WhitewalkerInPhilly

I mean, the mind and snow are variables that I don't like, but even if we are breaking it down I still like our chances if it's a messy game. Josh has time this week to get used to the wind because it's happening locally (I'm not there, just relying on reports). We also know Brady is not afraid to get into Jumbo packages to run, and I do think we can run on them even in a slog.

I have been seeing wildly different reports from various sources. I assume that we will have an idea with 24 hours to go, but that variation is troubling to me moreso than the weather. If we know, we can plan

He's gone! The bad man can't hurt us anymore!

Agree on that.

It sounds like the Carroll situation is that the Seahawks want to move on, but are leery about ungraciously showing a long tenured and Super Bowl winning coach the door, so they are promoting him to "advisor"

Looks like @HappyDays source was onto something

I don't necessarily disagree, but I think that the current trend will bypass a proven track record as HC as an administrator, delegator, coach wrangler, sideline presence but who is older and is defensive minded for a younger "offensive guru", even if they are unproven or have little experience as a coordinator as long as they can scheme up pretty plays.

Mostly because we think it's more of a challenge than the Steelers.

I am not Leslie Frazier's biggest fan, but I do really get the disappointment of being repeatedly passed up. I mean, let's look at the slate of fired NFL coaches. You can't tell me that his track record is leaps and bounds worse than: Brandon Stayley - 1 year as DC with superstars Von Miller, Aaron Donald, Jaylen Ramsey and Leonard Floyd Josh McDaniels - A previously washed Belicheck discipline with a track record for screwing over teams Frank Reich - 4 year OC, one season on SB winning team (maybe the one I can say is the best) Ron Rivera - 7 straight losing seasons as a HC, 4 before Washington Arthur Smith - 2 years OC, got one good year out of Ryan Tannehill with Derrick Henry And yet I suspect he's going to be passed over

I believe the position is open, but I am sure he makes a looot of money doing offseason coaching

I couldn't watch but I was getting updates and I live a few hours north of Baltimore so we started getting what they had all game. I think the Ravens backups said "hey, we showed our stuff, this game isn't worth anything let's get out of here"

I don't think you're crazy, for the highlighted reason moreso thank Cook's fumbling. Cook got stonewalled a few times vs the Phins. Not badly, but you could see him struggling to get to a lane and those sweeps to the left of the formation just were not working. With field conditions looking potentially rough, we might need power more than finesse. I love what Cook has been doing, but I am expecting heavier sets, and more balance to Fournette suits me fine.

How strong? Because nucci just had somehting that said 20 MPH, which I can live with. Conditions like the 6-0 wind game in 2021? Issue.

The more I hear, the more this sounds like our defensive game plan is "stop the run, make Rudolph beat us through the air" lol just missed you

Honestly that forecast is gold for me. A slight slickness so their run game is a touch slower/Rudolph's timing is a bit off, and winds where Josh won't be super accurate, but should be accurate enough on intermediate throws. Of course, if things change, so does the game plan.

I mean certainly the first two and possibly the second but the degrees matter a lot. Cold? No. The Bills spanked the Patriots just fine playing in the single digits in 2021. Wind? A 25 MPH swirling wind you get in the Ralph will affect throws, but it favors Josh with a rocket arm over Rudolph. At 40? It's going to be a ground and pound. Are we talking flurries, or running in inches of snow?

Dolphins agony? I think I saw it pop on my youtube feed but I didn't have time to watch

Definitely. If he completely wets the bed and looks unprepared against a less talented but well coached and disciplined squad that has focused on limiting points then obviously he's not getting a free pass. That said, while he's mostly running Dorsey's playbook, I feel like his game plans have been mostly sound and he targeted defense's deficiencies well overall. The Cowboys game was masterful. Josh had a bad game vs a good defense with NE, but that appears to be on execution. In the Chargers and Dolphins game the offense moved the ball fine, it was just bad turnovers. The Chargers game I was fine with, Brady didn't make Harty or Cook fumble, that's a player ball security issue (and we're not benching Cook). There's not much Brady can do if Wilkinson had Josh in a bear hug and rips the ball out, and Brady had Kincaid schemed open on the 4th and 2 interception. But man, can he please stop using Gabe Davis in Red Zone situations.

In his last two games his targets have gone back up. Which, in my mind, were the obvious choices, and he was wide open on his route on that second interception. For the most part, whenever we have given him more he has risen to the occasion. I know that getting the same targets as Diggs is impressive logically, but it feel like we need more of him. I can remember twice last game when he made a play. The first is where Josh fakes a handoff (play action pass!) and zips it for 28 yards https://www.buffalobills.com/video/josh-allen-zips-28-yard-sideline-strike-to-dalton-kincaid-bills-at-dolphins The other was a Cover 0 blitz beater In both you have to go "oh yeah, that's what you use a passing tight end for" and then wonder why we haven't been seeing it. No more Gabe Davis in the red zone, give me Kincaid!

It means a defense first team is worse without it's best defensive player. It's a "no duh" thing and is in no way an assurance of victory, but it is relevant.

Agree, but the point I think some of us are making is that not many successful proven OCs are footloose and fancy free at the moment (because usually really good OCs are on playoff teams), and those who are free or are becoming available after this weekend likely going to be picked over first by the teams that just fired their HCs. There are other avenues: if there is a toxic situation under one head coach, or a fired head coach (Reich) or assistant (Brady), or a retread, or some college mind that blows you away. But because of the insane demand to get the next Shannahan or McVay you are seeing OCs get chances to run teams they are not ready for and they are snatched up way too soon. We can look, and we should, but I temper my expectations that we'll find someone who can present a better plan than someone who has actually worked and had success with the players we have right now.

Yeah no matter how to slice it, it's sad that a likely Hall of Fame player is getting healthy scratched. That said, I think we all saw that Tre White was nowhere near full speed in the middle of last season when he came back and it took until training camp this year to get the burst back. So I think it's possible that Von is back at full speed September and plays up to his contact. I'm hoping for it, because the other options are...grim.

Wait...are you telling me that whoever has the most points wins the game? Analytics is amazing these days! 😁 (Not trying to give you grief man, just making a joke)

That's pretty much where I am. I am not against letting a college coach try in principle. For instance, Daboll got his time as a playcaller at Alabama. But realistically, if they are a successful OC who isn't getting a head coaching nod why are they coming to us? Maybe there is some toxic situation, but even our options are likely Brady (who knows our players and tendencies, is already in the building), OC in contentious relationship in current position, OCs who didn't get the HC job and burned their bridges, outside assistant coaches, or college coaches. I'm not saying that the Bills should necessarily rubber stamp Brady. See what is out there. Hear some concepts. But it's hard for me to expect that we are getting much better than Brady (who previously had HC rumblings)