brady, I think it is higher if he was on another team outside Brady’s offense. He was on a 1000 yard pace last year had he not missed 2 1/2 games (game he left early getting hurt, game he missed while hurt, and week 18 when we sat out top players) he would have been a 1000+ yard receiver. And that’s on an offense that under utilizes him and forces way too many throws to him at or near the LOS. If he was on a team playing next to a legit WR1 in a passing offense, like say the Rams next to Nacua, I think it’s quite plausible he could add another couple hundred yards to his production. Especially if he’s getting more than just bubble screens thrown to him half the time. Or put him on a team that knows how to maximize his talents like KC and he would feast. So where we disagree is that his production has peaked here overall based on his abilities. Where we do agree is that he shouldn’t be the top target WR1 on a team and his production ceiling here under Joe Brady is what we are seeing, especially with us missing a true WR1 and any downfield threat around him. But he’s better than what we get out of him here even though he’s been pretty damn good here.

Why is this still a thing? McD and Bills have adamantly shut this down - not that anyone needed them too, everyone and their mom knows they don't get along. Might as well speculate the tooth fairy is going to join the coaching staff too as they have about the same odds.

I’ve never said at any point Shakir was a WR1. Literally never made that claim. And I’ve never said he should be the focal point either.

Josh Allen wants to win a SB more than anything else in football. He is not going to force or demand a trade any time soon. I spoke with his mom at the ACC Golf Tournament for a while in July, and she said outside family and his wife, nothing matters more to him than the city of Buffalo. He truly feels he was put here, that his fate and path were shaped, for him to land in Buffalo. I can assure you, there is no thoughts in his head of leaving Buffalo. Maybe real late in his career things could change, but I would be stunned if he got to a place where he wanted to be traded until much later in his career if he still hasn't won one and the team isn't close.

Some good film breakdown here…

I get it, and I can’t say it never affects me into the night on those night games. But for the most part, since marrying my bad a** wife, having two incredible boys (2 1/2 and 13 months) and just realizing how blessed I am for that changed my whole perspective. I learned to detach from the game, and while I still bleed Bills colors, I just find it easier to just let it go relatively quickly and appreciate what matters more - family, love, health, and another day alive to enjoy it all. My opinions and passion for the Bills are still strong, I just don’t let them interfere with life and mental wellness.

It’s a game. It should not affect your life this much. I get high and low during games sure, but once it’s over I don’t let it linger and go on just fine enjoying my wife and kids. I mean my life doesn’t change if they win or lose a game. I want them to win as bad as anyone, but if they don’t, whatever. Even if we win a big game, the euphoria wears off quickly as it again doesn’t impact my life or what’s important in it. So my tip or advice is change your emotional attachment to the game and just decide it’s not going to impact your life, so whatever. For example - last night I was yelling plenty at the TV during the game. I was pissed and annoyed at the outcome. An hour later it was out of mind, was playing legos with my son and then laying in bed putting my other 1 year old in bed after as I watched season 3 of Tulsa King. Still enjoy the sports talk and stuff after, good or bad, but my life is great regardless win or lose.

I would not put a waiver claim in, he prob won’t play this year and may never live up to the contract. He clears waivers, then sign if he’s healthy

I still think we make the playoffs - will we win a game? Well thats a whole other question.

This. This is our worst issue right now IMHO. We have enough talent to be effective, but not when the OC is failing at his job as bad as Brady has been this year. Yes, everyone knows we could use a top end WR1 or deep threat, but that doesn't get to be the excuse for Brady when his play calling and adjustments are so bad. Our offense has gotten so predictable and the blue print to disrupt it has been there all year. When the league started to figure McVay out, he adjusted and countered. Brady is not doing a good job at this, nor is he doing a good job to keep the defenses guessing. It is so easy to tell what we are about to run or call most the game. Then there is his terrible adjustments, or lack there of: I was screaming all game to attack short, quick hitters. Quick drop and fire - screens, slants, short crossers, comebacks, curls, shots to the RBs out of the backfield, etc. But we were calling stuff constantly that take too long to develop against a pass rush owning our line rushing just 4. Allen constantly taking deep drops and looking downfield behind a line getting dominated and crushing our QB was one of the dumbest things I have seen him do yet, and she stuck with it until the very end before he finally did something different and attacked quick hits to move the ball the final drive. This team has issues on it overall - but Brady has gone from a hero (last year) to approaching a zero this year because he doesn't seem to have the answers to what opposing DC's are now doing to disrupt his offense. Side note: The WR group out there has been terrible this year on scramble drills too. I don't understand how this is so bad this year when its been such a big part of our offense for years.

To think a couple weeks ago there was a thread where about half this board actually preferred this team play 3 road playoff games instead of getting the bye and playing 2 home games just to avoid 2 teams we already beat in KC and Ravens. This is not a team we need to rely on to beat 4 teams to win a SB and have to do 3 of them on the road for just the shot to win the SB. Honestly, I think there is no team in the NFL that needs the 1 seed more than the Bills right now - and of course after going 3-4 in its last 7 has pretty much killed any hope to even get the 1 seed this year. Hell, now we are left wondering will they even make the playoffs.

I was so pissed at Dawkins last night that I would consider benching Dawkins against the Steelers to at least start the game or for the first quarter, hell even the game if need be, to send a message. It was inexcusable effort last night - for a guy who a week ago called out Keon for time for pats on the back is done and its time to grow up, this is unacceptable play from him.