WhitewalkerInPhilly

Wow. I honestly did not see that coming. He was a good 6th man on the line, and the one who I expected to backup or replace Morse. This tells me Morse is staying because it's hard to expect a rookie to come in and be ready day 1. Even the blue chip top 10 OTs often take some time. Torrence was the best starting rookie we've had in years and he absolutely took his lumps, and he was projected as high as back of round 1.

I mean...yes, but not for the money that he's due. If the Broncos are in full fire sale mode and are willing to trade him for peanuts and Beane uses salary conversion and void years it's possible but at this point if they are in a fire sale mode they might just cut him.

So, the next time everyone here is talking about how Von is a bad contract I suspect he'll get a stop somewhere. There are places that are just as QB hungry as Denver, just that the amount of money he was getting was absurd in comparison to level of play. Washington, Pitt, Tenn, NE, Atlanta, Minnesota, LV, and even Seattle all need a QB and the back half of that list is way outside of the pick zone of the top candidates. Someone will take a sniff.

And like that the Chiefs are at $3M in cap space before trying Chris Jones

If he drops that far, Brian Thomas in a heartbeat. After that...I am making some calls to the teams at the top of the 2nd. Because it's looking like a glut with Franklin, McConkey, Worthy, and Adonai Mitchell. While I had had by doubts about McConkey, he was bigger, faster and stronger than Franklin even if I like Franklin's film better (from my very limited watching).

I think the comment was "do right by him" By guess is that they went to him looking for a pay cut because the $5.5 M was a lot for a player who was a gadget two years ago but if his agent dug in it's a no brainer

I am no longer so insistant upon WR in the 1st round. Granted if Thomas Jr slides fantastic you take him there, but at this moment I think there's not a terrible chance that there are 4-5 guys you rank closely as immediate #2 WR starters at the 28th pick and I can envision trading back.

I mean I doubt that we get him, but soaking up other teams cap space helps our odds of a plan B (WR2 doesn't get the long term deal they want, takes a flyer with a contender)

Pretty much. Unfortunately, there is a competitive disadvantage to releasing people early, especially cash strapped as the Bills are. Dumping new players into the marketplace right as legal tampering opens pushes greater supply into the market, meaning that there are more options for other teams to snap up.

I mean, that's something that has bipartisan support

Do you have a link to it? I'm at work so I can't listen on the radio. Agree on safety. I am not theoretically against taking a safety in the 1st round but none of the guys I've seen have moved the needle so far, and there is value to be had there in rounds 2-4. Receiver is a no duh. I think this encapsulates the situation for me. I am not saying that I was bowled away by Elam in the times that he made it to the field. He made mistakes and got beat. On the flip side, when pushed into the fire he made plays like his INT vs the Steelers. It mystified me that the team would rather grab guys off the street rather than see what their 1st round pick could do. That said, we are so incredibly thin at depth at CB that I would be mystified if we cut Douglas. I get not throwing money at an aging player, but does anyone think that he's going to command major free agent dollars on the open market?

Disagree on Bates, mostly because I can't knock the team for taking an IOL insurance policy that's cheap but it's hard to argue that McGovern and Torrence weren't upgrades

Greg Tompset at Cover One noted that the difference in the current NFLPA cap numbers was the number of Oliver and McGovern's potential base salary restructure, so I believe you are right. Honestly, I am ok with it. Oliver frankly outplayed his contract last year, and though quieter I think McGovern did too, and he can be an emergency center if necessary. I am ok with both of those. My only surprise is that I expected Dawkins, Johnson and Douglas to get deals done first, but in retrospect the restructures were probably quicker ones to bang out so Beane knows how to structure the extensions.

I mean, the motive doesn't have to be complex here. The one they are explicitly saying out loud seems plausible. Eric Washington and John Butler are older than Babbich, and were heads of their position groups longer. Going a season with no DC and then being passed over is a common reason to move elsewhere in a lot of professions. God knows I've done it.

I think the best analogy I've heard is effectively how property investors will take on debt. So long as the base income keeps growing, it is very possible to juggle debt sustainably. Sometimes your acquisitions have to slow as you pay out what is owed, or call some projects a wash and take a hit to get it off your spreadsheets. But careful management means sustainable growth and improvement. Alternately, you max out everything and pray it works out. The Saints did the latter. Oh I agree. Things were bad when Peyton left, but I hadn't realized that they had kept going.

To make the post of Brees swan song years. If they had taken a second title, I don't think they would have regretted it. The Bills might do the same with Josh.

My path did none on those things: Josh restructure: 22M Extensions for Dawkins, Taron and Rasul Douglas- ~6M in savings per by most estimates for ~18M Cut Harty- 4m Cut or pay it Hines -2-5 million Cut Siran Neal- 3 M There, even on conservative estimates that gets to my states amount without doing any of the stuff you were worried about. That means Von and Knox are cuttable or the Bills at least have leverage to redo the contract Diggs is the one I really scratch my head on that people are so terrified of. With his money he's already almost a lock for 2025 and in his worst year with us was still top 15 in receiving yards and yet it's become a personal crusade to show him the door

Jesus I can't imagine what their cap looks like when they have to pay Chase as well.

Blowhole?

Possible...but stupid. I'll take it for the Phins I'm not going to object to the Dolphins shooting themselves in the foot

It *is* Friday

Whoever did this is very much looking at numbers and not the team. Why would we deal Bates when we could paycut or release Morse who is older? Why would you restructure anything on Miller when his salary is ignored and guarantees are voided if suspended? Why on earth would we add 3 void years onto poyer when he's a legit cut candidate?

I mean we say that like a bad thing. Realistically, how often do you look at a player contract 3-4 years later and go "oh boy THAT was worth it!" I think the best one in recent memory for the Bills (fortunately) was Josh Allen's. A lot of the time players can't play up to expectations because it was nearly statistically impossible to play up to that level. Hyde and Poyer were journeymen when the came here and turned into one of the best safety tandems in the league. Morse and Beasley weren't bank breakers. Taron Johnson, Dawkins, Milano and Ed Oliver all have played up to or exceeded their contracts so far. I would include Tre White as well, if not for the injuries.

I mean, I am looking over some of the recommended cuts and it's incredibly east to shed $49M

I mean how much can you advance to Shawn Hochuli?