WhitewalkerInPhilly

Well he's not coming here! Not anymore. I honestly think it's to Denver. With their D and competent QB play they should be a powerhouse.

Yeah he is going to hit the roof. I still want to see how they did it. If they committed to three years on him to free up cap space I will be a little nervous. If it makes cutting or trading him next year easier, Whaley is a genius.

Damn. I guess we have to get one I'm the draft

We should probably merge the threads... But anyway, this is huge news one way or the other! I will reserve judgement until I see the actual numbers.

Ooof. On one hand, I wanted him. On the other, $9 mill a year is a loooooot of money for a RT.

I happen to agree with you. The Bills offense certainly has its flaws, but I truly believe that the defense cost us dearly. I still cringe thinking about that Miami game as Adayji just gashed us and ran through broken tackle after broken tackle.

Felton is a FA. Juice looks like he can fill that role and be more of a H-back as well.

I agree. Of course, to play devil's advocate, if you want to start a rookie, the best thing you can do is make sure the OL is rock solid and you have a strong running game. I like the moves I've heard about so far today. I have heard zilch about the O-line in the draft. I don't think I've seen a single mock with a tackle in the top 10. I'm ok with dropping some money to lock up RT.

It was pointed out to me in 2015 that when you looked at Bradford's career stats at that point and Fitz's stats they were virtually identical. At the time Bradford was coming off his best season up to that point. It has nothing to do with Mahomes, other than noting that nothing is a sure thing.

Well, good for the Giants. I'm actually a little surprised, it's setting the bar on salary low for probably the most proven guy to hit FA.

I love it. Felton was great blocking last season once we brought him back, but he couldn't catch fire if he was doused in gasoline. Dennison uses a lot of fullback play and he's a more versatile option to use in the short passing game.

If we are dead set on cutting Tyrod, Foles isn't the worst choice. I honestly think he's Tyrod lite: not as mobile, good accuracy on short throws, can stretch the field with deep bombs but has trouble throwing intermediate over the middle and doesn't turn the ball over a ton. If you want a vet backup, or you need a rookie QB to ride the bench for a year, I don't think he's the worst. But by no means is he a step up from Tyrod.

Dude, plenty of people use Buffalo Rumblings. I dislike his relying upon pay cuts and extensions to get cap space. I would prefer that we knuckle down and go crazy spending next year. Really I think we have to really stock up on UDFA's. Maybe we find one or two diamonds in the rough.

Chris Trapasso did a nice write up of it here: http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/1/20/14331974/rick-dennison-buffalo-bills-offensive-coordinator-tyrod-taylor-all-22 Highlights include Purely zone blocking as opposed to Roman's hybrid system and very little pulling A lot of stretch plays and fullback blocking A lot of bootleg plays plenty of trips formations focus on short passes with high YAC (ideally with Sammy and Shady) Honestly, I think Tyrod is well suited to the offense. I keep hearing things like "oh, he doesn't meet my eye test" and he certainly has flaws, but short passes have never been the problem, it's the intermediate ones he tends to leave on the table.

Look, I love Christie. There may never be a better kicker in my lifetime. But at the end of the day, Carp was getting a decent amount of money for the position he was in. And two years ago I cheered that deal. But that was before the XP changes, and that happened to be in his danger zone. He really regressed the last two years. In 2014 he was clutch. In 2016, he choked in the biggest moments. The Seahawks and Phins came come to mind immediately but there were a lot of missed kicks. Maybe the Bills could have gotten a way to work him through the funk, but for the cap space he was getting, we can get a 6th round pick and let the coaches work on that guy.

Yeah. He was rough in the Seahawks game and that was heartbreaking to lose. But other than that he did a good job. Having a capable backup guard/center is worth the tender.

Yes. I would go into it more, but I have a feeling this is going into PPP turf.

You know I've been seeing that around a lot and I don't get it. I mean, it's not the best journalism in the world (BBC, NPR & WSJ are some of the most universally trusted) but apart from a slight conservative bias they seemed balanced. Yet lately I've heard them described as of they were a homeless guy on the corner shreiking about our new lizard overlords. What gives?

Not for a third. I would want a sweetener if it was the 33rd pick, but might ultimately take it. A third is way too little. We should only take it if they have decided for sure to draft a QB at 10.

Seriously, from what I am have seen you are cool. We have (and allow) plenty of hot takes and conjecture, but analysis and perspective is valued. I am pretty sure that 3rd and 12 are in lockstep on this one buddy.

Honestly? I would do that deal in a heartbeat. And I like Tyrod, I really do. But in a draft where I think we could load up, and also have long term rights on one of the best WRs in the game?

AAAAAMMMEEEEEEEN BROTHER

Well, if you are talking about a loose definition... Look, we will gain few enemies saying that the current organization is incompetent until they actually win anything. That is half of the naysayers on the board. Dude, just give us something a bit different.

Oh, we still have our lingering jokes. "F5" for the number of times we were hitting it to get an update. And "ground up and in the freezer" for reasons I am now not sure of. I believe it was how most of us kept our coffee. How the most depraved of us kept the loves of our lives.

Ok. Cool. There is a possibility that we are in a merger backlash. Please, in a measured, reasoned tone (with sources preferred) list your problems with GM Doug Whaley. I will provide a possible starter pack of topics: -The EJ Manuel pick (though the trade down did give us Kiko and through that Shady) -Kujo-A 2nd round pick who has barely made it to the field, a swing tackle -The trade up for Sammy when OBJ could have been obtainable had we stayed put -The nature of the extension of Tyrod Taylor, and whether spending more in 2016 to have him long term was worth controlling him in 2017 if this seems like a pre-formed list, it's because we have already gone on about it. But if you have unique and interesting insight about more on these topics, or other things Doug Whaley has done I would be excited to hear it.