WhitewalkerInPhilly

Mein Gott...another tackle. Seriously, with Floyd dropping like a stone, I think Detroit may be the big winner. They trade from 3 to 12 and may get the shot at the ame guy.

Debate here. If the Jets go past 13 w/o taking a QB...which means most QB needy teams wait until round 2...do we wait?

Phenomenal deal. We get two picks, and a slight reduction in the order of our third pick and the guy goes out of the conference.. Best draft move I've seen the Bills do in years

This is great. Anyone know the details?

YES!!! St. Louis trade!!!!!!

Please trade back...please trade back...

Holy crap Cooper?!? Man, the Bills have so many picks...I have to wonder if it might be worth waiting now...

Bills on the clock. Prepare "Doom" calls...

Mingo? Wow...now Star or Floyd could slide to the Bills. Interesting.

OK, Dee Milinner is still open...so is Tavon Austin. Plenty of trade bait left.

Well...that's all three OT's...

I'm shocked. I was sure Johnson was going to go, and I'm a little surprised they moved up to get him.

Really KC? Four months wasn't long enough to make a decision, you're going to run out the clock on draft day?

Really KC? Four months wasn't long enough to make a decision, you're going to run out the clock on draft day?

Currently at my favorite bar, with a standing order to keep 'em coming.

Since it sems like no one has this going yet, lets's keep it going pick by pick.

Yeah, that seems to make sense. He really would be an upgrade, but it makes the most sense for both sides if they wait. The teams get to disguise their intentions a bit if they are gung-ho on taking a LB early, and once the draft is over Dansby gets considerably more leverage with the teams who don't fill the need.

This has pretty much been my logic in why I didn't want Barkley. Now, I'm not saying I know better than an NFL scout, but I feel caution is justified. Part of me is hoping that this has Whaley's fingerprints on it, and that he is some kind of mad genius for keeping everyone completely guessing, but I have a sneaking suspicion that people are now just making **** up.

Does anyone else feel like we're now just at Random Mass Guessing? The Bills are interested in Nassib, no now it's Barkley, but now they have Geno Smith in, but EJ Manuel felt he thought Buffalo was likely...it just never ends!

Seriously, what's with all the Lindell hate? Lindell never showed us any particular reason to consider him inaccurate. Maybe he doesn't quite have the leg to be elite, but he knows how to kick at the Ralph when things are windy. Yes, Chan didn't trust Lindell to make field goals. He also didn't trust CJ Spiller to be able to touch the ball 20 times a game, and put an inordinate amount of faith in Fitz when everyone was screaming to pound the ball up the middle to help him. Why are we suddenly putting so much faith in what Chan thought?

mrags hit the nail on the head. This is the time of year when misdirection abounds, and projecting a weakness we don't have anymore would make sense. That said, the same is true for every team that he visited.

Well, I don’t know if it counts for anything, but since we’re spinning out wheels until 36 hours from now I figured that it couldn’t hurt. Here’s the list of names that I’ll be checking off and hoping for as things progress. I should note, that I do believe that the Bills will trade down somewhere, as it seems that the picks from 1-5 all seem to have the same guys, and there seems to be a period in the upper single digits and the mid rounds of talented guys who don’t seem to be immediate needs for the people there to take them. San Fran? St. Louis? I don’t know who, but I would be shocked if all three of the elite tackles, Dee Milliner and Tavon Austin all fall within the first 7 picks. There is trade bait in there somewhere, the question is whether we can get at it and use it. 1) The last QB out of Smith, Manuel and Nassib-These are my three. I’ve seen endless debate on all of them, and not a single one of them is perfect. I’m OK with that. I do believe that any single one of them, coached correctly, could be a productive starter for the team…but I’m holding off calling any of them superstars. I think that Kevin Kolb stands a chance of beating any rookie QB here in camp this summer, but I don’t expect things to stay that way. Smith has shown the highest level of production, but has been inconsistent. Manuel has some incredible tools, but definitely needs polish. Nassib knows the offense the best and thrives in the system we’re taking on. I would be entirely happy with any of them, whether it’s at 8, 41, or some pick we’ve traded for between then. 2) Tavon Austin- But he’s not a big, strong outside receiver! Well, yes…he’s not the man who will let the Bills put Stevie in the slot. But the West Coast Offense is predicated on timing throws, slants, and a lot of yard after catch. He’s an incredible talent, and who knows…maybe someone wants him so bad that they’re willing to trade for him after he gets picked. 3) Dee Milliner- I know, another CB pick…can we slit our wrists yet? If we hadn’t had such abysmal luck at the position, and with Aaron Williams now moving to safety our #2 and #3 are McKelvin and Brooks, neither of whom have shown themselves to be rocks of consistency. Even more distressing is our situation behind them which looks…grim. We can hopefully get another gem out our depth charts, but some assurance would be nice. 4& 6) Tyler Eifert and Zach Ertz-The Bills don’t have their one starting tight end from last year, so the reasoning between the two of them is so similar that I lumped them together. Maybe Dickerson can be of some use as a passing TE, and maybe Chandler comes back at some point, and MAYBE he’s just as effective, but that is a whole lot of maybe. I don’t see this pick happening at #8, but if the Bills trade back, or one of them slips I would be content. 5&7) Kevin Mintner and Manti T’eo- I think that if there is a single remaining weak spot in the Bills front seven, it’s at the Mike linebacker. If the Bills don’t pick up Dansby, or if he’s not a good fit there, that leaves Sheppard as the weak link on the line with Lawson, Bradham and Mario. We NEED help there. I could only really see this for Minter is if the Bills trade for San Fran’s 31 and 34th picks, but we might get lucky and Teo may slide as low as 41. Remember, this is a guy who a few months ago we were worried may go top 5. 8) Tyler Wilson-You will note the absence of Matt Barkley here. Maybe I’m crazy, and I came down on the wrong side of QB debate once before (Johnson over Flutie…what was I thinking?!?) but I don’t see it. Wilson may not knock your socks on combine numbers and measurements, and had a down year, but he put up a body of work beforehand. Now, this may sound a lot like Barkley, who also has similar excuses, but Wilson lost his best receivers and head coach his senior year. He’s best comparison as a pro has been to Jim Kelly, and considering the elements that Marrone and Hackett have been trying to bring in I would be more willing to give the chance on him…if my top three are gone by the time 41 rolls around. 9) Justin Hunter- Did someone call for a tall, fast receiver who has experience with blocking? This might be the solution for who to put on the outside to help out Stevie. Comparisons to Randy Moss have been made, and there does seem to be a crop of decent WR talent for day 2.

I know, right? Title change needed: "Please Do Not Draft Nassib Barkley." There, it looked as if you had mixed up the QB's.

Good thought. I'll start at the local bar...of course, I live in Philly, but I'll gradually work my way west. Godspeed!

Please god no... Look, maybe I'm just being too pessimistic. Maybe he can play under harsh weather conditions, but I hear "Southern California" and "subpar arm" and that sends black clouds everywhere. Look, Barkley's biggest upside is that he is the most polished of all draft picks. That is honestly the best thing I've heard about him. And if the Bills pre-Kolb, I would have grudgingly looked at that attribute as a major plus. Now, we can draft someone who doesn't NEED to start. To be honest, Barkley sounds like a Kolb clone, only Kolb weathered Philadelphia, has a bigger arm and can run faster...so, someone who is like Kolb except inferior in almost every way doesn't sound like a big upside. Geno probably has the highest upside, Nassib has the advantage of knowing the system and having better physical tools and still seems to have room to grow, and Manuel is the most physically gifted. I would take ALL of these guys over Barkley.