WhitewalkerInPhilly

Short answer: No. Longer answer: Don't get me wrong. I like Shakir. Over the back end of the year I think it's fair to say that he's been our most reliable WR. He has absolutely earned the chance to take a turn in the offense. But looking at his stats from 2022 and 2023 while he has absolutely come along his stats are similar or worse then Gabe Davis. People seem to forget that Davis was a hot option in 2020 and 2021. ~600 yard, 6-7 touchdowns a year, plus postseason TDs. Being the #3/4 guy on the roster can mean that you get superior matchups. Teams are less likely to focus on shutting down your tendencies. Gabe thrived when he had John Brown and Emmanuel Sanders to take heat off of him, and he all saw him struggle to be a consistent reason not to bracket Diggs. Bring in a guy who can push Diggs for the starting job or someone who can take the top off the defense. Let Shakir, Kincaid and Cook thrive underneath.

yes, because when we discuss sound practice in football management we live up to the standard of Jerry Jones. How 'bout them Cowboys?

Is that...a bad thing, necessarily considering the number of people who want him gone? But seriously, McDermott had previously been framing himself as a CEO coach. While he was a defensive coach up until this year he had handed off play calling to Frazier (so 6 years). I don't think Vrabel's previous time as a HC has such greater success than McDermott that he's being upstaged.

Their loss would be our gain. I really want Vrabel to come here. Come on Miami, back up the Brinks truck for Staley!!!

Mario Williams is probably the most talented guy from the last 20 years with Kyle following up.

I...don't know. My first reaction was "hell no". But that's my personal dislike from time with the Pats and his HC runs. But we have effectively been running a form of the Pats offense under Brady (albeit not as well) and there are rife examples of guys who are excellent coordinators who just cannot handle running a full team. After due consideration I would not hate him interviewing.

Good for him. I want Vrabel.

I'll say this for any and all "trade Diggs" conjecture: No. Not in 2024. No way, no how. Especially the "no how" part. As in, the Bills would incur a $4 million cap LOSS on top of what they would have to pay the new guy in a year where they desperately need cap space. There's a reason that player for player trades don't happen often, and it's more commonly player for picks. If the Bills hit every lever to free up space, effectively say good bye to all departing free agents (bye Floyd, Epenesa, Shaq, Dodson, Dane Jackson, DaQuan, Phillips so most of our defense) and need to hit on nearly every draft pick as an immediate starter the Bills could maybe trade Diggs for picks. What worth all that, multiple first rounders? We ain't getting that for Diggs. Diggs is a near certain lock to be on the roster in 2024. And, let's face it, likely 2025, because the Bills are so cap strapped I don't see how we field a roster anywhere as close to last year without restructuring or extending him.

Really? Because I thought overall he did a good job against the Chiefs. The running worked extremely well through the third quarter. It wasn't until the 4th when they started changing up things to stop them. The two 4th quarter stalls were the drive when the Chiefs finally adjusted, the first has the Bills in 3rd and makable when Allen gets a pass batted, and the next is where they get stuffed and Sherfield can't bring it in deep. He DOES adjust on the final drive. The Chiefs are run blitzing. Allen takes his third big deep shot that is catchable and it slides through Diggs' hands. Allen starts hitting hot routes for blitz beaters, which is one of the easier ways to attack the Chiefs now that they need to blitz to stop the run. Kincaid had three catches averaging 7 YPA and that's the kind of thing you take all day. I don't even mind the run call at the two minute warning because I was thoroughly expecting KC to call a timeout and it was to our benefit that they didn't. That Shakir and Diggs were both open on that 2nd and 9 and there were bodies available to make it a 4th and short decision on 3rd down speak more to Allen's decision making than Brady's scheming and playcalling.

I'm going to reserve judgement about how good he actually is until I see him with a full year as a OC. As I've said before, and will say again: we did not see Brady install an offense this year. What he saw him do was call better situational plays from Ken Dorsey's and introduce a few Shanahan inspired wrinkles. Dorsey's scheme in turn was heavily inspired by what Daboll had done. While I suspect that Brady will use similar verbiage that the players are familiar with, you definitely saw differences: far more run heavy that what Daboll and Dorsey did. All used motion, but Brady seemed focused on it as a way to diagnose defenses rather than the high speed attack Miami uses. So I can't really say how he is overall as an OC. Maybe he pooped the bed in his interview when asked how he would change the offense and we get blown away by another candidate. All I know is that he called a hell of a better offense since anyone since Daboll. Maybe better than Daboll.

Oh thank Christ no swiping Brady. No OC desperation hires Vrabel for Bills DC

Due respect, but what comes out of McAfee's mouth between shotgunned beers and bong rips does not bowl me over as sound advice Maybe Kliff will take a QB coach role

yeah. And yet, people are acting like I'm a lunatic for saying that's what Josh should have done.

In this hypothetical scenario? The Bills have 1st and 10 inside the 20, or a 1st and goal. The Clock runs to ~1:20 or the Chiefs burn a timeout. Now who knows from there. But Bass has 10+ yards lopped off a FG attempt. Josh has 3 more chances to gun it. But in this scenario, even if Josh throws it in the dirt three times a higher success chance for Bass and less time on the clock/KC timeouts reduces the odds of a KC kill stroke before OT. Which is better than what he happened even if Bass had made it. How is this difficult for people to understand?

All the quibbling about whether or not pocket protection, vs Josh sliding... You know what avoids all that? Throwing the ball to your wide open WR1 on a crossing route.

OK...I think this take might get me roasted but... Are you out of your mother loving mind with this take? Are you high? Tell me you got high as a kite as you wrote this so I can ask where you get your stuff. First off, calling it Allen hate? Josh Allen had overall a fantastic game. Josh Allen is not the reason the Bills lost that game. The reason the Bills lost that game is that throughout the game the defense held up as well as a wet paper bag holding a bowling ball. The Chiefs punted once in that game. Once. On the previous drive. I don't have the exact number, but I think the Chiefs had an 8-0 advantage on 20+ yard plays. AJ Klein was covering a HOF tight end. With that said, the methodology of how the Bills were moving the ball was clear. They had spent about six minutes taking what the defense gave them. The offense was clicking, with blitz beaters to Kincaid for 3 catches for 21 yards. Time was ticking. Every run or completion is 40 seconds off the clock or a Chiefs timeout. You do that twice when you're not even in the red zone yet and even if you need to kick a field goal the defense should be able to hold. If you want to credit Allen for his skills as a field marshall, then this is something fundamental that he knows. So when the choices are "quick checkdown to a wide open Stef Diggs that is almost certainly a first down and if not makes the Schnowplow a reasonable option to go for it. The worst that happens is he drops it." or "gun a dart 25 yards into the end zone" where the best case scenario is that Mahomes has 1:55 and two timeouts against said tissue paper defense? What gives you the best odds of winning the game are not even close. And it boggled my mind that people don't seem to understand this. Now, if Allen makes it I am still cheering, but I will think the exact same thing when Gabe Davis scored the go ahead in almost the same position in 2021: oh no, we gave them too much time. What on Earth makes you think that our defense would fare any better this time?

It was more to illustrate the price range. 1st round WR plz

Why can't we restructure Diggs? That a sunset of fans don't want to is not the same as can't. Miller I'll say you avoid because you have no idea about a potential suspension incoming but we can get two more years of productive play out of Diggs

My only quibble (listed above) is decent journeyman play at a lot of our D openings can be found for reasonable money before the draft. I know that because that's how we got Shaq, Daquan, Floyd, Phillips, Hyde and Poyer. I absolutely support reloading our defensive depth and priming future superstars, but we don't have the luxury to bid for those on offense. We are lucky enough to be in great position on O-line, TE, QB and RB but WR is a debilitating weakness

I know i.m rambling like a crazy person but it's insane to me that our 3rd running back coming off an ACL would be the best paid guy in the room when that's the difference between keeping Floyd or Epenesa or Daquan. Not saying they can't do some but it seems like the dumbest waste of resources

The he BETTER be taking a massive salary cut or taking phantom years on that deal

Wow. Ok. Dang, they might be a force next year

Look I stump for Safety being an underappreciated position. If a godly pick drops in our laps at 28 I would be tempted. But in 2017 the Bills went out and picked up a pair of safeties for a combined cap hit of $15 M and they anchored those spots for 7 seasons. Superb splash Defensive players you need to get in a draft. You can absolutely pick up journeyman DT3, rotational depth DE, DB depth and safety without breaking the bank so you don't NEED to hem yourselves in for a need WR2? I have a thread on this but GABE DAVIS is looking to get $13.6 M a year. You can't tell me we can afford to get into a bidding war for an upgrade. Draft WR priority #1. I don't care if you live up or back but that's the priority

I think I need to ask him who his dealer is. Because whatever he's smoking is good stuff. One, the Bills have invested draft capital on the defense. Off the top of my head, Rousseau, Dorian Williams, Elam and Bernard are all playing on rookie contracts. Oliver, TJ and Milano are homegrown players that we have retained which is a strong sign of healthy drafting and a functional front office, and I think there is a reasonable chance we retain Epenesa and Lawson (also a 1st round pick) in free agency Spector, Dane Jackson and Benford were excellent late round finds that have well outplayed their draft position and are either starters or key rotation pieces. Two, he clearly hasn't looked at the FA market for WR. You want to restock the defense? Good. I agree with you. But WR takes priority, and THEN worry about backfilling safety and D-line depth.