Mark80

Detroit has reached epidemic levels. Quite different than any other city in the nation including Buffalo and Cleveland. They are simply on a completely different level.

It would be great to look at the old Geno Smith thread before the draft when many posters were almost 100% certain that he'd be the #1 overall pick and certainly, if not #1 overall, a first round quality talent. They pointed to his amazing WVU stats which were, admittadely, very impressive. However, they failed to take into account his complete lack of competition in the Big East at the time and the huge focus on getting the ball in to players like Austin's hands through screens and shuffle passes. When I pointed this out at the time and said that I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't go in the first round, I was called an idiot. All you needed to do was watch a single game against a quality opponent to see this coming a mile away. EJ has thrown 16 TDs to 12 INTs and has a record of 6-8 as a starter and would most likely be 7-7 had he finished the Browns game last year. That's completely different than 19:31 ratio and 9-15 record. Anyone who can't see that is completely blinded by their hatred of EJ.

This is completely and utterly false. While it doesn't guarantee the first overall pick, it certainly does give you the highest percentage chance at the first overall pick. That is, unless the NHL doesn't even know your little secret. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=728795

Morrone needs to blow up in a Press Conference regarding the bad calls every single week over and over. He needs to get mad, he needs to call out the B.S., he needs to pay the fine and stick up for his team. The biggest man I've ever seen with no sack.

Tannehill never had such glaring accuracy issues as EJ. That's a huge difference and is something that is very difficult to develop.

The Bills should also take lessons in throwing and defending drag / crossing routes. They threw them over and over against us with a ton of space to get YAC and we simply could not adjust. However, whenever we attempted to throw them our receivers / TE we were tackled almost instantaneously or the ball was knocked out. Orton (and EJ) just can't seem to see the defenders in that zone ready to blow up that play as soon as it's thrown and our defensive scheme allows them to be completed successfully over and over and over again. And our D Line hardly ever even attempts to throw their arms up and bat balls down and those are the prime target types of passes to do so. It gets so tiresome.

I'm not one to usually correct people's spelling mistakes. But when you ask people not to correct your "grammer" you are kind of asking for it. It's grammar.

I think he has out performed all of the bolded players significantly. Benjamin ran a 4.61 40 time. He said he did it on purpose so the Panthers would draft him. I think he's faster than that, but still not as fast as Sammy is. Also, Sammy has / had better route running and hands coming out of college. I'm sure they saw potential in Benjamin, but they saw certainty in Sammy. Certainty is worth the #4 pick. Potential is not.

I don't get why people assume that we are going to get him. At best, we have a 20% chance if we finish with the worst record in the league. Add to that whatever % chance the Islanders and Blues pick is (heck, they both may make the playoffs giving us 0% additional chance) and it is still a sub 40% chance to get him. We should be getting more excited about how good Eichel is looking. We finish worst, and don't get the #1, he is an awesome consolation prize and one of the best "second best" prospects in a draft in a long time.

Probably the most misused word in the english language.

You need to add Robert Woods as well. After trading down, EJ pick really became EJ and Woods.

Yeah, so the Bills could just walk down to the ball and pick it up and take possession? Also, the OP is talking about the first squib kick. Not the one at the end of the game.

He definitely did. I would imagine taking hits as a QB is less forceful than what a RB has to endure for the most part. The recovery takes a few months to completely heal. Rodgers came back basically when he had enough stability, not when he had a fully recovered bone. I think the RB needs the fully recovered bone to prevent re-break. I'm just guessing here though. On top of that, I don't think Rodgers required surgery for his either, so it is probably more severe in the first place.

A win is a freaking win, I'll take it happily.

This is actually an amazing breakthrough. It yields much more energy, little to no radioactive waste, no chance of a meltdown. This is an answer to cheap, safe, clean energy and should not be taken lightly by anyone.

Golson will DEFINITELY be 2nd round available. Heck, he'll most likely be 4th round available. He is looking much improved and with his best receiver suspended for the season too!

I agree with what you said for the most part, but it seems like you are holding out for the next Andrew Luck or something. The thing about that is every QB is going to have some flaws except for one guy every 10 years. You have to take chances on guys and hope you hit on them, hope they can become franchise QBs. It's just a risk / reward type process. Which guys is worth which pick? Obviously a guy like Cook doesn't have as many flaws as someone like Hundley, so he's worth the risk of a first (as of now in my opinion) while Hundley may be worth the risk of the 3rd, but you just don't know if any of these guys are going to "make it" but you can't sit around and wait for the sure thing guys that are once in a generation type prospects (Elway, Manning, Luck).

I like Cook a lot. I think he'll be a good one as well. But, as others have pointed out, he's going in the top 1/2 of the first round and we don't have the luxury of any first round pick. So, we would have to give up a lot to get up there and to me, it just isn't worth it. None of these guys are Andrew Luck type prospects and I believe that is the only type of QB prospect you trade up for in the top 1/2 of the first round, the sure thing guys. As I said in another thread, I am really starting to like Dak Prescott in the 2nd round. He is maturing before our eyes this season a la Cam Newton in his final season. I also believe Mariota will go high, but I'm just not a fan of his for some reason. I really believe he is a product of that system and will have a very difficult time with NFL defenses. Just look at his game logs. He dominates sub-par opponents, but when the tough teams are on the schedule he becomes very pedestrian. I also am really starting to sour on Hundley and I believe he has played himself out of the first round at this point. It was a mistake on his part to come back this season. I haven't been able to catch any Oregon State games yet so I can't give a legit opinion on Mannion at this point, but I'm going to go out of my way to check out one of their games soon. To me, there are two questions that remain unanswered. First, what about Jameis? I mean, the dude can flat out ball and has everything you want on the field in a franchise QB. But, how much do you let the off the field stuff turn you off? If he falls to us in the second, are we all over him? Is he worth the risk? I think he may be, but I freaking hate the guy. Second, at what point do we start respecting Everett Golson? He plays tough opponents, he wins games, he has shown a big time improvement in his passing skills compared to 2012. Yes, he's only 6'0", but man, I can't help but see some Russell Wilson in this guy and would love to see a 4th or 5th rounder thrown at him. In summary, my QB desire list: 1. Connor Cook 2. Dak Preskott 3. Jameis Winston 4. Mariota (so low because I don't feel he's worth where he will be picked) 5. Kevin Hogan 6. Brett Hundley 7. Everett Golson Unknowns as of now: Mannion, Petty, Grayson. That's really not saying much! They are terrible.

See the post I just put up in the other 2015 QB thread for further explanation on that one. Also, every year is a weak QB project class. People say the same thing every year unless John Elway, Peyton Manning, or Andrew Luck are in the draft. It's a bit cliched, wouldn't you say?

Extremely inconsistent. There will be far better QBs available. I don't like this guy at all and don't see any real future in the NFL besides possibly holding a clipboard and giving a real QB some signals from the sidelines.

This. Unfortunately got to give this one to Jerry. He came to the realization of what really won for them in the 90s, dominate OLine play. The Cowboys OLine was old and he cut ties with the group a few seasons ago. He then hit big time with Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick, and Zach Martin with 1st round picks in 2011, 2013, and 2014 respectively. Add in the veteran leadership of Doug Free and the emergence of an undrafted Free Agent in Ronald Leary and there you go. You put a guy like DeMarco behind that group with the competence of Romo and the star power at WR in Dez and you have a winning team.

JJ Watt was sitting out on numerous plays at the end of the Colts game. Granted, he couldn't even stand on the sideline and was visibly exhausted on one knee after being a one man wrecking crew the entire game, but he was out for some plays in the 4th when the Texans desperately needed to get the ball back.

Any poster who brings up Bill Cowher obviously has no clue what they are talking about. The guy is never coaching again. Period. He's had numerous chances to come back and has said that he is extremely happy with his current, stress free gig. He loves spending the time with his family (being there for his children after his wife's passing especially) and has nothing left to prove in the coaching ranks. For the love of god, just move on people. He didn't fail at Michigan, they just fired him too soon because their alumni are idiots. Hoke had a fantastic first year with all of Rodriguez's recruits, now they suck.

Cam is the reason that Dak Prescott will be a top draft pick IMO. He's following his college path pretty darn closely. At first they were both used sparingly in the passing game. They were running teams with running QBs. However, as their careers progressed they both developed as passing QBs while maintaining their abilities to make plays with their feet. Cam wasn't considered a good arm QB until about 1/2 through his last season. Dak is showing his development before our eyes right now. They are also both very big guys which should allow them to take hits on those runs in the middle of the field. Dak is being projected in rounds 3-5 right now. If he is still there when we pick in round 2 I would love to snag him. I suspect he'll be a first rounder when all is said and done though (if he even comes out this year). With Jameis' issues and with Hundley not really looking that great this year his stock is only rising more.

You mean the ball that hit him in the head and if he would have just turned around would have been right to him? Unreal. He is terrible, but without Aaron Williams in the game he was all we had, unfortunately. It was a performance that was getting close to as bad as Justin Rogers against the Jets last year. I'm sure this is mentioned in the Aaron Williams being out hurting us thread.