Mark80

TB is a gimme win? No way.

I like what we did, don't get me wrong. But to assume we are going to be able to get the best QB in the draft next year is crazy. IF someone like Darnold has a great year and is the consensus #1 overall pick next year and, say, the Browns have the #1 overall pick, I don't think they would trade out for anything. Not to mention if we end up 7-9 or 8-8 and the Chiefs make the playoffs again. We aren't moving up to #1 with a #15-20 pick and a #20-30 pick. It would take a more than that I think, especially if it turns Darnold or Rosen or Mayfield or whoever, get even better this season.

So, White has the same contract as Gilmore? Oh, sorry, nevermind, it is over $10M cheaper. That equates to two additional starters we can afford with that extra money. It's really White + 3rd round 2017 + 1st round 2018 + two additional starters or very good depth guys for Gilmore and Mahomes. I take that deal any day of the week.

I disagree. Teams are desperate for QBs. Someone will give him decent money to take a chance on him. Look how much cap space the Browns have this year. You don't think they would be willing to risk 5-10M of that on a front loaded 2 year deal for him or 1 year with option?

That would be the dumbest thing he could possibly do in my opinion. He should get as much money as he can with this contract. This could very well be his last. He needs to think about his non-football future which may not be that far off. Yes.

So, the only reason a DC got a HC job was because of a QB his team drafted? Is that what you are trying to say? Um...OK...sure.

Good work NP! Definitely agree in the order of your QB picks. I got Davis over Kizer as well. Kizer hasn't done anything to impress me as a QB. I still want Watson at #10 or a trade down to 15-20 for him would be my dream scenario picking up an additional 2.

So have a lot of crap QBs.

Based on his college performance, pre-season performance, and week 17 performance. He has horrendous accuracy. Watch his so-called "great" games at OSU. WRs making tremendous plays on underthrown balls all over the place. He never hits anyone in stride. He underthrows guys open by 5 yards so much that the WR has to make a great catch over the DB who was able to catch up to them. The only reason they had any success was because teams were stacking the box vs Elliot and WRs made tremendous plays. There is a reason he lost his starting job.

Uh, because Cardale Jones is a terrible QB with no chance of NFL success.

This guy is the definition of all the right physical tools but just a flat out poor football player. As a Hurricane fan, I can say with certainty that Kaaya will never be a successful NFL QB. He was terrible during big games all throughout his career mostly because he can't do anything under any sort of pressure. If he has all day and open lanes, he is great and has a rocket arm, but any sense of pressure and he panics, makes terrible reads, throws terrible passes. It was a repeating trait in all the games I watched (probably 5-7 Canes games each year and all the big ones).

People who keep comparing this QB class to EJ Manuel have no idea how to evaluate an NFL QB prospect. Period. End of story. It is in no way, shape, or form, the same QB class. All you need to do is look at the stats and watch a few minutes of film to see that there are at least 3 QBs, probably more, in this draft who are miles ahead of where EJ was when he was drafted. Watch EJ play at FSU, he had terrible accuracy then too. It's not even close.

Please enlighten us ole wise one as to what exactly communism is. I just love people who want to argue for the sake of arguing. Look at me, look how smart I am. Here, over here, look at me. I can take a simple analogy and nitpick on it to make it wrong based on semantics. Over here, me, look, I'm right here. I'm the smartest person you know. Communism is communal sharing and ownership of all resources and property at its most basic level. The government taking over a privately held franchise turns it into communal ownership of that organization, thus the communism analogy.

Uh...government taking over private business is EXACTLY what communism is.

Or maybe because he would fall asleep during the show and was noticeably starting to lose his marbles. And Schilling's comments clearly crossed the line.

You do realize that "actual sports broadcasts" are what is making ESPN hemorrhage money, don't you? Broadcasting rights contracts have killed it ESPN, they have way overpaid and they over-saturated the market. Sports on tv used to be special, now it's every single night on 7 different channels. Should have kept it simple like the 90s: 12 am - 2am: 30 min - 1 hour shows focused on sports that are currently active - ex. baseball tonight, nhl tonight, nba tonight, etc. 2am - 12pm: SportsCenter. Record the 2am SC and replay it over and over again with pretty much all highlights of the day. Get rid of all the crap commentary, contributors and extra junk. Show me highlights, some interviews, top 10 plays, etc. 12pm - 4pm: Random recorded sports. Think world strongest man, ping pong, darts, curling, whatever. 4pm - 6pm: Various talk shows: PTI, Around the Horn, Up Close (remember when they actually did 30 min interviews with athletes). This is all the talk show crap this station needs. 6pm - 7pm: SportsCenter. Not this SC6 crap that is absolutely unwatchable. Best highlights from day before, news of the day (the business sides of sports really), and setting stage for biggest games of the night. 7pm - 11pm: Live sports (not same sport every single night...see College BB season and FB season currently - 2-3 nights per week max of same sport). Original programming (30 for 30 for example - this used to be every Tuesday and a lot of Fridays) etc. If this was the schedule again, I know I would be watching a whole lot more. Instead, I get my sports fix from MLB Network, NFL Network, live games, and the internet.

Government using an eminent domain argument to take over an entertainment business? Uh...no. That is called Communism. No way, no possible way, that would ever fly. I can't even believe someone wasted their time doing research on such a stupid idea. Taking over lands for infrastructure is quite different than taking over a billion dollar plus entertainment franchise.

Guess he wants to be able to walk in 10 years. Smart.

I am always a fan of acquiring more picks as a rule of thumb. Drafted players are cheaper than FA to fill your holes and more likely to re-sign with your team at a lower rate than a FA when their rookie deals expire. The best franchises out there fill their rosters with drafted players who contribute all throughout the roster. However, your plan just has too many variables in it to be the reason I'm trading for future picks. First, Darnold has to improve on his stellar performance this year. That is saying a lot. It is not enough for a college QB to maintain their levels of play, they have to show progression too IMO, which will be hard to do after such a great season. It's very possible he regresses this season and is not the sure fire pick some believe he is at this time. Second, you have to depend on that team you traded to not turning it around this year. It happens every year. A team that is not expected to do anything suddenly clicks and they make a run. The Panthers in 2015 come to mind off a terrible 2014. Granted, usually that jump comes with a capable QB leading the squad, but you never know who is going to do it. So, if we make that trade and the team ends up being a playoff team, where does that leave us? It is very possible that teams pick next year is worse than our 10th this year. If we are trading down I want to get multiple picks for this years draft since you know what you are getting or trading a round up for next years draft (a 3rd this year for 2nd next year) to guarantee you win value wise. Especially when dealing with first round picks, one for one (with another 2nd or 3rd thrown in) is just too risky for my liking.

I remember watching his highlights that draft year. In almost every play it seemed to me that he was cleaning up after a great play by a certain LB who was all over the field. None other than Mr. Kiko himself. Called bust immediately.

To think one of the top 5 RBs in the league has no value on the trade market, now that is foolish. He may not get a first round pick, but we would certainly get something for him.

No way. Some things trump athletic achievement.

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Yeah...and one day the sun is going to engulf the Earth so every city will lose their team I guess. Maybe it's better to just focus on the next 20, 30, 40 years, don't you think?

They already did it. I can't believe how trashy the players in those things are. I was watching a final game and the guys were running the same play on offense over and over and over again and they were running the same defense over and over and over again too. Each side running the same exact plays against each other over and over and over again. Shotgun run play up the middle and the quarter cover 2 zone that blitzes both inside CBs. Just goes to show you how trash the game really is when that tactic can get you in the finals of a tournament that paid out 10s of thousands dollars.