Mark80

Cardale had 3 very impressive throws yesterday. The quick post on the first drive vs Fuller (one of the best college DBs), the TD pass to Miller, and the dump off pass late in the game 30 yards down the field. All of them were exceptional plays. However, his first TD pass was not impressive at all, he just threw it up and the DB made a terrible play on a ball that could have easily been picked. The CB looked like Darby in the Steelers pre-season game on that throw. He under threw another WR later that had got about 3 or 4 yards separation on the deep ball, the CB was able to catch up and run over the WR for a PI call and his other throws were just OK. I'm sorry, but 9/18 is not an impressive performance at all, no matter how you slice it. And pointing to his running stats? He's not going to be a running QB in the NFL. He's not NFL fast and he won't be able to try and run through guys like he does here. These stats shouldn't even be considered when looking at him as an NFL prospect. He has tremendous arm strength and a great, quick release, but he has questionable decision making at times, his accuracy is over stated at times, and he still has a ways to go IMO. On a side note, I was extremely impressed by Miller's abilities as a HB/WR or whatever he is. His first catch just off the turf was very nice and that spin move later on was video game stuff.

How did "just his measurables" work out for Jamarcus Russell? As I said early in this thread, Jones did NOT win the National Title game or even the semi-final game, Ezekiel Elliot and the running game won both of those games. In fact, Jones actually didn't look good at all vs Alabama and only looked OK vs Oregon. And, if you watched those three games, you'll see that his WRs made some pretty amazing catches on balls that the he just threw up there into coverage. At this point, people are just staying he's great because it's the thing to say right now. He needs to show a lot more for him to be a 1st round pick (or a 1st overall as someone just stated again) and he's not even going to start for his team it looks like.

Isn't CB one of the harder positions to adjust to in the NFL? I say we give him at least one week in the regular season, no?

The absolute obsession with 34 year old running back coming off a season in which he averaged 3.7 yards per carry and a career in which he's had only one 1,000 yard season is quite amazing to me. He led our team to exactly zero playoff appearances in his tenure. Sure, he is popular on the team and in the community, but the fact is we have more effective players on the roster now, plain and simple. The man stuck with the Bills, ok, but let's not forget the Bills paid him millions upon millions of dollars to do so.

Where are all those people that wanted the Bills to draft that clown? After going undrafted and a brief stint with KC on a try-out basis, he remains unemployed without ever signing a contract.

I buy MLB.tv premium just so I can listen to him on my phone when I am going to bed. He is an absolute treasure.

This really deserves it's own pinned thread? SMH.

He must be Italian.

And he got smoked on a tackle attempt as well. Not a good night. The PI in the end zone looked like a pretty darn good play though.

He's the only guy on our team that makes that throw, or the TD throw to Palmer. Matt Cassel offers nothing over EJ, nothing. It's Tyrod or EJ, not a doubt in my mind and fine either way. This team is legit folks. Time to get excited.

I literally just removed ESPN.com from my favorites bar today. That after stopping watching non-live sports on their tv stations a few months ago. Although this story had nothing to do with why I did that today, it perfectly exemplifies exactly why I did.

Eli Manning may be the most disrespected QB in the history of the league.

Aren't there two other sports radio stations here now?

I think you are reading way too much into it. Just look at Lynch's interviews, or Gilmore's, some people just aren't charismatic in interviews, he's probably just one of them.

While this is not great news, just be happy that it's a depth guy and we emerged pretty injury free from that one for our starters...and they were out there for a long time on D for the first PS game.

I agree with all of your other points but not on these. I thought Darby looked just fine. The throws he got beat on were all perfectly thrown balls that ANY CB would have a very hard time breaking up. The two on the sideline were perfectly placed in stride in the WRs arms towards the sideline where they were able to use their body as a sort of shield. Darby was right there on both of them, had his arm in there, and just got beat by tremendous throws and catches. On the TD it was a perfectly thrown back shoulder and high ball to a tall WR. It was perfectly placed and perfectly time. Virtually unstoppable if you don't maul the WR. He really only got beat on 1 play and that was the back shoulder play down the sideline. He ran right past it. But again, that was well timed and perfectly thrown, but he wasn't close on that one. The rest of his targets he was right there, broke up numerous plays, and looked legit for a 1st pre-season game to me. EJ was 9-10 if you take out the three drops. Even though their replays were crap in the game, I went back in slow mo and watched them all again, they were all flat out drops for NFL WRs and TEs. He saved a huge loss on a bad snap by at least stopping it and the other snap was 100% on Urbik too. He made by far the prettiest throw of the day on the TD, was throwing lasers to the sidelines, and was going through progressions quickly. His throws were right on target, right on time on every throw except the roll out one and on this play he still came out ahead by avoiding that sack. He team just didn't help him out, hopefully those are plays our first and second team make. EJ deserves a shot with 1st teamers with that performance and I would still take him all day over Cassell. Mulligan..ugh...all is see is the new Lee Smith. He looked slow, goofy, and he even was trying to get a unsportsmanlike penalty after one of the plays getting into it with a guy near the pile when the play was clearly over. No Thank You.

Seemed to me the only reason Kevin Johnson did that was because the day before, when they were not in full pads, that RB lowered his shoulder on him. So the next day when they were in full pads Johnson just did what we was supposed to do, get even lower than the guy. You can easily see that the RB was lowering that shoulder again on him, just like he did the day before. It was a great tackle IMO.

I think it's going to be hard for them to find "A List" actors for season 3 after the reception of this season. Maybe that's a good thing though, lower expectations a bit and find people that fit their roles better regardless of how well known they are.

They are doing a story on Rex on the next Real Sports episode. Airs August 18th, 9pm HBO.

Is easy to see why JJ Watt is the best player in the league. Only guy on the field doing drills when it was dusk until full blown night time. THEN he goes and signs autographs for over an hour. He said he would earn that contract. That's a man living up to his word so far.

I hear what you are saying. I dabbled in playing a little QB back in the day and am by no means great or even very good. I've got a decent arm, that's it. But when I'm throwing the ball around with my friends I can pretty much hit all of them in stride within 20 or 25 yards down the field. After that it starts to get tougher for me. You would think ANY pro would be able to do it without pressure at least 40 to 45 yards down the field. Part of the problem may be the increased difficulty there is on breaks and timing routes, but a deep ball, a post route, a slant/drag, a flats throw or screen pass...that's easy stuff I would think.

The U is my favorite team so I try to watch all their games. Kaaya has a loooooonnnnnnnngggggg way to go still, in my opinion. I certainly didn't leave last season feeling impressed by him, but I can understand why people are excited about the future for him. He needs a lot of development, but if he continues to get better this year and next year he will be the front runner for #1 overall in 2017 IMO. I just hope he can help make the U relevant on a national stage again first though. He was surrounded by a ton of offensive weapons last year that left, going to really be able to show what he's made of when he doesn't have Duke, Clive, and Dorsett around him. It should be noted that he was a true freshmen last year so it is very understandable that he was inconsistent and had questionable decision making skills at times.

Actually, I hardly ever see him mentioned at all, let alone someone saying they think he's going to be very good. Usually when he's brought up there are two responses: First, I hate USC QBs. Second, He doesn't have the arm strength. I have not seen a single person, besides myself, say they think he is going to be a very good NFL QB. Maybe Yolo did at some point. Feel free to show me otherwise, I certainly could have missed them. I've been on his train since January 3rd on this site officially. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/174942-tank-part-2/ You're not going to find anyone saying anything good about him before that, believe, me, I just looked. Although I don't think he is going to be the first QB taken anymore, I still do think he is the best value and the best one we will have a shot at drafting. I've seen some people say that Jones is going the be the first overall pick in various places. It's not just in this board, it's from pundits, friends, articles, etc. I disagree at this point and clearly said it my first post "not yet at least." And if you go back to the start of this thread, it all started with a mock draft having him go to the Bills at 19 with many people saying he wouldn't last that long.