Alphadawg7

This is pretty spot on, I agree with pretty much everything you said. Well done

Nah, they just went and got Sauce because he was an upgrade at CB that they needed on a roster competing for the 1 seed.

I think we can say Dallas really did themselves right with the Micah trade and came out on top here already. They traded a one dimensional pass rusher, who at Dallas's peak still wasn't winning with him when they had the #5 defense and #1 offense in the league. They avoided paying him a cap choking $48M (more than most QB's make) per year which would further deteriorate their already not good enough roster due to cap restrictions over time. What they turned Micah into was a multiple pro bowl DT - Kenny Clark, one of the best DT's in football in his prime Quinnen Williams, an extra 1st round pick, and the cap space to keep Pickens - not to mention more cap flexibility to make more moves. Micah Parsons vs 1st round pick, 2 Pro Bowl DT's, Pickens, and cap flexibility. I think its pretty hard to argue against the fact that Dallas did pretty well in the Micah trade. Does it mean Cowboys go on to win a SB, no, they are still the Cowboys and still have other issues. Only one team can win, and they are not that "one" team yet. But, its still a better place for them to be than with Micah and his contract. Meanwhile, Packers are not any better with Micah - and don't really look good enough to likely win their division let alone a Super Bowl. They lost/tied three bad teams in the last 5 games, created a hole at DT, have a $48M cap choking contract restricting their ability to build in FA, and also gave up 2 first round picks reducing their ability to build more talent through the draft. Its still Dallas, I am sure they still wont be going anywhere, but none the less they are in a better position from trading Micah than they would have been keeping him.

Agreed, and honestly I would prefer Gabe Davis to Shaheed who at least also brings elite blocking to a team who very much is designed to utilize that both in the quick passing game and the run game. Plus IMO Gabe is the more accomplished WR with a better deep game and rapport with Allen and cost us nothing to add to the roster. I dont love Gabe as a WR1 or WR2, but as a guy mixing in with this group, he still has a chance to bring value to the team if his knee stuff is behind him.

Also agree with all this too. I was a big fan of Brady the first season and a half, but I have been more critical of him this season as I think he has too often not made the right adjustments or just called bizarre plays in key situations. The offense has been better, but we still need to utilize the guys on the roster better. I loved what I saw against KC with finally using the TE's in a more attacking manner. But we still need to get more use out of the speed Samuel and Moore can bring, and I think the need to pick one and focus on getting them involved. Then they are completely using Keon wrong, he either Mack Hollins 2.0 blocking decoy or they are sending him too often on routes he isn't going to win enough on. Move him around, get him going using the crossers, slants, and comebacks he has shown he can win on. Enough back shoulder throws down the sideline while he is blanketed. Excellent post. This should be pinned in any thread talking about the lore of Shaheed. Its crazy how some people have inflated what he is and has been around here, and more importantly what they think he would be here.

This is exactly what I have been saying during all the "go trade for Shaheed" stuff this season. We have already seen this OC not use MVS or Harty last year in that stretch the defense role when they in fact filled similar roles to Shaheed in NO and that was what the point of them being here was supposed to be. This year we have Samuel (4.31 forty) and Moore (4.35 forty) not have their speed used much to open up down field again. I think one of the biggest changes Brady brought to the offense was his realization that the deep ball shots are not Allens strong suit. He wasn't wrong, but I also think he has a bit over corrected here too by taking it almost completely out. But none the less, I think a gadget type one dimensional WR was less on their radar as that one thing isn't really what Allen excels at, they wanted a legit WR1 who can be a threat deep but also be a playmaker all over the field. Despite some of the heat some are giving Beane, I don't really think there is much to criticize Beane on here as all the buzz was that he was active on trying to get one, but it takes 2 to tango. The only really big ticket that got traded that was at a position we really needed the help at was Quinnen, but many reports have come out that AFCE teams were told they were not interested on trading within the division. Which is a pretty easy thing to assume and believe too, especially Bills and NE who seem set still a long time to be tough with the QB situations locked down. The best thing that came out of this trade deadline was all the stuff coming out about Beane being actively calling on legit WR1 type options. Gives me hope that this offseason and draft it will be a top priority and hopefully we see them either land one in FA/Trade (no idea who is going to be available) or aggressive in getting one in the draft, including moving up to do so.

I don’t think anyone thinks Shavers is the answer. The point is BOTH Samuel and Moore are as fast or faster than Shaheed and we are NOT using them in that way. Neither was MVS or Harty last year, 2 guys that were doing what Shaheed was doing for the Saints before him we did not use in the same way here. So what WR trade happened that we missed out on? None of the WRs that actually gave us something we lacked happened. Olave, Wilson, Waddle, AJ, and BTJ all didn’t get traded.

I dont think he is faster than Shaheed, but I think Simons point with Shavers is that he has speed to be used as a downfield guy and we don't even try, just like we are not really trying with Samuel or Moore (who as faster or faster), just like we didn't really try with MVS or Harty last year (also 2 guys as fast or faster who were productive deep weapons while in NO just like Shaheed, but not here)

What did MVS do in Buffalo? Nothing, and few shots we took to a wide open MVS for what should be an easy score, Allen missed him by a mile (because he is not a good home run ball deep shot QB). So we cut MVS and he immediately goes to NO and does what Shaheed did for NO this year. What did Harty do in Buffalo last year? Nothing, yet in NO he was the Shaheed player for them before ending up here. Both of those guys were on the Bills last year too in this offense, and neither were used despite the same speed. Samuel is faster than Shaheed and Moore is at least as fast, might be faster with his 4.35 forty time (Samuel is 4.31). We have seen both use that speed deep on other teams before Bills. Neither is being used in Buffalo for deep speed. What do all 4 of those guys have in common? They are as fast or faster than Shaheed and have never been used much at all for their speed deep since being in Buffalo in the Brady designed offense. Shaheed was never going to be any different, never made any sense, and was redundant to what we already have and dont use.

Come on Simon - you have to know there is no way the Jets consider this offer right? I would be all for that trade as a Bills fan of course - but think about it bud, why would the Jets looking to add draft capital and shed contracts to do a full rebuild take back a big contract instead of a 1st round pick (they got a 1st and 2nd from Cowboys)? Especially for a player like Oliver, who has been inconsistent, hurt too much, and has several years left on his big contract. Jets want that first rounder, not a DT out for the season owed a lot of money for several more years.

Samuel runs a 4.31 forty, faster than his rumored to be 4.35 - 4.45 40 time. Elijah 4.35 forty time. Shakir 4.43 forty time. So Samuel and Elijah are either faster or as fast. So again we HAVE the speed on this roster already, and we DONT use it. And Shakir is also pretty fast too. I ask you again, what did MVS and Harty do in NO that they did NOT do here? Oh hit the deep home run shots - why because Allen cant throw them (missed MVS twice on 100% TD shots by a mile before we cut MVS) well and Brady doesn't utilize it in his offense (Diggs was on pace for 2nd best season of his career before Brady took over and changed the offense making Diggs average 8 yards per catch rest of the season). Shaheed might very well compliment the Seattle offense quite well...because they take deep shots. But that doesn't mean he would have done any of that here, especially when we have 2 guys as fast or faster and do not at all use them in that capacity what so ever - a year after also have speedsters MVS and Harty who we also did not use in that capacity, and the few times we did, Allen missed he wide open throws deep.

We actually have more speed than he brings in Samuel and Moore. We just don't use them. Shakir has the same speed Shaheed has by the way. Shaheed never made any sense to me for a trade. I mean MVS was useless here and then went to Saints and caught some big deep ball plays. Why? Because Allen is not a very good deep ball thrower and this offense isn't built to try and make that a more common play. Make no mistake about it - we have the horses on this roster right now, and we had Harty last year too - another deep ball hitter for Saints but not here for the same reasons MVS, Samuel, and Moore arent either. All 4 of those guys (MVS, Samuel, Moore, and Harty) are faster than Shaheed too.

Im not gonna lose any sleep over Shaheed - we already don't use similar guys in Samuel or Moore and what we really need is an outside WR1. Unfortunately the best options available are likely not being moved or not likely to be moved to us in Olave, Wilson, and Waddle.

I get what you are saying, but despite all that Allen is still the MVP front runner right now on all betting platforms, which he wasn’t last week. And what you are missing is while he didn’t have the “run” against KC on 4th down…he utterly dominated KC and what was the MVP front runner in Mahomes this week. And like the “run” last year, that dominance over Mahomes and KC this week also lifted him into the betting favorite after the KC win. And last year, Allen got destroyed by Lamar and the Ravens in week 4 - who was the favorite before Allen took over the top spot after his run and beating KC. This year, Allen made an epic comeback against what was the only time Ravens were healthy week 1 and now also dominated Mahomes. When we play NE again, we will win by 2 scores IMHO. And when we lost, we didn’t lose because NE was that good, we literally beat ourselves. At that point we will have control of the division again and likely the 1 seed too. Allen is actually in a better position to win MVP right now than he was last year IMHO - assuming of course we keep rolling, which I believe we will.

I think he can, and has plenty of times before.