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None of those take away freedom of choice. Sorry the world is changing. Seems to be pretty scary for you.

They were no more savage than the Europeans. History is written by the winners and the Native Americans lost. P.S. This Disney image?

Have the Bills ever used that as an official slogan? It doesn't matter anyway because its not a derogatory term.

I think Redskins came from the savage image of the Indians/Native Americans that existed in popular culture until just a few decades ago. It's dehumanizing.

neither of those examples is what the discussion is about, but for the record Chief Wahoo needs to go too. Nobody here is complaining about Florida State. The only reasons anyone can give for not changing the highly derogatory name are tradition and some imaginary line in the sand against the "pc police" and frankly both of those reasons are pretty terrible. You don't change the name because it's not pc or any other buzzword. You don't change it because the original owners were racist or fans that support it are racist, because I don't believe either of those is true. You change the name because it's a relic from a time in our history that we have moved past. We are better than that. Or we should be. You change the name because it's the right thing to do.

Or, ya know, adults can judge each situation on a case by case basis, because slippery slope arguments are largely based on bull ****. The idea that if one team changes its horribly offensive nickname then ALL THE OTHER TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE will have to change their names too defies all logic. Just go back to these uniforms: call them the Warriors and be done with it. I'm sure the league would love to be able sell all new merchandise.

It makes me a PC disciple because I see the connotative difference between words like "viking" and "redskin"?

It's pretty awful that you prefer some stupid pointless tradition over changing the obviously offensive nickname. What slippery slope are you afraid of? That all of the offensive nicknames would be changed? What a disaster that would be!

They put the Bills on the same level as the Eagles?? :respect:

Who is bragging? I was just pointing out that a first time NFL coach from college is the OPPOSITE of the #SameOldBills. And I'm not sure how uninspiring he is when several teams were interested in him. He has an extensive NFL resume and success at a college program that put him on the radar of multiple NFL teams.

Same old Bills like all those other first time NFL coaches that they've pulled from college?

What "evidence" is there that Brandon overruled Nix and Whaley?

I agree. wha t the! !!!!

Alternate theory: Russ Brandon has been holding up the NHL lockout and only allowed a deal to be made so that he could end the much publicized coaching search at a time when nobody would talking about sports.

Obviously the Bills tried to bury this story by giving fans all of the most football centric day of the week to talk about it because they were so embarrassed by it.

Stop blaming the GM for things that fall under the duties of the GM.

Please tell me how this news today compares to winning a Super Bowl.

Who is defending Ralph Wilson? Ralph Wilson should absolutely sell the team and it's not a bad thing that he's no longer involved. What is incredibly disappointing about this news is that aside from the change at the top everything else is essentially staying the same. I don't think Buddy Nix has earned the right to stay as GM even if it just through the coaching search and the draft so he can get his QB or whatever. I would have been much happier if Doug Whaley had taken over today. I think even on the surface that would be viewed as a bigger move than this one.

Does anyone really know how involved he was in decision making in recent years? Did Ralph tell Nix to hire Gailey or not draft a QB? Did Ralph demand the switch from the 4-3 to the 3-4 and back to the 4-3?

Brian Billick and Marty Shottenheimer supposedly wanted to interview in 2010.

I have. So Russ Brandon doesn't have to get permission from Ralph Wilson. Nobody really knows how involved Ralph was in hiring Gailey or in drafting a QB or any of that in the first place. They talked a big game today about leaving no stone unturned and hiring the best guy available. In 2010 they said they could spend $10 million a year on a coach. Obviously they didn't do that.

So not being excited that the same guys are still making the decisions for the team going forward means you should stop following the team? They sold status quo as change and want people to pat them on the back. If they hire a good coach, great! I would love it, but right now it's the same cast of guys saying that they are tired of losing, but the group of guys who have been here for the losing are the best they can get. Ok. So what's new?

The Bills can swallow all the pride they want, Wade isn't going to answer the phone.

LOL