WhitewalkerInPhilly

Can they confirm or deny that Von Miller was on the field last year?

It's getting extremely difficult for me to not hype Coleman. My pre-training camp standard was cleaning up enough to be used situationally in the red zone and gradually spool out for a greater role but he has been consistent in holding his own vs the teams best outside corners. I think Kincaid starts as the primary downfield threat but if Coleman keeps it up it might be forcing teams to pick their poison.

I'm not *eager* to, but if 2024 is a catastrophe or he gets outplayed the team has options

They are pretty close to. Before this they were 44 million over the cap and Hill was one of the few players they could release. I assume this brings them down and if they leverage the Waddle and Tue to maximum they can probably squeak under but only just. They brought on a bunch of FA defenders this year and one year into a contract does not give you a lot. They are likely going to break even and have the draft so they really are putting all their eggs in few baskets Beane took some bitter medicine this offseason but the result is that they look the be under the cap with a few very easy moves to make space: Allen restructure or new contract, likely a Von Miller cut and if our 2024 rookies work out DaQuan, Edwards and Rapp are expendable.

I mean with the way the secondary is banged up I would not be upset if they roll him over to safety. They need a more center fielder type and it might hide the grabbies I mean people freaked out over the 58 but yeah

Ducking autocorrect But oh man, Conehead is my childhood. I still hear him after not going to a Bison's game in over a decade. "The Comehead guarantee You get a warm beer from me You drink it for free"

I know I'm a broken record on this, but my growing hype on Coleman is not the circus catches and physicality. We knew he had that. It's that he's refined his route running and that can be used with the other two to get that extra bit of separation. And once the ball is in his hands he has the field vision of a kick returner and is a physical runner. Look out. I mean not quite. I don't think anyone will have that level of play calling at the line. But what I see is personnel that has enough crossover that you could put Samuel in the backfield with Cook and run 12. Or bring Coleman into the slot to act as TE in to run 21 or 22. And even then staying at 11 personnel they are heavy enough with condensed formations to run efficiently. Brady can really pull out tools vs an opponents weaknesses

This has been what I've been envisioning as our base this off-season. It can attack teams so many ways. I've wanted to give him some more lead last year. Now, the Bills had some great depth in front of him but it's heartening to see the leap. I don't have any hard numbers, but seriously guys, what's our odds that we go a full season without Douglas or Benford missing a game?

Just saw the helmet design YES PLEASE

I've said something to this effect. It all I was hearing was "Watch Coleman make this catch" it's been a steady drumbeat that he is holding his own with vets, that's he's been working on footwork and defense recognition, and constant examples of superior body control on catches. At this point I honestly don't think it's crazy to say he's made a case to be included Week 1 (at the very least) in Red Zone packages. It's hard not to love the guy

Respectfully, no. I'm usually not against that idea. Hell, I was even thinking that with Tre White's contract Beane might want to try moving him over. But right now Douglas is CB1. And he's been doing well as CB1. Why are we messing with what works? If anything, I'd roll Elam over. That might hide some of his grabbies. Of course the Easy Button is Justin Simmons.

Look, if there was an option for a straight up, no salary implication swap of the back end of the current WR group fighting for a spot and a 2020 Stephon Diggs I'd be an idiot not to take it. But they're not scrubs. A talented WR will be left off the final roster. I might wish it was more top heavy but it's something. (Coleman is looking like a stud though)

Not signing Justin Simmons to a Floyd like deal is becoming mystifying to me. DB might be the thinnest group on the roster and we are bringing in washouts. I can only imagine Simmons has an idea what he's worth that the Bills don't.

That's where I am. It's not that we are seeing highlight reels of plays. Every team is doing those for hype. But, as you say, it's that the plays are happening while installing or expanding concepts that should pay dividends and players being ready or on schedule gives me hope that the offense will, at minimum, continue off roughly where it was at the end of 2023. Defense? Yeah... I like our young depth for the most part. Bernard was a sensation and Dorian Williams looked decent in limited snaps. Bishop is at least in rotation at safety and Carter is holding his own. Elam seems to be benefitting from a different position coach and is looking closer to what we hoped he could be. But there's going to be a jump. Considering McDermott managed to shoestring a half decent unit out of a MASH ward I think they can get by for a time but the young guys are going to get their lumps.

With Claypool I think the issue is injuries and not that many spots open. Locks Shakir Samuel Coleman I assume 6 WR considering the need to carry TE and RB That's three spots for : Hollins Shavers Shorter Hamler Claypool MVS IIRC Hollins, Shorter and Shavers are ST candidates. It's hard to imagine that you'd have to impress to get in as a pure WR unless you are a cut above the others. Claypool is injured but MVS vanishing is not what I expected

I don't know about training camp but I won't be shocked if it's for a playoff push

Honestly the rookies getting their shot sounds like the plan And I completely agree that play action rollouts seem like one of the most obvious plays to use. You have a run game to sell the play action and a QB who is a run threat. Force the 2nd level guy to choose coverage or cutting off Josh's lane

For me it's more gleaning details. It's not that Coleman is constantly doing circus catches (though he is) it's also some of the reports I've heard about working on zone recognition and his footwork. He knew he had great body control, but those were areas of concern for me

I'll be honest, my faith in the offense took some brutalizing from the end of the season through the draft. Not only has the receiving depth proven insufficient, even if Gabe Davis hadn't given you enough consistent production to be a reliable #2 WR losing him was another hole to plug. Curtis Samuel was nice but I thought the Bills could use one more guy to stretch the field...and then what seemed impossible happened: Diggs was traded. Even if his production had fallen off he was still in the top half of WR 1 and the cupboard was bare. Come draft day I watched Brian Thomas Jr. drop only to be snatched by the Jags and the Bills to trade out of the first round for one of the few prospects I thought the Bills should skip. I hated the Coleman pick in the moment and I felt a pit in my stomach. So the Bills picked up a few bargain bin WRs who cares? The Bills were going into a season with an interim OC made official with less receiving talent and the loss of Morse on the Oline. So I thought at the time. But it's been a long three months and, bit by bit, I saw signs of life. Some of Coleman's analytics were contextualized. Breakdowns of some of Brady's trends showed ways he was already attacking his deficiencies. Claypool and MVS were surprised names to pick up dirt cheap. And now in camp? Brady has leaned into new concepts of motion and condensed formations. Coleman is showing the difference between straight line and game speed and is progressing along a best case scenario ramp up. There are signs of life from the back end of the WR depth to the point it's a real competition. Shakir and Samuel look great. The offensive line doesn't seem to have missed a beat. If anything Josh is looking more comfortable spreading the ball around instead of forcing it and enjoys being able to throw a little higher for big bodied guys. Kincaid looks ready to be an offensive focal point. Is it early? Yes. I don't think anyone will really know until a few weeks in but so far I'm having more faith than I did in 22 or 23.

I mostly agree. I want to see how things look with people in pads but the first few practices have gone better than I hoped. It looks like the extra time with Josh worked.

They are already ~$44 million over so they will almost assuredly need to. Now, I'm aware that Beane managed wizardry to get the Bills under the cap and make some acquisitions of their own. But next year the Phins have one player who they'd free more than $5 M by cutting and that's Hill. I'm sure they can do it, but they signed a *bunch* of defensive free agents this year. Beane made hard cuts and the Phins kicked it down the road one more year and now they are locked on Tua.

Just a quick bit of math: Expected 2025 salary cap: $260 million Current expected cap hits Tua: $ 51 million Tyreek Hill: $34 million Jaylen Ramsey: $24 million. Waddle: $20 million That's approximately half their cap tied up on four players

I remember the points of The Drought where giving up multiple 1st round picks for Sam Bradford was seriously discussed on this board. I am aware of what desperation does when it has been so long and you look stacked everywhere but QB That said this is hilarious and I am eating it up with a spoon

I think it's safe to say that the Bills envision using Curtis Samuel the way the Niners use Deebo

I know Tua is better than we give him credit for but that is a lot of money for someone who has never won a playoff game. With even back loading the deal with a restructure this year puts a conservative $60 million cap hit for 2025. That's close to a quarter of the cap on three players