WhitewalkerInPhilly

Probably to talk about a plea. If they make an offer to some thing minor, maybe plead it down to Disorderly Conduct, a class three misdemeanor with minimal sentence, it let's Shady move on and save a bundle on legal fees and the DA gets a pound of flesh.

From what I've heard from bouncers, it doesn't matter. Once fights start to break out they can shut down an evening, and they usually don't spend much time differentiating.

Here's the part I found most interesting:

To be fair, Shady is not a shiny beacon of model behavior. There's been a pattern of being a little, well, Shady: lousy tipping, an incident with a woman on a party bus, and forays at being a raconteur (the females only party). But there is a bit of a difference between "kind of a douche" and "repeat criminal offender".

Definitely not for the kind of money he got.

He's referring to the Shady "Ladies only" party which people slammed him over last offseason. I've seen people use that to try to justify Shady's apparent guilt.

I think this is the real reason for the holdup. Shady almost assuredly threw a punch, but it sounds like the further we go, the further we get into "he said she said". With a high profile case I'm not at all shocked that the DA is taking his time.

"Tank" is a nickname for Hollis Thomas, who's been a contributor for Philly sports station 94.1, WIP for at least as long as I can remember since I moved out here about four years ago. Since then, he's been moved up to a full time part on the Josh Innes show, which is their powerhouse 2-6 home commute block. He has a rep, albeit a joking one, of being a fine conniseur of Philly nightlife, bars and strip clubs, so when the bar fight went dowm, it seemed that he started reaching out to friends and aquaintances to see if they knew what happened. Again, this is far from solid witnesses in court, but hopefully this is the context you were looking for.

To be fair, I waa listening to the program yesterday on my drive home they took a moment to talk about it. Thomas got multiple clubgoers, from different groups who said the same story. I'm pro-Shady, but it's a bad look. Still different from the DA thinking he has multiple reliable witnesses. And even so, it's still the misdemeanor assault we thought more likely.

Unless they're a QB.

Plead guilty without allocution and without admission of guilt, so Goodell has little to hang on him. Probation and a fine.

The cops pressed charges because two of their boys in blue got the worse end of it. From a political standpoint, there's no way they just let it go. The union would be calling for the chief's head and the mayor got to score some of the easiest political points of his career. Then then get to hand it off the the DA, say "good luck" and know that whatever outcome they get the glory if it suceeds and someone to blame if it doesn't. The DA, on the other hand, is not quite so lucky. And if after two weeks, no reliable witnesses are willing to come forward they'll either drop it or offer a shockingly reasonable plea.

Personally I doubt it, because if that happened, the off duty cops would not even get close to trying to press charges. At four bottles of champagne, with the way I hear the club prices it, that pushes it into Grand Larceny territory.Maybe they could file a charge, but it would screw them over harder.

Really apples and oranges. No one outside the team and fans give two sh*ts about a player being irresponsible in travel arrangements on coming back from his days off. Anything McCoy says to the public right now is evidence that could be used against him in a court of law.

And Shady's decision to change lawyers makes a ton of sense now.

Not a shock. It was brutal to watch Manning in the playoffs, and with the HGH and sexual harassment accusations looming this is the jumping off point.

I'll put it this way: 3-4 million is less than what Sammy cost his first year. Also, the way that veteran contracts are done typically have steadily increasing value. For example, Lawson's contract was $4M/year, but his cap hit season 1 waa $2.4. Also, Carpenter (master of missed PAT) and Urbik, our backup RG, each are coming in with cap savings of $1.75M. Considering all of the other holes (LB, RT, WR, S maybe) if we can plug in a decent vet to solidify the Dline, I'm for it. We can fill in backup G and K with third day picks or waver wire pickups.

There is not enough plusses I can put on this. That's exactly how I see this playing out. I don't care what they arraign him on, I highly doubt that there are zero irregularities in the official statement. A good lawyer should be able to cream the aggravated assault and assaulting a police officer charges. I've read up on the aggravated assault statute for PA, and the cop provision only applies if the officer is operating in a professional capacity. Unless someone puts a bottle in Shady's hand, there is no "deadly weapon". Shady might beat the whole thing, but that means smearing cops and missing all of 2016. And then he has to deal with a suspension from the league. His contract is worth more in 2017 so missing time this year cost less than next. Simple Assault in PA is a 2nd degree misdemeanor. For a first time offender I can see a fine, probation and/or suspended sentence for a fraction of the legal fees of a full trial. He'd get a suspension and come in with fresh legs.

That's why I said it would be drastic. I personally would prefer to just take the hit and carry as much cap space as possible, but if we need a few extra mill to get Incognito and Glenn back I have no issue with a partial conversion.

Basically, cutting Urbik and redoing Gilmore's contract to Bryan Maxwell money (who was absolutely overpaid), gets us under the cap. And that's even before we get into anything drastic like cutting Mario or converting some of Clay's roster bonus to a signing bonus.

Well, the off duty officers claim that they were working off four bottles of champagne. At 2:45, when last call is around 2. So yeah, solid bet.

Believe me, some Philly fans see it that way too. But seriously, if you believe that at 2:45 am, in a club, with three people on 4 bottles of champagne were absolutely minding their own business when a guy came up, robbed them of a champagne bottle, at which time they calmly and measuredly asked for its return and in no way making the other party believe violence was imminent, and then we're suddenly beset upon... Well, I'm here to offer you a real estate chance of a lifetime. A Nigerian prince has just willed me the Walt Whitman bridge, but due to tax reasons I am unable to keep ownership. I would happily sell it under the table for a discreet cash payment.

LB, DL and WR so far. Assuming that we keep Glenn and Incognito, I can see giving the O line one more year to gel, and even if we lose Shady for some games Karlos and Gillisfree should be able to hold down the fort until he gets back. But Bradham didn't look that good and we can't and should not outbid for him. Brown struggled last year too, so LB is likely at least one aquisition, if not two. I don't see the team keeping Mario after the comments he's made and how cap strapped they are. Even if they are moving Hughes to the 9 tech DE/JLB/LEO, they either need a true nose tackle, or a 2 gap 3-4 DE immediately, and likely KW's replacement within a year or two. WR, because Sammy really needs someone across the sideline to prevent those double teams and unless they bring Harvin back dirt cheap Woods is not cutting it.

Dang, I'll have to listen when I get home from work. Any highlights on how they plan to develop Tyrod?

I loved the game. I like defensive grinders. To me, the idea that a game can't be exciting unless two team put up 60+ points is at least partially responsible for the general decrease in overall quality play. I kept hearing about how mediocre 75% of the league looks. This is what we reap. It's cause and effect. Fans say they want more points, so the league adds protections to QBS and WRs and agressively calls DPI and roughing the passer. Points go up, and people have to win shoot outs. QB play is the biggest factor in shoot outs. As a result teams scramble to get the best QB possible and neglect other positions. Players are massively overdrafted in the hopes they'll be the franchise savior. Average QB'S get massive amounts of money thrown at them. That is how Ryan Tannehill gets $19.25 million a year. That is how Ryan Fitzpatrick and Sam Bradford become the hottest names in free agency.