WhitewalkerInPhilly

No, we have to give him another chance. He was ruined by Marrone. We have now summed up 90% of this board.

It's especially mystified considering that I give him an outside chance of beating McKelvin on the outside. I love Graham, but I honestly think his natural fit here is as Free Safety. And then what are our odds of going the season without a single injury to Gilmore, McKelvin or Graham. If you can't field an effective nickel, teams will tear you apart.

A little lengthy, but +1. While I'm still not crazy about the Darby pick, I agree that Graham's best spot is going to be as FS. He has great ball skills and instincts but has never been the fastest and is only going to get slower. If Darby can challenge McKelvin this year, it makes me feel much better about the secondary.

Oh thank god. I was worried about this draft, but with Kiper hating it things must have gone well.

That's my hope too. Rex seems to prioritize flexibility, and one of the more common responses to the 2 TE sets has been the Big Nickel. If we want to put our best people on the field, Graham's flexibility to play S and CB could make for a really potent secondary.

Rob Quinn's breakdown of Karlos Williams:http://billsmafia.com/2015/05/02/2015-nfl-draft-breaking-down-buffalo-bills-rb-karlos-williams/ I hadn't seen this posted yet. Honestly, I'm really impressed. I love me some Freddy, but I don't see him getting signed back after this year, and unless Brown has one hell of a camp,I think Rex is inclined to cut him (sadly IMHO). He's obviously raw, considering that he's had only two years as RB, but for a power back, he has some incredible speed and one-cut ability.

Nice! I remember hearing good things about him. I'm surprised he dropped. I've seen him mocked to us in the fifth.

See! That's why you don't deal a first round pick whaley! [/sarcasm]

Don't get me wrong. I want to build a monster O-line. I absolutely wish we had gotten someone besides Incognito in free agency. I would have greatly improved Tre Jackson, Laken Tomlinson, AJ Cann to La'el Collins. But when you've pissed away those opportunities, getting what should be depth and getting average guard play helps, and since he fits the scheme at this point I'm for it. Quick question, where did that Lou Potty guy get taken?

Love the pick, enough that it washes the bad taste out of my mouth from Darby. I'll take a solid, ready to play guard who can step in Day 1 over another long term project with high upside.

Honestly I was shocked at the pick. I still am, a little. I definitely saw bigger holes elsewhere. But because we got Miller I'm less worried about the O-line. As other people have pointed out, McKelvin in aging and has only one year left on his contact. Gilmore's option keeps him another year after this, but we saw the money the Eagles were willing to splurge on Boykin, who isn't as good as Gilmore IMHO. Graham, at this point in his career, is probably best as a tweener DB. I honestly think that you make a point of putting your best 11 guys on the field. And Heavy Nickel formations are one of the few ways to deal with the spread option/shotgun handoffs you see in the Chip Kelly imitators. How does this sound: DL- Hughes, Dareus, Kyle, Mario LB- Brown, Bradham S- Duke (Box S), Aaron, Graham CB- Gilmore, McKelvin/Darby Sounds scary good to me.

I'm not 100% on Duke, but there are far larger problems looming.

I agree that Maxx is likely gone before we get him. But I do think you can get at least one decent starter on O-line in the third. Plus a good TE can help you block, which is why I personally would like to see Walford. I was looking at some Pistol formation diagrams, and they usually call for a Y-receiver. Clay is probably top 5 as an H-back and this could cause some truly terrifying combinations if EJ or Tyrod win the job because of their mobility.

1) If he gets anywhere close to 50 I wouldn't think twice about giving up our 5th for him. 2) Might make Walford an option at 50.

I'd be ok with Golden in the 5th.

I'll paraphrase what's in my signature: If Sammy is a vital contributor who sends us to the playoffs and beyond, then yes. If not, and missing out on a starting OL player that Roman is likely going to need dooms us then no.

"Don't do it Doug! Whatever you do, don't take a QB at 50 or higher." There, talk done.

Was that the time they ran it up the middle on 1st and 2nd down?

As long as you call a deep pass once in a while. Right Doug? *cough *

I'm not shocked with hearing Rex rave about Goodwin. I remember Goodwin working Cromartie a few years ago, forcing him to play off and nuking his way to 6-8 yard gains. Cromartie then played press...and Goodwin just outran him for a deep TD.

I thought he drafted to be more of a third down specialist pass rusher? Hey, I'm not complaining. It's one more body they have to draft. They have a decent WR group now, but I take solace at their lack of LB and CB other than Grimes.

Well, it wasn't as if he was a major impact player last year and their D-line is good enough anyway. But it's nice to see someone else bust on a Maybin like pick.

I hope you're right. If everyone seems at least decent I'd much rather see our resources sunk into the O-line to help whoever is behind center.

If it happens any earlier than our third round pick I may scream.

I would have said so as well. That said, I would have sent a 1st for Foles a year ago, maybe a second now. Kelly traded Foles AND a 2nd for Bradford. Even looking at his best, Bradford has been only marginally better than EJ. I would still take him, but for a first... I personally think Kelly got rooked. We'll see.