WhitewalkerInPhilly

At this point, they are just begging to be pirated

I honestly don't see us giving him another year. Father Time is adding up.

And to your point, unless I am mistaken, they only have one win against a winning team tight now. And that was the Eagles at home after the Eagles did a run of Cowboys (Eagles win), Chiefs, Bills overtime win, San Fran, Cowboys (Cowboys win). Apart from their last win, they have been beating up on bad teams and getting smacked by anyone actually who is now currently in contention for their division in December. Again, they've trounced bad teams. They are legitimately talented this year. But the idea that the NFC is a super gauntlet just doesn't hold up. The opposite in fact: it's extremely top heavy with three teams primed for runs (Eagles, Niners, Cowboys), decent playoff teams (Lions, Seahawks) and a whole lot of mediocrity in between.

Damn it, they couldn't wait another 8 days?

Remember who you're talking to here.

Yarrr avast ye, the greedy louts just be begging for scallywags to make them walk the plank. To the streams of old! Let's be honest, Collingsworth deserves to be pirated

I started listening to the Cover 1 roundup and I have to say that feel more secure that we have a shot. A lot of success this season has been Dak Prescott getting the ball out quick to his host of talented receivers while their run game has been inefficient because of a drop off by Pollard and how efficient the passing game has been. I expect we see a lot of nickel and dime, which is what we are built to do, and in chilly, windy and rainy conditions, on the road, I think the D has a chance to foul up their day.

Legally, we can't. (or at least there are some severe problems with it). Tre can't be cut until he passes a physical. Until then, he can only be released via injury settlement, which doesn't allow him to sign back with the same team until the next year (effectively). So either He passes a physical and is good to go week 1 just for us to force him to sign a new contract that we have very little leverage on He passes a physical week 1 and we just work him in knowing he's not at 100% We place him on IR and pay him anyway to do nothing and hope he can be rotated in at some capacity during the season We work an injury settlement, take $10 million in dead cap and $6 million in savings and make a roster hole that needs to be filled These are not a load of great options. We really don't get much cap space for 2024 by cutting him. More than half his money would be dead cap. Maybe we rip off the band aid, but it's cutting former Pro Bowl player or trading him on the cheap for very little immediate return without much in the pipeline. Maybe that's the best we can get, like I said there aren't really any *great* options but I am not saying he's done yet

Importantly, none of it is guaranteed. His deal with GB was ~$7M per year though backloaded as is common. I think it's quite possible to throw on 2-3 years of an extension at a similar or lesser rate and reset next year to be maybe half of that 9M

Unless I am wrong, the Bills do not get that much cap space for cutting him. From quick math, I think that the gains of even a half season injury settlement would effectively be swallowed by the looming dead cap. So, do we lose a veteran and open a hole for $10 of cap space in 2025? Or do we muddle and use him as depth in a platoon of Douglas, Benford and Elam?

I think there are decent odds that we do that. Because of the trade, Douglas' last year of his contract is entirely non-guaranteed. The Bills have excellent leverage to actually decrease his cap hit next year by signing him to an extension. I don't know if Tre is completely gone, but I think we need to accept that even if he makes it back next year he absolutely not be at 100% speed. Losing him is a real possibility and he'll be an effective #2 at least for another year.

I'm with you on that. Not only has our run game been better but it's more efficient than theirs and just going by the number it appears their D is pass defense focused. While our run D isn't anything to hang our hat on, the trio of CeeDee Lamb, Brandin Cooks and Michael Gallup is pretty potent. making it a slog works to our benefit.

I am little surprised that I have not seen as much of the X's and O's stuff this week. I don't know Dallas as well, so I am trying to think how the Bills would attack them and all I can come up with is more of the same: they are average at stopping the run but have been limiting pass plays. More James Cook and a healthy PA pass dose please. That's all I've got so far sadly.

For all of my grousing about David and being ready to move on, if the Bills got him back in a 3 year, ~$5M per year with few guarantees and high incentives I would take a nibble AND the Bills do not see a better #2 WR replacement on the market. No need to create a hole. But the Bills badly need an upgrade at WR 2 and Gabe isn't it. Given the NFL GMs tendencies to throw stupid money at WR2 contracts I suspect someone will get desperate.

Send out Quentin Morris with a baton and a love letter from Tanya Harding

That's what I see as more likely. Harty and Sherfield are definitely at the back end, and Sherfield is at the end of his deal. In my mind, that's the bar he has to cross. I'd like to see what we have. I don't think anyone on the board would oppose the idea of taking a receiver in the top 2 rounds this year but a developing 4 or 5th option (Diggs, draft or FA #2, Shakir, Shorter) doesn't seem crazy to me. Oh yeah, I expect Knox to be glued to the man's hips on most snaps

I mean I know I said we want to focus on the Bills this week, but yes, that Titans loss was huge. It is the Dolphins equivalent of our Broncos and Patriots games (ouch). The Jets aren't giving up without a fight, and they have the D to make the Dolphins wounded O-line a liability and a dinged up Hill. The Cowboys aren't an easy matchup and the Ravens play tough on D and can run on you. If the Bills don't collapse down the stretch, I see a reasonable chance of Week 18 deciding the East

I mean, I know he's not going to be the focus. But please stop me if I am wrong here: does anyone on this board want the Bills to bid on Gabe Davis over the offseason? I don't want him back unless it's at rock bottom price, and the league has a history of massively overpaying #2 WRs. With the production we've seen from Davis, unless he really catches a hot streak is it crazy to give Shorter a few snaps each game?

At this point, I am willing to try kicking the tires on anyone not Gabe Davis at WR #2

It's a good hour drive, but it's usually a clear and easy one. Let's see how the playoff push goes! And they are pretty darn good sandwiches. Even beats the Wegmans ones back in Buffalo. Though I do get cravings for the Jims Chicken Finger Subs and Stingers, because those are undefeated.

The South Jersey wing struggle is real. The best I've had were doing double fry wings at home with Anchor Bar sauce

I mean, I struggle to think where by me actually has decent wings. I have yet to make the trek to Pic-A-Lili

very long look. Like, maybe give him a fresh guaranteed contract. You know that they were talking about Mac Jones being a Hall of Famer, right? 😁

Well my last four seasons have been: COVID, child year 0, child year 1, slowly unfogging my brain 😁 But where do you recommend? If we get to the playoffs, South Jersey Mafia?

correct.