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To be fair, it more often than not does implode. There are not many examples of it working and resulting in a Lombardi trophy, but lots of examples of if not working or even becoming a long term disaster. And it looked like it was headed for an implosion in LA too, but they were able to make some moves and hit on some picks that changed that course pretty fast. Bills are one of those teams that better be trying to go all in this offseason if we don't get there this year. This team has been too close, go get the difference makers, and get it done.

That was before ICE showed up

Worst part is that the Rams being this good and loaded with cap space and extra picks is being wasted on a city that barely shows up for their games though lol. But damn, they really set themselves up well for the future. Too bad its being wasted though on a city who doesn't appreciate it. Its early, but not sure this is the draft class to be hunting for a life after Stafford QB...if I am the Rams, I am probably looking to move one of those first for a future first rounder in a deeper QB class.

It helps when your day 3 WR pick becomes one of the 5 best WR's in football.

This is why its laughable when I see people on here who think we are, or could, trade 2 firsts for McVay. McVay is the golden boy there, he is LA football. He is what Carroll used to be when he was at USC, untouchable. Not only do the Rams love McVay, but all 307 of their fans in Los Angeles love him too. Plus, McVay is all about that LA life. It takes a tall glass of delusion to think we can trade for McVay.

Oh I see that now, I missed his comment about that. Yeah that’s insane comment

Nobody said it was. You’re the one who brought up Keon in a thread discussing the coaching issues.

Our issues are bigger than Keon Coleman being a starting WR here. And Coaching is definitely one of those issues. The coaching doesn't get to get off that easy. Keon wasn't even in uniform in the pathetic display of a game against Houston that had loads of issues in it.

We have a ton of evidence - you are just ignoring it. 2023 as you pointed out showed he is more than just a short dump off threat when he had more yards than Diggs on half the targets. So when he was OPPOSITE a legit WR1, he was used totally different and produced despite limited targets due to the target hog Diggs still was even in his short area use. Diggs, who was the WR1, saw his production fall off a cliff despite the high volume - and why - because Brady STOPPED throwing to Diggs down field and FORCED a short throw attack with Diggs, just like he NOW uses for Shakir as our TOP option. That is the Brady offense, and we have evidence of that with and without that top end WR1 option on the team. 2024 now without a legit WR1 on the team and Shakir now more the lead WR based on personnel and usage, he was relegated to lots of short area work, but was still on pace for over 1000 yards had he not lost 2 1/2 games to injury and us sitting people week 18 - and again that does not even factor the several games where the Bills took the foot off the pedal in several blow out wins last year. The evidence clearly shows he is capable of more than how he is currently used in the Bills offense. What your issue is with this is puzzling to begin with. Like why do you care so much about capping his ceiling. Especially for a guy who is special with the ball in his hands and has a high catch rate his whole career. Neither myself or anyone else is arguing he is a WR1, but you have long had this agenda to limit what he can be for some reason. No one is advocating him to be our top WR moving forward. If you don't think even just 200 more yards is possible with Andy Reid, Sean McVay, etc where he isn't being forced into one limited style and forced to be the lead WR then it doesn’t feel like you are very interested in being objective about it.

You didn’t even address the key point which is the fact he is in Brady’s offense. And when he was opposite Diggs under Brady he produced more yards than Diggs on half the targets. That’s shows 2 things, when he has a WR1 he can be used in more areas of the field than Bubble screens and that Brady doesn’t know how to make use of his WRs or a WR1 given Diggs production fell off a cliff despite his targets remaining high as he turned Diggs into a short throw WR. So no disrespect, you actually only further made my point IMHO. That in a different offense his ceiling is higher than it is here from a production standpoint. And you again mention his totals last year as a ceiling yet ignore he lost about 2 1/2 games of production, not to mention the many times last year we stopped passing in the 2nd half in blow out wins for whole quarters even some halves.

Our disagreement was really his ceiling as a player vs his ceiling as a Buffalo Bill under a Joe Brady offense. Whatever you think his ceiling is here with Brady, I think it is higher if he was on another team outside Brady’s offense. He was on a 1000 yard pace last year had he not missed 2 1/2 games (game he left early getting hurt, game he missed while hurt, and week 18 when we sat out top players) he would have been a 1000+ yard receiver. And that’s on an offense that under utilizes him and forces way too many throws to him at or near the LOS. If he was on a team playing next to a legit WR1 in a passing offense, like say the Rams next to Nacua, I think it’s quite plausible he could add another couple hundred yards to his production. Especially if he’s getting more than just bubble screens thrown to him half the time. Or put him on a team that knows how to maximize his talents like KC and he would feast. So where we disagree is that his production has peaked here overall based on his abilities. Where we do agree is that he shouldn’t be the top target WR1 on a team and his production ceiling here under Joe Brady is what we are seeing, especially with us missing a true WR1 and any downfield threat around him. But he’s better than what we get out of him here even though he’s been pretty damn good here.

Why is this still a thing? McD and Bills have adamantly shut this down - not that anyone needed them too, everyone and their mom knows they don't get along. Might as well speculate the tooth fairy is going to join the coaching staff too as they have about the same odds.

I’ve never said at any point Shakir was a WR1. Literally never made that claim. And I’ve never said he should be the focal point either.

Josh Allen wants to win a SB more than anything else in football. He is not going to force or demand a trade any time soon. I spoke with his mom at the ACC Golf Tournament for a while in July, and she said outside family and his wife, nothing matters more to him than the city of Buffalo. He truly feels he was put here, that his fate and path were shaped, for him to land in Buffalo. I can assure you, there is no thoughts in his head of leaving Buffalo. Maybe real late in his career things could change, but I would be stunned if he got to a place where he wanted to be traded until much later in his career if he still hasn't won one and the team isn't close.

Some good film breakdown here…