Mark80

GTF outta here. We are 8-6 with a chance to make the playoffs in Marrones second season.

The all get counted. This is what is says in "The Other Tie-Breaking Procedures" "In comparing records against common opponents among tied teams, the best won-lost-tied percentage is the deciding factor, since teams may have played an unequal number of games." The unequal number of games is the effect of the division opponents.

I don't think so. Of all the AFC North teams we need 1 to lose 2 games to have a legit shot. Cincy is our best bet at losing both games considering who they play in my opinion. And there is no way that the Pats lay down for us week 17 regardless of their situation. Posted the part for you in my post above your last one as an edit.

You're not following though. It would only eliminate PIT or BAL for the #5 seed determination. Once that is figured out (say steelers) they re-set and do the whole thing over again...so Baltimore comes back into play for the #6 determination. Thus, we lose out. Look at "Other Tie Breaking Procedures" "Only one club advances to the playoffs in any tie-breaking step. Remaining tied clubs revert to the first step of the applicable division or Wild Card tie-breakers. As an example, if two clubs remain tied in any tie-breaker step after all other clubs have been eliminated, the procedure reverts to Step 1 of the two-club format to determine the winner. When one club wins the tiebreaker, all other clubs revert to Step 1 of the applicable two-club or three-club format."

Yep, we are screwed, they do them individually. Look at the bottom of the multi-team wild card scenario: "When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth." Since Cincy or Pitt would be in at #5 they would no longer eliminate Baltimore in the "in division" tie breaker and it would just be us and Baltimore left for the #6 tie-breaker and we would lose on common opponent win %.

See post right above yours!!! I agree with you if they do the tie-breakers as a group. But if they do tie-breakers for #5 seed first (Cincy may just get it alone or PItt may get with tie-breaker scenario) and then do a separate tie breaker for #6 after #5 has been determined already, we would lose out to Baltimore still 1-1. If they just do the tie breakers together in a group 5 and 6 together, then yes, we would get #6. I just don't think that is how it's done and I can't figure it out for sure in the rules.

Yeah, but we won't get to SOS vs the ravens as they will have us beat in common games.

That's the only part of tie-breakers that confuses me. You may be correct here, which would be great! I just get confused when it's 3 teams tied for 2 slots. Is it the same procedures as 3 teams for 1 slot? Or do they do them on an individual basis....i.e. figure out who gets the #5 seed first and then figure out who gets the #6 seed. If it is two separate instances (as opposed to doing one instance, that is, 3 teams for 2 slots) then we are still screwed and out. I always thought they did them on an individual basis...So for 5 seed we would lose to Cincy in the three way tie. Then for 6 seed it would only be us and Ravens left in this scenario now and we would lose to them in a 1-1 tie breaker.

Well, it is incorrect then.

If the Bengals, Ravens, and Steelers all win next week we are out. I'm not sure why you guys think we have the tie-breaker on Ravens. We do not. If they finish 10-6 they will have us on tie-breaker #3, best win% vs common opponents. They will be 3-2 while we are 2-3 vs Mia, Cle, Hou, and SD.

No it would not. We lose all tie-breakers to AFC North. The Bengals, Steelers, and Ravens would still be ahead of us.

Yeah, taking out the possibility of ties in week 17, that would mean we need Baltimore to lose out vs Houston and Cleveland. That ain't happening.

Here is an easy breakdown: We need either Cincy, Baltimore, or Pittsburgh to lose both games. We also need KC and SD to lose one of their games. As far as tie breakers go, I believe we lose all tie-breakers at 10-6 with every team remaining in it. Baltimore would have us on common opponent games. They are currently 2-1 vs Mia, Cle, and SD with Hou and Cle remaining. We are 2-3 in games vs those opponents with none left. If Baltimore falls to 2-3 vs those opponents they will have already fell to 9-7 overall and the tie-breaker would be moot. It is also possible to get in if two AFC North teams lose both their games and either SD or KC lose at least one game. However, it would have to be Baltimore losing to Hou and Cle and Cincy or PItt losing both games (as they play each other week 17 they both can't lose both games). I find it unlikely that Baltimore will lose both and I think that our best bet is actually Cincy losing vs Denver and at Pittsburgh. Man the Texans and Chiefs games are killing us.

I love them. This is my favorite combination. They just look mean. It's my go to uniform for big home games in Madden and it looks great.

Kaepernick just signed a 6 year $126M contract with $61M guaranteed. He is impossible to trade at this point.

Not so fast. The Kansas City Royals and their Cinderella story yielded lower ratings than last year. In fact, if you take a look at most Championship matchup ratings you'll see a pretty big spike when the Powerhouse teams and markets are involved and lower ratings for Cinderalla's pretty much across the board. That's why NFL does not, in fact, love the Bills or any small market team.

I think you'd be surprised to see how many sacks other Bills players are getting because teams are double covering Hughes quite often as well. It goes both ways. He's a tremendous pass rusher.

Most impressive to me is that he has recorded a sack (.5 in one) in every game this season except 2, first NYJ game and SD game. In the first NYJ it obviously didn't matter. Consistency has been impressive.

Detroit has reached epidemic levels. Quite different than any other city in the nation including Buffalo and Cleveland. They are simply on a completely different level.

It would be great to look at the old Geno Smith thread before the draft when many posters were almost 100% certain that he'd be the #1 overall pick and certainly, if not #1 overall, a first round quality talent. They pointed to his amazing WVU stats which were, admittadely, very impressive. However, they failed to take into account his complete lack of competition in the Big East at the time and the huge focus on getting the ball in to players like Austin's hands through screens and shuffle passes. When I pointed this out at the time and said that I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't go in the first round, I was called an idiot. All you needed to do was watch a single game against a quality opponent to see this coming a mile away. EJ has thrown 16 TDs to 12 INTs and has a record of 6-8 as a starter and would most likely be 7-7 had he finished the Browns game last year. That's completely different than 19:31 ratio and 9-15 record. Anyone who can't see that is completely blinded by their hatred of EJ.

This is completely and utterly false. While it doesn't guarantee the first overall pick, it certainly does give you the highest percentage chance at the first overall pick. That is, unless the NHL doesn't even know your little secret. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=728795

Morrone needs to blow up in a Press Conference regarding the bad calls every single week over and over. He needs to get mad, he needs to call out the B.S., he needs to pay the fine and stick up for his team. The biggest man I've ever seen with no sack.

Tannehill never had such glaring accuracy issues as EJ. That's a huge difference and is something that is very difficult to develop.

The Bills should also take lessons in throwing and defending drag / crossing routes. They threw them over and over against us with a ton of space to get YAC and we simply could not adjust. However, whenever we attempted to throw them our receivers / TE we were tackled almost instantaneously or the ball was knocked out. Orton (and EJ) just can't seem to see the defenders in that zone ready to blow up that play as soon as it's thrown and our defensive scheme allows them to be completed successfully over and over and over again. And our D Line hardly ever even attempts to throw their arms up and bat balls down and those are the prime target types of passes to do so. It gets so tiresome.

I'm not one to usually correct people's spelling mistakes. But when you ask people not to correct your "grammer" you are kind of asking for it. It's grammar.